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[Closed] 2012 Shimano XT brakes fresh back from Rose - Warranty

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My rear brake devolped some sort of fault - brake fluid kept somehow leaking onto the pads.

I sent it back on 10.05.12.

Got it back today - brand new caliper (in a box) so now i have to attach myself and get it bled?

Why should i have to re-attach the caliper to hose and pay someone to bleed it when it was a warranty issue?

Alan.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 6:24 pm
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pay someone to bleed it

bleed it yourself?

Other than that it does seem a bit strange that they haven't rebuild the brake for you


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 6:35 pm
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Should of bought them from your LBS.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 6:38 pm
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Dirtydog + 1

One of the reasons mail order is cheaper.
Canyon will cover up to 15 quid of repairs though - a well written mail pointing this out might work?


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 6:52 pm
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Will buy. email in profile e.t.c


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 7:17 pm
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Canyon will cover up to 15 quid of repairs though

on warrenty repairs on full bikes - not just a brake bought seperatly...

OP just bleed it your self...


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 7:19 pm
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[b]My point is it should have come back assembled.[/b]

I could bleed it myself, but would need to buy fluid = more money!

+ it gets worse, went to fit it to the bike - it is missing the banjo bolt and a banjo o ring!

Frigging nightmare! 🙁

Lesson learned - buy from lbs in future!


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 7:37 pm
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My point is it should have come back assembled.

I could bleed it myself, but would need to buy fluid = more money!

+ it gets worse, went to fit it to the bike - it is missing the banjo bolt and a banjo o ring!

Frigging nightmare!

Lesson learned - buy from lbs in future!

[url= http://http://www.samaritans.org/ ]link[/url]


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 7:51 pm
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dirtydog - link not working?


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 7:59 pm
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Ha, ha! - Just noticed the url 🙂


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 8:25 pm
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Why should someone have to bleed brakes themselves when they come back from a warranty repair?

If you car was put into the dealer for a brake issue which required a new caliper would you expect to have to bleed the brakes to have them working properly? [b]I think not[/b]

Shimano obviously at fault mostly but Rose should've inspected them prior to dispatch. I'd be really annoyed as the O.P rightly is too.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:36 pm
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considering rose actually have little liability here then a new calliper is a good deal. Missing parts is very poor.

Have you tried emailing rose bikes?


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:38 pm
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Didn't you LBS tell you to "never shop in my shop again"

You really are a bad man Mr Petrie...


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:49 pm
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considering rose actually have little liability here

I don't know what country you live in, but I'm pretty sure they do.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:51 pm
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Cheers, so many folk saying i should bleed them myself??? - Nonsense.

I have emailed Rose - Hope to get this resolved soon.

Poor show from Rose not checking the bits that they sent back me thinks.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:51 pm
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"considering rose actually have little liability here"

I don't know what country you live in, but I'm pretty sure they do.

really? I live in the UK - ale of goods act does not apply to overseas purchases. shimano warranty is discrtetionary and is with shimano not rose bikes. Not sure how the EC directives affect this


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:54 pm
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1981miked - Ha, ha.

I have many local bike shops, the most local to me is the one i'll never set foot in again.

Cycleworld in Arbroath on the other hand, i will be in again, bit more of a journey, but they have a [b]mechanic![/b] - A thing of dreams for my most lbs salesman.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:56 pm
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Whereabouts are you based? If Rose don't play ball, I'll bleed them for you FOC if you are nearby.

www.bike-it-all.co.uk


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 9:57 pm
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Monifieth in Angus, Scotland 🙂

Thanks for the offer, but we are a good distance apart.

It's not just the bleeding - im minus a banjo bolt and a banjo o-ring 🙁

(there fault as i returned a fully assembled brake )

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Posted : 15/06/2012 10:01 pm
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Have you burst your Banjo then??? Ouch!


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 10:07 pm
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This is a serious thread - Your starting work at 4.30am - GO TO BED!


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 10:09 pm
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It's not the end of the world, is it? Buy the appropriate spacers from chainreaction (or rose?) and GOI. I agree that in an ideal world they would rebuild and bleed for you, but if they offered that sort of service, they'd have to charge more.

For all the "Should have shopped at your LBS crew", the brakes were literally half price compared with UK RRP [b]and[/b] I got them from Germany before they were in UK shops. I'm happy to save money and buy cheap stuff, and accept that if it breaks I'll probably have to fix it myself.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 10:19 pm
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Superficial - I google searched ( can't find it now 🙁 ) and found that Shimano are aware of an issue with these brakes - where the banjo fitting is crimped onto the hose,

The machine in the factory was not crimping them properly - my fault - No.

[b]So why should i be out of pocket in any way for there cock-up?[/b]

And as for how much i paid for them - that does not even come into it IMO.


 
Posted : 15/06/2012 10:26 pm
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Update!

Rose agreed to refund me for a brake bleed! 😀

On the other hand, just got round to fitting caliper on Friday past, took it to Alpine Bikes Glentress yesterday to get it bled and it is also leaking fluid! 🙄

The kind chap never charged me though.

At least i know where it is coming from now.

The fluid is seeping from where the two piece caliper joint is.

Another long haul waiting - freeking bad times 😥


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 1:15 pm
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Just tighten up the bolt where it is leaking 1/4 turn should do it.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 1:23 pm
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The mechanic at Alpine Bikes said he did that.

Will have a look myself tho.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 1:31 pm
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Essentially there are two halves with a bolt (with holes) going through and a rubber o ring. It is not complex or difficult.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 1:49 pm
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Just had a look.

The torx head bolt holds on side, an allen key ( banjo bolt ) holds the other, both done up tight.

If i go messing about taking the caliper apart, i will probably void any warranty i have with Rose.

I do have the same brakes on my hardtail, so doing a bit of swapping between bikes in the mean time.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 1:58 pm
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In contrast (kind of) I had cracking service from rose, especially Fin overhere on our little island.
I returned the front XT to him, and a week or so later got a replacement hose/calliper from Madison. Yes, the hose will need shortening and bleeding again, but I accept that to save £80 or so quid for the set (from Rose as opposed to lbs) then a bit of manly DIY is needed!!!

DrP


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 2:27 pm
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DrP - Would you suggest me contacting Fin and maybe sending it back to him then?

Alan.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 4:08 pm
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So you aren't going to bleed the brake and hope Rose sorts it...for that to happen you need to send it back to Rose (who will undoubtedly do the work but probably not on the day it arrives) and then post it back to you...

How many bikes do you own? If it is just 1 and it is the one without a brake, then you are quite happy not to be riding for a wee while longer? If you have more than 1, then knock yourself out with this pursuit...

Get it bled yourself and then whinge to Rose about poor service...otherwise take the hit and send it back to Rose and wait while they get round to sorting your problem out.

Mineral oil costs very little and I thought Rose did a mailback service so unless you stumped up postage then it isn't a lot of more money.


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 4:56 pm
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Alpine bikes bled it for me yesterday, but informed and showed me that it was faulty and seeping fluid.

I have 2 bikes, so no big deal.

I will send it back and hope it gets sorted out soon.

Going to try what DrP suggested and send it back to Fin, who is within the UK and works for Rose - i think............


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 5:10 pm
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I thought my poor performing XT rear caliper needed a bleed, so I bled it & it was no better.
Then noticed it was leaking so returned it for a warranty repair.
Warranty voided - I bled it with Finish Line Mineral oil so they said they weren't interested!


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 9:32 pm