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But even back then they weren't stupid enough to do it on drop bars 😛

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Posted : 13/07/2016 10:40 pm
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Needs more plaid. 😀


 
Posted : 13/07/2016 10:43 pm
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#downhilling


 
Posted : 13/07/2016 10:45 pm
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Bikes were invented before tarmac was widespread, so yeah.


 
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Needs more plaid
no, needs more denim! Anyone make jean tyres?


 
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But even back then they weren't stupid enough to do it on drop bars

Oh yes they were... 🙂

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(Honister Pass)

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(CTC May 1930 Vernon Blake)
Bike designed for rough roads.

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The top pic he's very definitely *not* doing it on drop bars 🙂


 
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The top pic he's very definitely *not* doing it on drop bars

He will be once he gets to the top though, just like the American sport of fat boys rolling downhill. 🙂

Doesn't he look happy though?


 
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It's fantastic to see these old places before the age of tarmac and cars though.


 
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[b]Vernon Blake - sculptor, artist, linguist, traveller, philosopher, writer, scientist, inventor and cyclist. But unable to correctly fit a chain...[/b]

😉


 
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Vernon Blake - sculptor, artist, linguist, traveller, philosopher, writer, scientist, inventor and cyclist. But unable to correctly fit a chain...

Wrong.

That set up is deliberate, it was a pre-derailleur system. He used a stick to change gear on the move. It gave 6 ratios, enough for Alpine riding.

This explains the details of his floating chain gear system

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Posted : 14/07/2016 1:31 am
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Wrong.

You spotted that emoticon, right...

Here's another, just for you. 🙄


 
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1/10 for obvious trollage. 😀


 
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Vernon Blake - sculptor, artist, linguist, traveller, philosopher, writer, scientist, [b]inventor[/b] and cyclist. But unable to correctly fit a chain...

That set up is deliberate, it was a pre-derailleur system.

Why didn't he invent the derailleur [i]or[/i] a time machine? 😉

"The French bicycle tourist, writer and cycling promoter Paul de Vivie (1853–1930), who wrote under the name Velocio, invented a two speed rear derailleur in 1905 which he used on forays into the Alps"


 
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that guy pushing up Honister does not look happy.


 
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Why didn't he invent the derailleur or a time machine?

He may have gone on to develop just that idea but unfortunately he died a few weeks after that article. He was a close friend of Velocio.

teasel - Member .
You spotted that emoticon, right...

I did, but it made me realise that there probably would be people who hadn't heard of the floating chain systems and think he hadn't a clue. 🙂


 
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Those pics are from the future, post Brexit.


 
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that guy pushing up Honister does not look happy.

he knows that one day his lack of knowledge about gears will be ridiculed on STW
... also the in the old days the pub will definitely be shut

PS great article from ctc


 
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...PS great article from ctc

It's quite interesting. I copied it because what he had there was the proto-mtb IMO. Sealed bearings, wide rims, specially made fat tyres etc.

If he had lived a bit longer his ideas might have gained traction and we would have had mtbs much earlier.

Oh, and almost certainly those were 650b (26 x 1½") wheels. 🙂


 
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Those pics are from the future, post Brexit.

I like it.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 12:47 pm
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What a great article! Read whilst stuck under an sleeping baby, ill on his first birthday..,


 
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I did, but it made me realise that there probably would be people who hadn't heard of the floating chain systems and think he hadn't a clue.

Phew. For a minute there I thought that maybe the stick he used to change gear was actually lodged up your jacksie. 🙂

Love the thread, though...


 
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Love the thread, though...

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/bikepacking-its-nothing-new-you-know ]It's a shameless rip off of the original! 🙂 [/url]


 
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Don't get me wrong, I like that one, too. But you started it, so...

Edit : 😉


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 8:25 pm
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And the horse you rode in on....!
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😀


 
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teasel - Member
Phew. For a minute there I thought that maybe the stick he used to change gear was actually lodged up your jacksie

No, that was the decrocheur. 🙂


 
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Yeah, that's the thing. Sounds a tad painful. Possibly good for ones Chalfonts should they get entangled...


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 11:29 pm
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From that article -

The real enemy of the cyclist is the cycle trader and manufacturer

Not much changes then... 🙂


 
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