[Closed] HELP - WHICH STEEL HARDTAIL? SHOW ME!

No pic, but in that budget I'd go for an On One 456..... just over £200 direct from On One and as the name suggests it's designed for a 4", 5" or 6" fork. Never known a person that didn't like the ride

I'm sure there will be plenty of folk on here with PA'a and 456's and they seem to love them. I do like the look of the NS society, probably a bit over built for XC, but I don't recall there being that much climbing around cannock, and it looks like it will take some hammer.

ive just bought a 456 to build and its lovely looks much better than the price tag suggests. Ive not finished building but will post a pic when i do. Ride wise i used to have an inbred i was very happy with so im hoping for much the same 🙂

DMR Trailstar sounds perfect for what your after. Its a bit more jump orientated than some of those listed so you might get on with it better after coming from a bmx background. It has a shorter top tube and shorter chainstays than the PA or the 456

2006 17.5" Rocky Mountain Blizzard frame (Reynolds 853 disc specific frame with rack mounts) and salsa seat clamp. Immaculate condition £300

Pics available e-mail robin.stones@tesco.net

2nd hand Cove Handjob!

Thanks, my concern is that I dont want to make the mistake of geting something that feels XC and head down. I like going fast but I like a relaxed riding position, I want somethng that is fun that can be thrown around but I can rip through the trail centers/singletrack.

Anybody have an NS Society? Is it XC or is it more relaxed?

P.S Any pics?

Prince albert or alpine, no PA great all round bikes. Or 456

Orange P7. Thread closed :-p

cotic bfe

[img] [/img]

[img] [/img]
MKI though, you'll only get the best version 2nd hand 😉

The version that seems plenty good enough to me 🙄 :

[img] [/img]

and red is faster.FACT 😉

Thanks, my concern is that I dont want to make the mistake of geting something that feels XC and head down. I like going fast but I like a relaxed riding position, I want somethng that is fun that can be thrown around but I can rip through the trail centers/singletrack.

You'll love the new steel model that I'll have coming for my new brand, but it's not here for couple of months yet.

Geometry the same as our Ragley Ti model. http://www.shedfire.com/tag/ragley/

ns society is more jumpy/hardcore than xc based-here is mine(since this pic I have added pikes as-well):

[img] [/img]

Yes - those NS's are very nice bits of kit.

ther's a P.A. frame for sale in the classifieds

NS society is vey nice to ride - got one about a month ago.... Feels quite a lot like an XC bike when I wind the pikes down to 100ish mm, and much more jumpy when they're at 140mm. I currently have a 90mm stem on there which might be why if feels like an XC bike up the hills. Only problem I've found with mine is that there's not a huge amount of tyre room in the back. I think you could fit a 2.4" in there, but nothing much bigger. I would put a picture up, but photobucket is being silly at the moment.

Got it working - mine is the large size, and looks something like this:

[IMG] [/IMG]

Built up with a fairly robust setup - singletrack rims, LX cranks with single 33t ring, Pike SL u-turn forks, LX brakes, Sunline 711mm wide bars etc. Excellent bike so far...

I just love mine -doesn't meet all your criteria, but a brilliant all round bike. Second choice would've been Cove Handjob.

[img] [/img]

[url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/transition-bikes-transam-review-2009.html ]Don't know how much this is but it looks great - Transition TransAm[/url] Or the DMR trailstar?

Love those Trans Ams - beautiful looking bikes.

with a bit of downhill and jumping

Rocky Mountain Blizzard frame (Reynolds 853 disc specific frame with rack mounts)

i don't think that's a match made in heaven.

other frames to consider are the dialled alpine and transition trans-am.
the trans am is a bit heavier and more expensive then the alpine. both nice looking frames that would suit what you want to do, not just overbuilt xc frames

you wont go wrong with a PA

[img] [/img]

Built this up yesterday and more than happy. Came down to a PA or P7 Pro, preferred my own (non Fox) build and, ironically, the orange colour

groundskeeperwilly - loving the look of that NS would like to see pic's with pikes.

Has anybody ridden that Decade Virtue from kenisis yet?

agentdagnamit - gotta say thats a hot bike, whats the frame size? I'm about 5'9" - 5'10" what size would be recommendable?

I have a large Prince Albert frame for sale if you're interested?

Feel I would need a small or possibly medium.

DMR trailstar's are good, but not rely light enough for "XC", in fact theres loads of jump frames that come in lighter. They are also short, 21.5" i think, even my BMX has a longer top tube! Fine if your sub 5ft9 ro so, but there's better out there.

Decade Virtue is made by the same people who make DMR frames (i.m 90% sure) so here's my switchback, slightly lighter and steeper than PA/456's bu thats why I bought it. Its slightly too short for me (6gt, short legs), I'd lke a 20mm longer TT and a shorter stem maybe?
[img] ?v=0[/img]

I'll have a look, although keen on PA and the NS at the mo.

PA with Pikes, just built (actually almost built, few little bits still to do):

[IMG] [/IMG]

Have you ridden it yet? any sizing advice?

Looks mean, When you ordered how long did it take to arrive?

N.

nwill1-where are you based? mail me(in profile) if you are after a few more shots of the NS with Pikes.

Steal hardtails are much the same, especially if you haven't ridden on before to compare it to.

I have a 456, chosen mostly on price. Love the frame. It doesn't feel xc even though I only have 100mm forks on. The angles and wide bars make it feel very much that I'm sat in the bike rather than on it.

Been throwing it around for nearly 2 years now and apart from the paint chips and rubs it's still holding together well.

Seat up it can tackle long days out in the hills with big climbs.

Seat down (and it goes down to the frame) you can play and jump without risk to your manhood.

Not a very inspiring picture for a build as it was done from an older bike where I just replaced the frame

[img] [/img]

Sanderson Life
[img] http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yig33d&outx=800&quality=70 [/img]

On One Inbred
[img] http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yh7s9a&outx=800&quality=70 [/img]

Voodoo Bizango
[img] http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yur39t&outx=800&quality=70 [/img]

Steal hardtails are much the same

Nonsense.

Donk know how to mail in profile!

I'm Midland based.

pipedream sirius maybe

just click on where it says member beside my name-then you will see my e-mail. just copy that and send me an e-mail.

Here's my take on the Inbred theme, an overbuilt version of the 456, not dissimilar to a Dialled Alpine in intent. Those are 160mm Nixon Elites on the front.
[img] http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/countzero1/3395730937/sizes/o/ [/img]

I've now added the charge blender to the mix any comments?

456 Summer (slacker head angle than the 456 and clear lacquer finish, also cheaper)
[img] [/img]

B.A.Nana - what size is that summer season. Is it a bike you can through around? Would it handle a bit of jumping and a bit of DH?

It's a 16", I'm 5'10" and 32" inside leg. I was recommended the smaller frame for generally throwing around.. As a jump bike then I guess it's going to be fine. For DH, I don't really know, I had a pretty unpleasent mammouth descent at Innerliethen on Sunday, but I was absolutely knackered and I'm more used to a full sus for that sort of thing. I did have a great day on it at Dalbeattie on Monday tho. it was really superb for whipping thru corners, punching thru rock gardens and all the little jumps and drops.

On the Qualifier
[img] [/img]

nwill1

I have an inbred for sale in great nick..

Mail me your e mail and I will send pics.

My email is on my profile

My PA mk1 is great,
been down Helvellyn, Nan bield etc in the Lakes
Also chuck it over the jumps in the woods etc

I run a small (15.5) and am 5.9.
singlering, pikes, 50mm stem, chain device. comes in at about 31lbs so fine for all day XC romps as well.

[img] [/img]

freeridenick - How do you find the singlering at the front have been seriously concidering that?

Is it ok for the xc stuff too? How many teeth on the front? 32 or 36?

456 Summer Edition once upon a time:
[img] [/img]

i like the look of the summerseason.....

here are my two examples of steely HTs

(old) Sanderson Breath.

[img] [/img]
quite an early photo. excuse the mismatched wheels (crash) and the plastic stuck on it (winter/spring = rain). looked much cleaner toward the end of its life.

cheaper of the two Sanderson's but an awesome bike. climbed well. descended well. only when it got silly steep did i feel out of my depth, wanting more sring at the front, which is why i bought this....

[img] [/img]

goes up and comes back down. the downs, really, are its strong point.

it would have been spot on for where i was living last year (bavarian alps) and the sanderson would be/ is better suited to where i am now (middle of krautland, hilly, more XC riding).

the Alpine has a shorter top tube and a shorter wheel base. feel i have to keep the bike moving more to remain in control at speed but for throwing the bike around and techy downhill tis super. the sanderson felt more rooted/less lively at speed but out of its depth at times. not had that (yet ) with the Alpine.

I paid just over £300 for an Evil Sovereign. Its really good fun, great on jumps, nice and small so you can move around on it.

[url= http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3407283875_1c44d05b07.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3407283875_1c44d05b07.jp g"/> [/img][/url]

CRC site says the NS society has a 72 degree head angle, eek! They also have some evils reduced.

just finished putting this together , not ridden yet as only just finished and on nights tonight. will be mucky soon 😉
[IMG] [/IMG]
[IMG] [/IMG]

OK, I'm seriously jealous of all the 456's I keep seeing on here! I'm going to go into a right sulk til I get my Ti Genesis Altitude now!

Guilliano, here's another one for you.......

[IMG] [/IMG]

I bought a red 456, basically i was looking for a similar bike as the OP mentioned, it's worked very well and has been hammered on night rides and sessioning runs in the south lakes for the past 18 months,if you do go for a 456 just get a LOT of helicopter tape, as there is a reason its such a good deal. I can highly recommend one.

Are the on-one 456's best as geared or single speeds?

Any More?

456s are ace. Here's mine in various guises:

[img] [/img]

[img] [/img]

[img] [/img]

There's a feller trying to sell a Prince Albert on here just now, check the classifieds. Surprised nobody's mentioned the Cotic BFE?