If you were able to spec and build for a all day do anything type of FS bike
what would you have and why ?
Five inch travel front and rear, around 28-30Lb ish, Fox Van 32 Forks, Hope hoops ran tubeless, full XT Group set, Thomson post and stem, Sunline bars. Good solid spec that wont cost the earth to spec.
Just like my bike 🙂
Shame my shed got in the way!
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that's not a Thomson post... 😉
well spotted! That is it's hardcore spec, CCDB fitted too 🙂
alpine 160 w/ccdb, coil lyrics or van 36 rc2's, full saint, hope pro2's on stans flows, 2.4 tires dual ply rear, burgtec pedals and bars, 50mm thomson stem, i beam seat and post, e13 lg1+.
just cos ive got to ride it all day doesnt mean im going to take it easy on the downs! light and fast is all very good but it really frustrates me having to back off cos i might break stuff.
Maybe something along the lines of:
Nicolai Helius AFR, CCDB Ti spring, RS coil Totems or maybe the 170mm coil Lyriks, Profile Racing cranks, Saint brakes/shifters/mech, CK hubs/Spank Rims, Renthal Stem & bars + other quality finishing kit.
That build is inspired by a friends bike, his comes in at around 35lbs with air Totems, but should be able to get that build around the same I would think.
Not everyone's idea of a 'do everything' bike I know, but for me it would be pretty perfect. Might not be the best climbing bike, but would be damn good at coming back down! And just as happy on the UK trails as it would on DH uplift days or a week in the Alps.
Edit: And like slowrider says - it's not going to break too easily!
an AFR for all day riding? don't get me wrong i love Nic's but wouldn't want to ride an AFR all day with that spec. IMO you are also being generous with 35lb weight for that spec on a AFR?
Happy with my 4 inches...................... of Giant Anthem X4 travel that is
Fox RL 100mm and 100mm FloatR
XT chainset, front/rear mech and cassette with KMC X9L chain
Thomson stem with RF Next SL carbon bars
Thomson seatpost with Gobi saddle
Formula K18 180/160mm
Stans Olympic rims/Sun Ringle Dirty Flea hubs with DT Rev spokes
Schwalbe Dirty Dan XC 2.0's run tubeless with Stans yellow tape
Around 24lbs I think
I am looking at this at the moment. Thinking of a Meta 5 Limited as a base and upgrade as bits wear out.
For me it would be:
Strange five evo proto (tapered headtube,iscg mounts,maxle rear etc)
ccdb with ti spring
fox float 140 rlc's qr15 fit damper
ck headset
xtr group
twenty6 rallye pedals
formula brakes
thomson post
salsa fliplock qr seatclamp
thomson stem
sunline vone bars
odi ruffian grips
sdg bel air ti rails
mavic xm819's on pro 2's
high roller ust 2.35's st front 60a rear
Think this would make quite a tidy build - anyone want to buy a kidney?!!!
Seems as its money no object i'd have an extra set of 36's sat in the garage ready to plug in for the alps too but think as we're talking 5" do it all the 32 floats will be fine for uk, went for strong,reliable and reasonably lightweight without going silly.
Si,
I have a medium Helius ST; In trail mode the spec is:
Float shock
Totem solo airs
xm819's on hope pro 2 with 2.4 conti tubeless mountain kings
spike 777 bars
Funn stem
Thomson post
Bel air ti saddle
Diabolous cranks 1x9
Sram x9 gears
Moto V2 brakes
On the bathroom tanita scales it weighs just over 36lb and rides much lighter. I think you could get an AFR close to 30lb with big money.
When I put on the dhx, ex325 wheelset with vented rotors, DH tyres and tubes, and chain device it creeps up to around 41lb.
My 456Ti (just add Stans rims and Formula R1 brakes), I don't want another FS.
I am not sure it would do all sorts of MTB but it would happily do all I want it to 🙂 Anthem X with sensibly light bits to push it down to 23lb or so 🙂
Tallboy
Love my Ventana but with coil Pikes & 2.35 Kendas its a bit porky.
Needs Revs & 2.1 tubeless me thinks.
Would be quite happy to spend the day aboard my Inbred to be honest.
Any Saracen economy hardtail!
an AFR for all day riding? don't get me wrong i love Nic's but wouldn't want to ride an AFR all day with that spec. IMO you are also being generous with 35lb weight for that spec on a AFR?
I know his weight is pretty accurate (properly weighed not calculated) but I can only speculate with the above spec. Thinking about it his does have carbon bars, and Formula The One brakes which will save a bit over that spec.
I'd still have it as an all day bike, my current 'do everything' Wildcard weighs up at 37/38lbs, more with DH rubber on. Unfortunately my bank account says I'm only allowed one bike at the moment, so it has to cover many bases.
Pretty much exactly what i've got bar some fancy finishing kit and a lighter set of wheels.
Nicolai Helius CC, Air Revs, XT drive train (ok I've got an SLX crank)
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this is just right for my needs seeing as I mince more than John Inman 😀
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My Intense 5.5. Its ****ing ace!!!! Possibly with a bit more bling on it. Not because it needs it really. The XT/LX stuff its got works fine. But just because.... 🙂
Its running Revs and very very light Bontrager Rhythms. A Thompson stem and Post would be nice though. And.... erm.... and....
My Rock Springs is pretty close: -
Pike Airs
Mavic 719s on Hope Bulbs
Nukeproof Bars
I-Beam post and Bel Air saddle
Hope M4s
SRAM X9 gearing and Stylo cranks
And lastly either SB8 or Ardent tyres - with Stans strips
All in it tips the scales at a healthy 30lb and hasn't completely sharted my finances.
Nicolai Helius AC in gates team colours, i'd spec an integrated headtube to run integrated headset, maxle rear end, CCDB, with DT swiss XRC 150mm forks, Tune Eidleweiss hubs on Stans 355, nobbynics, XX drive train, magura marta Mag SL brakes, as much ti hardware as i dare, burgtec penthouse mk3 pedals, burgtec bars, point1 racing 70mm stem, selle italia SLR saddle, Tune post + clamp
Im thinking of moving on 2 bikes and as above quite fancy hanging on for the new ;
Orange Evo with -
CCDB ti spring
Fox talas 36
Flows on Pro 11
Thomson x4 stem and post (possibly try some sort of dropper)
Raceface SIXC bars
Hope Tech V2 front with floaty rotor
Tech 4 rear
XTR group (not 100% on this one is it too light/fragile or is it just excellent performing kit)
Just need the rumours on the frame to come true now
Pretty much exactly what i've got bar some fancy finishing kit and a lighter set of wheels.
Likewise
My Maverick Durance with DUC forks is just about the perfect all day FS bike as far as I'm concerned. If I had the money it would get a full XTR groupset to replace the SLX/XT/XTR mix that's on there now, some Stans rims on some nice hubs and some Easton carbon bars. It's already got the obligatory Thomson post, SDG Bel Air Ti saddle, XTR discs and tubeless tyres.
Santa Cruz Tall Boy.
Ibis Mojo but with tapered headset and maxlelite rear- have current one and love it
Ibis Mojo 100mm 29er- Doesn't exist yet but I still want one!
Not much imagination going on in this thread. My S-Works Enduro was my dream build but within the constraints of my budget.
Without spending hours thinking about it, I might go something like this.....
Mojo Carbon with Lopes Link
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36 Talas
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Industry 9 wheels
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Rubber Queens, Hope Tech M4's, XTR, a smattering of Chris King, carbon cranks, Easton CNT bars - and pay someone extortionate amounts of money to produce the hydraulically operated dropper post that I saw once, somewhere.
For me;
Cove Hustler
RS Revs or Pikes 140mm travel, 20mm bolt through forks
Fox RP23 shock
Pro II hubs
Stans Crest rims
Maxxis High Rollers Super Tacky front / 60a rear
Thomson X4 stem
Race Face Deus XC bars
Sram X-0 gripshifts
Avid Juicy Ultimate brake levers with Goodridge hoses and Elixir callipers
Foam grips
Gravity Dropper seatpost for Alps
Thomson seatpost for (85% of) UK
SDG Belair Ti seat
Race Face Deus XC chainset
Sram X-9 rear mech
Shimano XT front mech
Sram chain
Shimano XT cassette
orange blood, with them super fancy crank brothers wheels xtr kit, funn pedals v1 bars, thomson seatpost high rollers, and fox 36 airs
Erm... actually... can I have one of these.....
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Again like many here it would be quite like the bike I have
Something like
Santa Cruz Superlight Carbon (I know- fantasy remember)
Full xtr
Rock Shox Reba team 120 maxle lite
Mavic Crossmax SLR disc with 20mm (fantasy) front axle
Racing Ralph tubeless
RaceFace Next SL carbon bars and seat post
Formula R1 disk brakes 180 front 160 rear
fizik gobi saddle
something like my marin quake. With the RS Lyric Solo Airs, saint m810 brakes (203f/180r), sramXX chainset, X0 gears, goretex outers and my DHX Air. Some nice tubeless wheels from Merlin would be nice too. Chuck on some thomson bars, post and stem and it'd be perfect!
It is a bit burly, but the frames reasonably light and the propedal makes climbing pretty easy.
But, the ideal STW FS? Surely it should be made of steel scaffolding and from really niche manufacturer? I nominate the BMW Race Link! If only it was SS specific...