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You can now buy a dropper post for the same money as an entire One Scandal with an upgrade to a dropper post (albeit with a disgusting cable)
Thanks Fox!
Awesome. Another two years and there'll be no cable routing for droppers in frames anymore so we'll be forced into adopting these.
It does seem a tad extreme, even for Fox!
Now I love a wireless dropper, but I can't see what advantages having fox written on the side will have over the competition at (in some cases) less than half the cost.
I can see the current crop of 12 or 14k "superbikes" quickly becoming 20k in the next couple of years...
It's also ugly, which surely doesn't suit the boutique bicycles whose owners it's surely aimed at. Looks like a seatpost wearing an ankle tag.
@finbar
Awesome. Another two years and there’ll be no cable routing for droppers in frames anymore so we’ll be forced into adopting these.
The new Santa Cruz frames have no gear routing on the higher end ones so it's probably not even that far away......
Silly money, but if I was building a bike and cash was no object then I'd find it hard to say no.
Its a no from me, that's fugly and expensive. It will look even worse if you are tall and need to raise it in the frame.
I still think a post that goes up and down at the press of a button would be a good thing. Give it that feature and I'll look at the price again.
if it dropped without sitting on it (why isn't this common?) it could be worth more than other posts.
as it is I'll stick to my oneup
Its a no from me, that’s fugly and expensive. It will look even worse if you are tall and need to raise it in the frame.
With matching Kahhima forks on an otherwise fully blacked out (or single colour scheme) bike I reckon it would look decent.
I'm dreaming though. My TransX goes up and down efficiently enough for me 😀
With matching Kashima forks
lol, they can barely get two legs of the same fork colour matching, never mind two products
I still think a post that goes up and down at the press of a button would be a good thing. Give it that feature and I’ll look at the price again.
With a Doubletap style half press for going halfway and full press for all the way down/up.
I still wouldn't pay anything like 4 figures though.
Hardly "ugly", with a tiny little battery box! 
...but has the black anodizing scratched off from moving it up and down here? ^^ Wouldn't be happy about that on such a pricy thing.
the other thing - imagine how much a replacement lever will be when the cable ones are such mental money for what they are! £300?
the other thing – imagine how much a replacement lever will be when the cable ones are such mental money for what they are! £300?
£229
Folk with 15 year old frames will be happy they are at the cutting edge again, not having dropper routing.
£229
Bargain!
Buy it in the states, where it’s only $859, so £650?
I bought my first GravityDropper 20 years ago imported from the U.S. for $300. According to the online inflation counter, that's worth $500 in today's money. It was up there with suspension forks and disk brakes as the best money I'd ever spent. I still have a couple of old GravityDroppers on bikes in the back of the shed, they utterly awful compared to any modern dropper.
Is response time an issue?
I can see that developing your own wireless protocol can’t have been cheap. Then your making stuff on a small scale.
I wonder how long a cable takes to redoing respond?
I've had my magura dropper since 2014. There is a delay but not that critical... Maybe if I was challenging for podiums I'd feel differently...
It's a shame Ryanair don't do flights to America, it could be cheaper to bring one back in your suitcase and enjoy a little holiday.
Yeah that’s just nuts!
Only if you get them in the way of the 20x quicker mechanism...
Hardly “ugly”, with a tiny little battery box!
I beg to differ, that looks even worse than I'd pictured!
It’s a shame Ryanair don’t do flights to America, it could be cheaper to bring one back in your suitcase and enjoy a little holiday.
I knew someone who "paid" for a holiday in Whistler by buying a Yeti whilst he was out there. This was back when the exchange rate was $2:£1 but bikes and components were pretty much parity $:£.
Looks like a seatpost wearing an ankle tag.
High end kit isn't just for dentists, drug dealers love a bit of bling too
The new Santa Cruz frames have no gear routing on the higher end ones so it’s probably not even that far away……
and a recent Specialized too. Makes me wonder whether Shimano have a wireless rear mech with a delayed launch? Or are the mainstream brands simply not bothered about Shimano at the top end of their ranges?
No one moaned about people moaning yet? Told us all we don't have to buy it? That other posts are available?
STW is slipping.
only $859, so £650?
£650 for a dropper post is still in the realm of LOFL. But we all like choice, so what a time to be alive.
Makes me wonder whether Shimano have a wireless rear mech with a delayed launch? Or are the mainstream brands simply not bothered about Shimano at the top end of their ranges?
The future is wireless, with me using zip ties to hold cable outers on my frame, like I have now
I'd rather they sorted out the common sticky bushing issue which makes the return slow or non-existent.
£650 for a dropper post is still in the realm of LOFL
cheaper than when AXS reverbs launched though (£700 iirc)
also, I reckon the us vs uk price will be explained by VAT & import duty, plus disti and seller margin, are fox selling direct in the US? Keep in mind the us price won’t include sales tax
Even if I could afford it, I would be embarrassed to be seen with it on my bike.
I'm saying that as someone who runs a full rear mudhugger and hand guards.
For £1129 I'd expect it to lower itself automatically as well.
cheaper than when AXS reverbs launched though (£700 iirc)
£50 saved, bargain...
Excuse the sarcastic tone, it's not helpful is it : ) It just falls into the 'just because you can.. ' camp for me. But someone will, they always do, why not.
That battery box is just awful. And obviously taller than a minimal collar as on the best conventional posts, not a good sign to be sacrificing the one thing dropper posts are actually for. It might be more understandable if Fox made the best droppers in the world but they never have. Or if they were interested in improving the basic product and fixing its (admittedly pretty minor) known issues rather than selling a new product by making it shiny but again, this is Fox we're talking about, weaknesses are a selling point not a problem.
tomhoward
Full Membercheaper than when AXS reverbs launched though (£700 iirc)
Sure, but reverbs are mostly marketed and sold to big bike companies not to actual end users, the AXS reverb's pricing is mostly about making gucci complete builds look more expensive. Some people bought them as a standalone purchase but not many, because in the end it's still a Reverb.
I’d rather they sorted out the common sticky bushing issue which makes the return slow or non-existent.
Definitely!
Fugly. Saw this a while ago and felt sure that being a prototype the finished product would be much easier on the eye. Nope.
Crazy price. Dropper posts are a component where paying more often doesn't result in a better product. Not sure why they're making a big deal out of it being faster than AXS? Old Maguras had a delay, AXS doesn't.
Well you can **** that sky high.
Makes me wonder whether Shimano have a wireless rear mech with a delayed launch?
End of this year according to rumours
Don't remember which page but a few months ago here https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-innovation,10797
As someone who had a great dislike for cables on my bike (hence riding singlespeed till I needed gears/motor) I could have easily convinced myself that I needed this after 4 or 5 beers on a Friday night, but waking up with a £1000 hangover would have really hurt
That's pretty much £1k more than I'm willing to spend on a dropper post.
I don't currently have a working dropper post.
Not sure if the old mechanical E13 dropper I have actually functions, and the lever is in pieces scattered amongst random tins and pots in my shed.
Prices will always drop. Have to say I love my wireless dropper (axs) and if folk are happy to pay the cash when the tech is introduced it only benefits others when the prices fall as take up increases.
I think Fox needs to explain the £&€ difference to the $ price pretty quickly - you can get a flight to the US and buy one there for the difference in cost...
You can import one yourself for significantly less than the cost of UK RRP
I reckon you’d get change from £850 which, given how much Cane Creek charge for a few short welded Ti tubes (and sell plenty), doesn’t seem all that bad
Of course it will get cheaper, but pegging an RRP at over 1100 quid means that before you know it the reviews will be praising the bargain £699 Marzocchi version for being a great affordable option.
Is only for sale because of the UCI rules on race bikes needing to use components that anyone can buy?
Which rule is that - does it apply to mtb? a lot of the tech rules do not. (thank god, or we'd all still be racing diamond framed hard tails). Took at least 3 years for Pitcock's Toyko Olympic suspension to become for sale, there's a downhill version of Rockshox flight attendant thats been in use for months, Richie Rude has been riding a full carbon "finished looking" downhill bike for nearly a year that is unavailable to buy.
And if it does apply, who has actually raced it so far? It's fairly un-subtle with that chunky collar, there's no way anyone at the sharp end of XC or Enduro is riding that unnoticed.
Having 1200 quid worth of kit that someone can take off your bike with just an allen key sounds quite scary for me!
just wait until you find out about quick release axles (and how much carbon wheels can cost)
8000 activations before servicing. Anyone have *any* idea how many times you adjust your seat post on a typical ride? There were c40 segments on my last ride. a lot of those had a couple of up/downs within them. plus any time I stop/dismount. I'd be amazed if it wasn't 200+ per ride - so it's at least an annual service. 'not user servicable' remains the biggest issue with Fox posts for me - when you can often buy a new Brand X post for the price of getting a Fox post serviced.
Is only for sale because of the UCI rules on race bikes needing to use components that anyone can buy?
if that were the case, why go to all the trouble of a product launch. Hope don’t advertise their track bike, but you can still buy it if you have £70k burning a hole in your pocket
just wait until you find out about quick release axles (and how much carbon wheels can cost)
what can’t be taken off a bike with an Allen key? BB? Brake rotors?
Anyone have *any* idea how many times you adjust your seat post on a typical ride?
Maybe the app will give you a count? The AXS derailleur will show you at least how much you're using each gear.
not user servicable’ remains the biggest issue with Fox posts for me
One reason I'm replacing the Fox post immediately. The 2025 one is user serviceable.
just wait until you find out about quick release axles (and how much carbon wheels can cost)
I can put the lock through the wheel when i lock the bike up, they might get the front wheel, but that's not got a QR axle, can't remember the last time i had QR axles instead of the 8mm bolt thru's?
The fact it can now nag you about the usual ridiculously short Fox service intervals is hilarious. More likely the app will be ponying up your data to Fox so the buggers can deny you a warranty because you didn't want to send it off for service more than once a year.
I'd be interested in the battery post interface too - biggest issue with all types of AXS are the push pin battery contacts which are a pita to replace on the dropper. The AXS dropper Is just about home serviceable, but you need to know what your doing and have specific tools.
The amount of Axs droppers that have appeared on eBay over the last 18months that have the stanchion scratch led up to hell because the 600hr service interval was ignored has dramatically increased.
And a seperate bespoke charger ? FFS it's 2024, make that either a USB-C or wireless (induction) like a phone.
Dickhaeds.
I can put the lock through the wheel when i lock the bike up, they might get the front wheel, but that’s not got a QR axle, can’t remember the last time i had QR axles instead of the 8mm bolt thru’s?
you can loop a lock through your saddle rails too you know. And who's using 8mm bolt through?
The clamp always comes loose on transfers.
you can loop a lock through your saddle rails too you know.
Well, that's the saddle secured... what about the seatpost?
Re the seat post theft scenario, I wonder whether you could report such a theft to Fox and they, somehow, make it impossible to pair it a new lever???
(Assuming an opportunistic rather than knowledgeable thief just stole the post and didn't think to also steal the lever...)
Why they put the battery on the back and not the front of the post out of harms way is beyond me, guarantee there's an older frame that'll have rear tyre connecting with it when bottomed out, not that you'd put it on old bike but you never know there's always one.
I’ll stick to a nice cheap cable operated one thanks.
Is that £1129 RRP inclusive of the lever, and also a battery?
If not that's an extra £329 or so on top of the seatpost price??!
Is that £1129 RRP inclusive of the lever, and also a battery
Yes, and a charger