My five tens are getting very worn out after 17 months use and I'm after some new mountain bike shoes to replace them. However they tend to cost £60 and don't want to keep paying this repeatedly. Anyone know a good alternative pair of shoes for flat pedals that would cost more like £30 ?
secondhand 5tens?
Which 5.10's? there was a year or so where they used a different rubber (Mi6 instead of S1, or maybe it was something else as Mi6 is still used on the impact and contact shoes), much softer/gripper but very fast wearing.
Mine are now 5 years old I think and only just wearing out, worn pretty much all day every day when I'm not in work.
I liked my Adidas Cross Trail so much more than my Five Tens I bought 2 pairs 🙂
Not exactly bargain basement but my Giro Jackets have been really good - nearly as good grip as my Freeriders but better support for pedalling. They've worn well and deal with the rain better.
Have CRC got any cheap Sombrios left? They were selling them off for about £20 a pair last year.
I'm currently using these as my riding shoes....
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/arpenaz-500-mens-walking-shoes-beige-blue-leather-id_8322866.html
Maybe not quite up to 5.10 levels of grip but they grip well and so far are wearing ok (except for the stupid white lining, womens colours are better).
Which 5.10's? there was a year or so where they used a different rubber (Mi6 instead of S1, or maybe it was something else as Mi6 is still used on the impact and contact shoes), much softer/gripper but very fast wearing.Mine are now 5 years old I think and only just wearing out, worn pretty much all day every day when I'm not in work.
Bought them in November 2014.
Just done a search of my email for the receipt and they were:
Five Ten Freerider MTB Shoe 2014
Were these the fast wearing type ? I wouldn't mind paying £60 for them again if they are going to last 5+years in all weathers, mud and trails.
I reckon you're being v optimistic hoping for a pair of £30 shoes to match 5tens. I too rate the Adidas cross trails, price compares to 5tens
Grippy shoes equals soft rubber.
Hard wearing shoes equals hard rubber.
You pays your money, you takes your choices.
I'm using SoulCal ankle hi skate shoes at the moment, the waffle soles stick to the pins like glue
£20 in the sales £40 rrp
I'm currently using these as my riding shoes....https://www.decathlon.co.uk/arpenaz-500-mens-walking-shoes-beige-blue-leather-id_8322866.html
Maybe not quite up to 5.10 levels of grip but they grip well and so far are wearing ok (except for the stupid white lining, womens colours are better).
Ooooh, those would match your hair, lovely!
P- taking aside, how do find the tread pattern on the pins for throwing out foot position?
If you get the SoulCals right, your planted, but if you dab and don't get your foot just so, its hell on earth to disengage and re position
The problem with walking shoes, even if they have a good outsole, is they're designed to flex to allow you to walk over rough ground. 5.10's and other riding shoes are designed to be stiff.
Could be, mine obviously weren't, but I've no idea what were the soft ones.Were these the fast wearing type ? I wouldn't mind paying £60 for them again if they are going to last 5+years in all weathers, mud and trails.
Grippy shoes equals soft rubber.
Hard wearing shoes equals hard rubber.
There's often a correlation, but it's not always the case, you could take a soft compound of rubber and make it hard wearing whilst remaining grippy, or you could take a hard compound and make is slow rebounding. Like 'efficient' car tyres, they last several times longer than conventional ones, they have lower rolling resistance, yet often score better than their conventional competition in performance tests for grip (usually something you'd not expect form a long lasting tyre) and noise (soft = slow rebounding = low noise, again not something a long lasting tyres should be).
Long lasting, grippy, cheap, like anything you can't have all three, and it'll still be a compromise regardless.
If you get the SoulCals right, your planted, but if you dab and don't get your foot just so, its hell on earth to disengage and re position
Any decent skate shoes that's stiff enough is usually good enough, just avoid the thinner ones aimed at skateboarders and stick with the bigger/chunkier BMX shoes. You can always compensate with longer pedal pins as long as the sole is stiff enough to ride in and not give cramp.
The problem with walking shoes, even if they have a good outsole, is they're designed to flex to allow you to walk over rough ground
Exactly. Have you seen me pushing up hills 😀
The decathlon jobs don't stick as well as skate shoes, but they do stick well enough you need to lift to reposition on the pedal. Running them on SS nano's with the short pins. I like them as a good all day trail shoe, comfy, stiff enough my feet don't ache (big platforms help), grippy enough on and off the bike.
Might have to give them a go when i kill these.
I wouldnt mind, but the Mrs suggested Decathalon, so que much smugness in this household
Pedals are presently Nukeproof Sam Hills, and the pins are mighty indeed!
Can't let the missus be right 😉
You still knocking around Bolton way?
About 5 miles out towards Salford.
I'm too fat and old to trail fairy and ride Healey Nab so I'm using Lee & Cragg quarries as my go to loop these days
I think you can get them resoled:
http://www.fiveten.com/us/aquastealth-resole-kit
US only but it says UK coming soon.
or
http://www.lancashiresportsrepairs.co.uk/approach_mountain_bike_shoe_repairs.htm
or actually I have pair of the Shimano shoes for flats (not sure what they are called) - sometimes I prefer them as the soles are less grippy and can move the foot around a bit unlike the 510s.
Soft rubber wears fast but it's generally not rubber wear that kills five tens, the whole shoe is generally shortlived. Freeriders are IMO the longest lived they do.
Yeah, i think its the constantly getting soaked and covered in grit every ride that sees off the uppers first
Getting frustrated at having to replace them since I only got them in November 2014. No wonder I'm looking ata cheaper aalternative
I used to have a set of Nike 6-0 which done the job well, not sure what their current model is?
Where did you get the soul cal from?
I guess, like stated above, most stiff soled skate shoes with the right sole pattern would work. DC had a sale on.
So nearly two years out of a pair of shoes that get soaked, dried and generally abused?. I'd stick with the five tens....
Soft rubber wears fast but it's generally not rubber wear that kills five tens, the whole shoe is generally shortlived. Freeriders are IMO the longest lived they do.
My Danny Macaskill Freeriders lasted 2 years of riding 4 times a week in all weathers. The soles wore out before the uppers.
I've just got some normal suede upper Freeriders, I can't see them lasting as long but they were only £40 odd quid.
I've tried vans, Teva and Nike Air Whistler but Five Ten Freeriders are by far the best. They just need to make them easier to dry out.
Getting frustrated at having to replace them since I only got them in November 2014. No wonder I'm looking ata cheaper aalternative
Doesn't seem that bad given the abuse they get (wet, muddy, sweaty feet, being shoved on a metal platform with pins sticking out of it).
How many times a week do you ride?
I binned my first set because the sole lost all stiffness and I could feel the pins through them. I think they lasted about three years although the last six months they were only used on the DH bike because they'd become rubbish for pedaling longer distances.
So nearly two years out of a pair of shoes that get soaked, dried and generally abused?. I'd stick with the five tens....
Abused ? Just used for what they were intended for. Nowhere near the same amount of stick that walking boots get
Five tens are now £70 ffs
Any links please to cheaper alternatives ?
Have heard of Skate shoes being a reasonable alternative
Skate shoes aren't the best. I used them before five tens and would get through the soles in 2-3 months.
are five tens the only viable option ? No alternative ? No wonder they can charge £70 (!)
The Shimano ones aren't as sticky but with decent pedals they're more than grippy enough, seem to last longer and are usually cheaper. I find skate shoes far too bendy. 5.10 are good with warranties but having had both my original VXi's and the replacements delaminate I'm not sure I can be bothered buying another shoe that requires having the sole repeatedly glued back on. Previously I had Teva and Shimano.
I'm 6 months in with a pair of Freerider Contacts and while they are the perfect flat shoe I've ever tried, after weekend use only the soles have delaminated. Currently got a warranty claim in but still waiting to hear back about a replacement.
If they destroyed themselves after what I'd claim as light use through a lot of dry rides god knows what a proper winter would have done.
Annoying, as the shoes are ace. I hear the Freerider Pro's have better construction, so ideally I'd like to chuck some money in and get a set of those next. Thinking about the Shimano AM7's as they review well and look like they could stand up to winter abuse.
I'm a big fan of Shimano shoes. My last set lasted 3 years uppers are fine but sole is shredded to bits. It would be great if I could just resole them.
I think RRP is around £70 so you're not going so save anything but they do pop up on sale every now and then. I think previous shoes cost me £45.