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Apart from A) the hilarity B) looking like bishop from aliens anything I need to worry about, pretty much covered me from head, face, eyes and clothing.....?


 
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Badger.

That is all.


 
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Cfh..... android badger


 
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You probably wont be able to cry for a while!


 
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Spafftastic ....

Badger badger...


 
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Could be worse, at least it's not Sudocrem!


 
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I did that a few years back and it left me with ringing in my ears for a few days and "splinters" of latex in my fingers which itched like hell and went a bit septic/manky over the course of a few weeks. In the long term i was fine. I think the trouble was more the pressure at which said tyre separated from the rim than anything else mind.


 
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Haha :lol:, been there done that. Not m0rk, but OP. Sounded like a cannon going off in the garage, my ears rang for a bit, I dont remember cleaning up, I guess I just left it to dry.


 
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Ringing in ear ...check...eyelashes sticking.....yep....neighbours dog freaked out.....beard very airtight.....


 
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Soak clothes in bath asap. Latex will never come out if it dries, but you also don't want to agitate it either as it'll turn into rubber.


 
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So not in the washing machine then....for the clothes


 
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Soak clothes in bath asap. Latex will never come out if it dries, but you also don't want to agitate it either as it'll turn into rubber.

This, or you end up with Schrödinger's jizz stain. I have a pair of jeans that I didn't quite get it out of fast enough. The stain doesn't show when they're freshly washed, but it does by the end of the day.


 
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I hope they weren't clothes you were fond of. I wrote off a favourite berghaus fleece in a tubeless explosion 😥
Well technically it now just gets used for filthy garden jobs and tubeless tire fitting...


 
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This, or you end up with Schrödinger's jizz stain. I have a pair of jeans that I didn't quite get it out of fast enough. The stain doesn't show when they're freshly washed, but it does by the end of the day.

You jizzed in your jeans and you are :

a) talking about it on the internet
b) saying it only really shows when they get a bit, well, minging?

😯


 
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So not in the washing machine then....for the clothes

Guessing not. Latex is lots of long chains of protein molecules suspended in water. If you agitate it the chains get tangled together exactly like wool fibres in felt, making the liquid into a solid. Same happens if the liquid evaporates. But the solid rubber is then in the fibres of your clothes so never comes out.

Try rubbing the liquid in your fingers. This is why it works as sealant - as the air forces it through the hole in turbulence it forms solid rubber. So I would worry your washing machine would have the same effect before it could be washed out.


 
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Schrödinger's jizz stain
That is funnier than it should be. I suspect I need my bed


 
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Well written, mols.


 
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Wipe down [b]every[/b] surface especially if it's a white one. Once it dries and goes off, it'll turn yellow and then orange and it never, EVER comes off.


 
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How [i]does [/i]Stan produce so much fluid?


 
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I had this a few years back, i put it down to a bad batch of Stan's fluid, Probably not enough protein, :-0

Climbing up Innerleithen trying to find the hidden bits when i could feel the rear end getting harder "this sounds wrong" i was just about to get off the bike to check what was going on when an almighty crack went off literally covering me in sealant, still not sure what it was but never had it since. i must admit to a bit of seepage from around the rim when i moved the bike in the morning there was a watery amber type substance on the floor like water? odd. And my clobber was infected with Jizz stains as well.


 
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So not in the washing machine then....for the clothes

Guessing not. Latex is lots of long chains of protein molecules suspended in water. If you agitate it the chains get tangled together exactly like wool fibres in felt, making the liquid into a solid. Same happens if the liquid evaporates. But the solid rubber is then in the fibres of your clothes so never comes out.

Try rubbing the liquid in your fingers. This is why it works as sealant - as the air forces it through the hole in turbulence it forms solid rubber. So I would worry your washing machine would have the same effect before it could be washed out.


Shaking a bottle of sealant, or indeed neat craft latex, does not cause it to polymerize. Nor indeed does leaving it in a tyre and riding over bumpy trails. So there must be quite a high amount of shear needed before this happens. Alternatively, some evaporation is needed to get the concentraiton up before it happens. The finger-rubbing would result in a fast-evaporating thin film.


 
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I had a tire blow off the rim (ohhh errrr) in my old kitchen, the tyre ended up about ten feet away from the rim and 2oz of sealant managed to spread itself over every surface/wall/ceiling/appliance in there.

Pretty impressive stuff from 30 odd psi.


 
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This sounds like something I don't want to repeat myself. Do we know what the main cause is? Too much pressure? Tyre not seated? I always seat the tyre with no stans fluid in, then let the air out, add sealant and re-inflate - would this prevent this from happening?


 
Posted : 10/10/2016 9:10 am
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Some user error on my behalf...... previously used non tubeless tyres with no issues.....but trying to schwableschwab nobby nics to keep air, using a floor pump and just overdid it.....bang.....

Pretty much wrote off my clothing, beard is very tangled, skin around eyes still stinging, eyes had small latex clumps this morning and worst when I get my face wet, sticky for ages.

Been informed that I am irresponsible,.........plants in the area are rubberised


 
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what would be the most effective way to remove fresh sealant from clothing? dab with kitchen roll?


 
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So there must be quite a high amount of shear needed before this happens

Yes I think so. It's fascinating stuff.

But it still buggers your clothes. I have a feeling that if you soaked it when wet long enough, it would dilute the protiens enough to then let you wash the residue out in a washing machine. Not tried it though.

what would be the most effective way to remove fresh sealant from clothing?

I'd try lobbing the whole lot in a bath, giving it a gentle prod every so often and changing the water. Without agitating it.


 
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I was being a tight arse by refitting knackered/deformed tyre.


 
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My first attempt at tubeless ended thus. A mate was helping me and we did it in his kitchen.
There was a MASSIVE bang and Stans everywhere.
It was quite funny watching him get rollocked by his wife 😀


 
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I am well into double figures with the number I have fitted (20 or so) first time it happened but thereagain I do not use schwable tyres......lesson learnt


 
Posted : 10/10/2016 9:37 am
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My first attempt at tubeless ended thus. A mate was helping me and we did it in his kitchen.
There was a MASSIVE bang and Stans everywhere.

This is marvellous. 😆


 
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Fortunately never had an explosion with tubeless-ready tyres and rims. In the old days of tubeless conversions and dodgy tyre/rim combinations it was a different matter altogether, put me off tubeless for a decade.


 
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How did it taste? Like pineapple?


 
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It would be more a coconut substitute in a pina colada.


 
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Though the acidity of the pineapple juice would curdle it.


 
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[url= https://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ ]RSC notes on the solidification of latex in fabrics[/url]

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article on the colagulation of latex in aerosol dispersions[/url]


 
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same thing happened to me a few months ago. did a conversion to my dh wheels. i bought a caffe latex conversion kit which contained their own latex sealant. initially the tyre would not seal but i managed to get them to sit on the rim and they held the pressure. added the sealant and re-inflated and left it overnight and hey presto the following morning they were flat as a pancake. re-inflating them and shaking them around, i couldnt hear the sealant sloshing about so i added some more sealant and again inflated the rear tyre first. i think i pumped it up to about 40psi...left it for no more than 2 minutes as i turned my attention to the front one and i created a new universe in the living room covered in latex gunk
the kevlar bead was ripped and the latex sealant i had just added was all over the wall and one of the sofas...i managed ot wipe all that off but on closer inspection the sealant from the night before had set into what looked like a congealed omelette...so it had not done its job at all
to say i was pissed off was an understatement!!


 
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I was just taking the floor pump valve off when it blew.......


 
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I was just taking the floor pump valve off when it blew....

so you were right near it...ouch

luckily for me i was a few feet away when mine blew...wife didnt even notice when she came back...i managed to clean all traces of it up

except that she noticed one of the canvas paintings on the picture rails was now covered in some odd looking splatter effect...i missed that off thinking it hadnt reached that high up...i confessed to her much to her amusement!

cost me the nice rim tape i removed from the rims, the conversion kit that is now useless and in the bin and one of my favourite tyres 😥


 
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You jizzed in your jeans and you are :
a) talking about it on the internet
b) saying it only really shows when they get a bit, well, minging?

You misread.


 
Posted : 10/10/2016 11:16 pm