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Does anybody know if a P7 is any stronger than a Soul?
The P7 seems to be marketed as an all-mountain hardtail yet as far as I can work out the frame tubes on the Soul are of very similar size...
But what if you just want a mountain bike that’ll handle the trails? That has always been at the heart of the P7 ride. Deep down, it’s ‘just’ a mountain bike – and the beauty of mountain bikes is that they have so many uses: as many as there are owners. The steel chassis gives a lively, but direct feel, the versatile geometry allows the P7 to please everyone from tech-fest Lakeland riders to map-crossing all-day (or all-summer) adventurers
The Soul is the original long fork steel hardtail. A trail riding machine in the truest sense, the Soul has amazing adaptability and all round performance. It's just as happy ripping up the singletrack at your local woods or trail centre as it is tearing down mountains on your summer holidays.
they sound similar to me.
Very similar I'd imagine. Not sure P7 is 'all mountain' in the way the BFe is though - much more like the Soul and 'XC but with the odd bit of gnarr'
I'd say the p7 is stronger ( a guess realy ). But their both pretty strong. If you were worried about either breaking you need somthing beefier. 😯
I guess the point is I'm worried how strong my Soul is compared to similar frames?
I imagine it would take a fair amount to break either, I just always assumed a P7 was somewhere between a Soul and a BFe.
Same again for a Stanton Slackline then, same tubes as a Soul yet that is seen as a 4X or mini downhill hardtail. Perhaps I'm reading too much into magazines etc..
CJ,
It is not the gauge of tubes or weight of the frame that determines the strength.
It is the quality of welding and heat treatment that determines the fatigue and ultimate tensile failure.
A weld has often been described as a continuous defect joining 2 good pieces of material.
Have you ever seen a cycle tube stretched to failure?
In the Soul/P7/4x bike comparison, additional gussets may be the decider in the end.
PaulD
I just swapped my 15 year old P7 for a Soul so if you can wait another 15 years I'll let you know if this one stands up the same.....
PaulD cheers, makes sense. On the assumption the Soul is as well built as 'they' say, that will do for me.
Will be more than happy if I get 5 years from it, let alone 15!
Both CEN-tested for a 140mm fork. Which doesn't mean an awful lot in terms of overall strength, but is interesting at least. I'd be surprised if there's a big difference tbh.
But if strength is a concern, then the BFe is lighter than a P7, and cheaper, and almost certainly stronger.
I think the Soul and the BFe are designed to be strong, the P7 is just a load of heavy, strong tubes welded together.
@david, that's very good 😀
All I can say as a BFe owner I am 100% confident the bike is strong enough