[Closed] How Fat is Loveable?

I built a 29er wheelset for my B+. It's not been used yet.

I've already posted this elsewhere today

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I originally came across it when in IT but I think it has quite a relevance for MTB too - especially fatbikes.

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Won't somebody please think about the quokkas?

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The length of time that graph represents seems to be little more than a season of riding now. *sighs*

FFS flashy, that will be the image I have in my head whenever I see your name crop up

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After falling out of love with 26x4.8" width I now find my B+ 3" rear 3.25 front could do with a diet.

That's because we've had a crap winter. Too warm and dry. 🙂

Cute and adorable, Tom? Awwwwww, shucks!

how-fat-is-loveable?

give or take a pound or two...
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I guess we're all on a journey, but we're not all going in the same direction.

While I'm wondering whether plus is different enough to be worth the effort and considering going fully-fat, you're wondering whether it is too fat.

I guess we could count both as evidence that plus is another pointless compromise; not fat enough to actually allow you to do anything you couldn't do on a normal tyre, but just fat enough to slow you down and require new stuff.

In truth, of course, there is no right size (diameter or width) for a mountain bike wheel. The terrain over which we ride and our reasons for doing so are far too variable for one size to fit all. So, there is an argument for just picking one and getting on with it although, I'd also argue that, if you are going to pick more than one then make them as different as possible.

Personally I've really been enjoying riding 29+ on a Genesis Longitude - it was the perfect single-speed companion for the puffer as far as I'm concerned, the plus size has enough give to make big xc days out comfortable and fun, if I'm doing "enduro" type riding I'll take the hardtail or the full suss along. The full fat has been relegated to limited riding - it stays at my in-laws, so I don't need to worry about taking something when I go.
There are compromises with all of them, if it gets really sloppy mud the thinner the tyre the better, allowing it to cut through and riding with lots of big rocky hits fast and flat out I found that riding full fat/plus (both rigid) was just too punishing, having the fork on a standard 29er allowed for more control, speed and giggles that way, but for small bumps and mile munching the plus size certainly doesn't slow you down - in fact I think it's faster and more fun through keeping you on your toes. Had a great day out in the Cairngorms with trail_rat of this parish back in November who will attest to just how fast you can go laden with an extra 25lbs of gear.

I knew this would be tricky

Personally I've really been enjoying riding 29+ on a Genesis Longitude - it was the perfect single-speed companion for the puffer as far as I'm concerned

Ahh, you were the guy on the singlespeed Longitude, I did speak to you briefly. I was the guy on the 1x10 Longitude, camped at the top of the hill.

Anyway back on topic, I agree the 29+ is the best all rounder, I've been riding my 4" fat bike a lot more recently, it is more fun but the Longitude is faster on 3" tyres.

After five year of mainly fatbikes I've also given up with them.
I'm finding the whole B+ thing brings all of the good bit's of fatbikes and leaves behind all the not so good bits. 2.8/3.00 BTW.

After five year of mainly fatbikes I've also given up with them.
I'm finding the whole plus thing brings all of the good bit's of fatbikes and leaves behind all the not so good bits. 2.8/3.00 BTW.

Obviously you've got a lot of experience and know what works for you, but I always find these "all the benefits" claims a bit hard to understand. It sounds as though you are saying that a 2.8" tyre is significantly different to a 2.4" one (enough to give real benefits) but a 4.8" tyre doesn't give any benefits over a 2.8" one!

Either way, I'd be interested to hear more about why you've given up on full-fat, as I'm considering heading the other way (replacing my plus-sized bike with a "proper" fatbike).

I'm not "giving up" on the fatbike. It has a couple of specific roles at which it excels. The Plus bike will be the better compromise for most riding though.

you are saying that a 2.8" tyre is significantly different to a 2.4" one

It sounds as though you are saying that a 2.8" tyre is significantly different to a 2.4" one

but a 4.8" tyre doesn't give any benefits over a 2.8" one!

For [b]me[/b] the B+ gives the right ballance.
When I've spent as long on B+ as I did on fat I may think differently.
That's the great thing about bikes, so many different types of bikes to try and you learn new stuff all the time.

For me the B+ gives the right ballance.
When I've spent as long on B+ as I did on fat I may think differently.
That's the great thing about bikes, so many different types of bikes to try and you learn new stuff all the time.

Can't argue with that. To be honest, on a hardtail, 3" might be the best option for me too. But having ridden one for a few months I'm now intrigued to see what 4" or even 5" feels like. It's all just a bit of fun though.

After five year of mainly fatbikes I've also given up with them.
I'm finding the whole B+ thing brings all of the good bit's of fatbikes and leaves behind all the not so good bits. 2.8/3.00 BTW.

Finally someone's on the same wavelength

FFS flashy, that will be the image I have in my head whenever I see your name crop up

After 3 summers on a pair of 29+ Krampus wheels on a Pugsley i splashed out on two 29+ frames last year instead of a new bike and sold my two regualr 29ers and a cross bike, i now ride two 29+ regular BB bikes, a Krampus and an ECR,
Krampus is the usual 1x10 with a optional fox fork i can fit,
ECR has the Jones bars and Alfine hub and my camping rig,
Still got the KramPug wheels for the Pugsley also!, it`s the winter bike as loads of tyre clearance and plenty patina 🙂
Sold on 29+ away from the proper beach

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😆 @ Pinky!

FWIW, I had a couple of days on a 6Fattie recently and would echo the floaty fun comments above.

Tried B+, not for me. I missed the OD of a 29er wheel and don't like the vague feeling from the tyres when riding hard. Much happier on big (2.4 ish) 29er rubber with tougher sidewall (Spec Grid, Conti Protection etc) and c.30mm inner width rims. Works for me and the riding I want to do. If I still had my long gone Swift I could see B+ being perfect for that bike given the extra cushion from the tyres for comfort and general pootling riding I used it for.

Full Fat for the beach, 27.5 x 3 for almost anything else.