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Currently got the Inbred Rigid SS set up with Chunky Monkey/Smorgasbord combo, which was fine in the winter slop but seems too much tyre for the summer dust.

So, what would be a cheap, fast-rolling, possibly semi-slick option? 2.3-2.4 front, 2.1-2.2 rear. Under £20 per tyre (tubeless not needed)


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 11:22 am
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I had some 2.2 Conti Trail Kings on for a bit, they're pretty good. They're spare too...


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 4:04 pm
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I had Rocket Rons on my Inbred and they were rapid and very light. Thin sidewalls though but perfect for the smooth singletrack woods I was mainly riding at the time.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 4:49 pm
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Small Block 8s is what you want


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 5:04 pm
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A Larsen TT on the back would be quite a fast rolling choice, I think

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/maxxis-larsen-tt-xc-mtb-tyre/rp-prod78374


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 5:04 pm
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2.4 cross king (x-king) protection
keep some nice volume and runs low pressures happily whle still being fast!


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 5:20 pm
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So there is a dedicated resource created to research fast rollin* tyres and people still reccomend shite, just because they’ve used it.

this place does make me smile 🙂


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 5:35 pm
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I've got one a racing ralph evo (the lightweight version) in a 2.25 that's had about a dozen uses i'd do for £15 posted


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 5:39 pm
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So there is a dedicated resource created to research fast rollin* tyres and people still reccomend shite, just because they’ve used it.

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I sort of agree but perception is important too.

Thinking a tyre is fast is possibly as important as one that really is when you are actually out riding. 😃


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 6:27 pm
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Out of interest why do Maxxis crossmark II's never come up on threads like these, is it because they are relatively heavy?


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 6:29 pm
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+1 for Kenda Small Block 8. Rolls fast and excellent for summer conditions.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 6:33 pm
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So there is a dedicated resource created to research fast rollin* tyres and people still reccomend shite, just because they’ve used it.

So, having used a fair few tyres, our experience is not as valuable as some reviewer's?

This place does make me laugh sometimes.

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Especially as "All rolling resistance tests are performed on our rolling resistance test machine"

whereas we're recommending tyres we've actually [i]ridden[/i] - I certainly know which is more valuable to me.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 6:46 pm
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I guess arm chair experts vs actual experts. Carry on I guess.

I’ll go with science every time.

i also have a shed load of 26,27.5 and 29 tyres to compare against and what looks quick, isn’t  necessarily Quick.

schwalbe Kojak 26.2.0 is a prime example of that.


 
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Ikons. Except on wet grass where they are terrifying.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 7:44 pm
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I guess arm chair experts vs actual experts.

So the website you linked is the armchair experts, yeah? Cos (again) we're the ones who have [i]ridden[/i] the tyres. Not in our armchairs.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 7:49 pm
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Sorry. I forgot the stw massive have highly calibrated arse dyno’s.

so when did you do your tyre testing? Interested to see the data and share with the group.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 7:58 pm
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The site you linked to tests rolling resistance on simulated tarmac. Very smooth and regular simulated tarmac, at that.

Which is great, if you're looking for the tyre with the least rolling resistance on smooth and regular tarmac.

I don't think that's what the OP is looking for.


 
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I think you’ll find that the same principals apply if you add some slightly bigger bumps.

anyway, looking forward to your test data so be can blow this science thing wide apart.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 8:14 pm
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Calm down guys! I'm not after the fastest rolling tyres, just something a bit faster than the CM/SB combo.

Some good suggestions above though.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 8:29 pm
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I think you’ll find that the same principals apply if you add some slightly bigger bumps.

It's not that simple, which is why you're probably not using Vittoria Corsa Speeds on your MTB.


 
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So there is a dedicated resource created to research fast rollin* tyres and people still reccomend shite, just because they’ve used it.

this place does make me smile

Straight line rolling resistance isn't the whole story. OP has a rigid SS, I wouldn't be wanting to run featherweight low volume sidewalls on that bike just because they topped the wattage charts.

I just mounted tomorrow's race day rubber, opted for crossking over race kings even though I'm using an "extra 3w" pushing the slower rubber..

People rave about maxxis' ikon as race rubber, but they do pretty poorly on the wattage charts.. maxxis best race tire almost 10-15w more than the lowest RR tyres.

I'll take all the info I can muster, empirical data, personal experience ret, and factor it in my decision process.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 8:49 pm
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I know, I was being pedantic. However, until someone does the same testing on dirt it’s the only testing which shows different tyres at different pressures in a controlled environment.

Not ideal but the best available.

just saying.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 8:54 pm
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Sure. It is what it is: a controlled test under specific conditions. As such, the results are useful information provided their limitations are understood. But since a controlled test under conditions representing off-road trails is quite hard to perform, people's experience is also useful information provided its limitations are understood. And, as I think someone pointed out earlier, for non-competetive use, what you perceive to be easier is probably more important than what actually is easier—though in reality you'd expect the latter to guide the former and the two not to be hugely different.


 
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2.3 Super Motos?


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 9:06 pm
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Specialized Captain Control 2.2, if you want a mix of grip and speed, is a ridiculously good rear. Only a wee bit slower than a semislick but a load more grip, if they'd make a 29er 2.4 I'd never use anything else.

Oh and using a test that's pretty much irrelevant because "it's the best we've got" isn't science. I paid attention to that website when I was shopping for road tyres but it's not so useful for mtb


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 9:19 pm
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Just got these for a mates commuter .. https://www.merlincycles.com/schwalbe-sammy-slick-performance-raceguard-folding-mtb-tyre-26-112436.html

strava times so much quicker and tough to boot


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 9:55 pm
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I'd fit something quick out back, Schwalbe Rock Razor is brilliant if you want something that rolls fast, but actually grips in the corners, and something grippy at the front. Maybe stick the Smorgasbord up front if you want to experiment. And buying just one new tyre will save you some dosh - Rock Razor £22 from bikediscount.de. The Maxxis Minion SS is similar and smaller if clearances are tight.

Most rolling resistance seems to come from the rear and most fast rolling tyres are an acquired taste up front. Personally I'd rather trade a little rolling resistance for staying upright. But I'd swap the rear tyre first and see if that livens things up enough for you.


 
Posted : 16/06/2018 10:29 pm