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In the latest ST there's a review of a pair of suspension forks costing over £900, and recently I've noticed a trend for similar outrageous fork prices. That's more than twice the cost of my whole bike. Can any fork be so lovely in operation as to justify such expense ?
Bit like cameras really.
Nahh, not really, IMO. I'm with you on that one.
I buy my stuff either in sales or secondhand. If you're shrewd it's possible to pick up 2-3 year old 'expensive forks' for bobbins. With a bit of buying and selling, I only laid out about £30 for a set of Lyriks selling for £700+ 🙂
I think its the fact that so many riders (especially ones on STW) now push the boundaries of the sport. Expensive, long travel forks can be the difference between making it round llangdegla black run and back to the cafe before it closes, or going home cold and hungry.
I'm not a good enough rider to tell the difference I dont think so I just use a set of 100 quid marzocchis
Bit like cameras really.
I can't agree with that. Admittedly my camera is even more expensive that a pair of forks, but it is a superb tool and does far more than just go and down over bumps 🙂
Expensive, long travel forks can be the difference between making it round llangdegla black run and back to the cafe before it closes, or going home cold and hungry.
really ? I'd be curious to see how much difference an expensiver fork could make, timewise...
it's diminishing returns isn't it.
£900 forks will not be twice as good as £450 ones or 9 times better than £100 ones.
My experience is that for someone with my jeycore/numpty skillz is that a more expensive pair of forks means I fall off less because they keep the tyre more in contact with the ground for longer.
Of course, it might be that buying a £500 pair of forks and spending £400 on skills training might be a better investment for most of us...
I think he was taking the pee, SFB 🙂
I disagree with this though
my camera is even more expensive that a pair of forks, but it is a superb tool and does far more than just go and down over bumps
The camera just takes pictures.... 😛
I can't agree with that. Admittedly my camera is even more expensive that a pair of forks, but it is a superb tool and does far more than just go and down over bumps
For the amount yours cost, I'd want an auto arse recognition/focus function on it. 😉
I think its the fact that so many riders [b](especially ones on STW)[/b] now push the boundaries of the sport.
New keyboard and cup of tea please 😆
I think he was taking the pee, SFB
oh, you think so ??
Of course, it might be that buying a £500 pair of forks and spending £400 on skills training might be a better investment for most of us...
or in my case spending £50 on some 'lightly used' forks and not caring if I fall off 🙂
I'd want an auto arse recognition/focus function on it.
I have a brain for that :o)
It's all about disposable income and self justification.
I was going to by s 36 Float R for my new bike but picked up a cheap RC2. I've no idea how good the R was going to be but I love the RC2, playing with the Low/High speed compression has been ace - for some people the extra adjustability is worth the outlay, for others its pure oneupmanship and having to have the best.
As long as people buy them and then sell them on second hand to me a year or so later with little or no use I'm happy.
oh, you think so ??
Well, I flippin' hope so, yes! 😉
If only we had a forum regular who was an authority on such matters. If only there was someone who had changed the forks on his bike every other day for years. Tried every single product, before concluding after extensive testing in every conceivable condition (or the car park at least) that they're all rubbish and none of them work. At all
If only such a man existed
I have recently gone back to a cheap fork (from one that was around £600 in 2006) and It does feel a bit less controlled, tends to dive in bends and occasionally gets stuck in ruts where my older fork wouldn't, though i guess mostly that s just me being used to having a good fork to compensate for my lack of skill.
Having test ridden lots of nice bikes in the Alps a few years ago there was a noticeable difference between, say fox 36 and Marzocchi 66's. though that may have been set up related. I expect their is a noticeable difference on high end forks, wether its worth the extra money is negotiable. To be honest, I get round every trail centre on my current bike, as I did on various previous incarnations. Yet I still get over taken by people on bikes that I would concider cheap with cheap forks. Rider not bike?
If only we had a forum regular who was an authority on such matters. If only there was someone who had changed the forks on his bike . Every single product, before concluding, after extensive testing in every conceivable condition (or the car park at least) that they're all rubbish and none of them work. At allIf only such a man existed
I know. We are in need of such guidance. How do we live without it?
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If only we had a forum regular who was an authority on such matters. If only there was someone who had changed the forks on his bike every other day for years. Tried every single product, before concluding after extensive testing in every conceivable condition (or the car park at least) that they're all rubbish and none of them work. At allIf only such a man existed
It might work, but we would probably have to advise him how live the rest of his life & wipe his A*se
If such a man existed they'd probably name a pair of shoes after him, although in deference to his ability to judge a pair of MTB forks they'd probably be road shoes;
[url= http://www.vittoria-shoes.com/schedaProdotto.aspx?ID_prodotto=138&ID_pagina=31&lang=EN ]The Hora[/url]
It was always the way - I remember when Rockshock brought out the "DHO" (DownHill Only) fork, a 6" travel triple crown elastomer sprung fork with a (radical at the time) bolt thru axle and that was £1200! For an elastomer fork!
😯
Very few people actually pay £900 for forks though, do they?
It's not hard to find Fox 36s, Lyriks etc for £500 or under - and I'm sure the same will be true for the new Marz fork before too long.
Simon what's wrong pet? You seem all disgruntled and out of sorts today. This along with the innovation is dead thread make me think you didn't have a great weekend.
Pucker up fella. You've got another shot at it in five days time!
the mark up on these forks must be huge
otherwise they wouldnt all be discounted to half the rrp a year later?
Most high end kit isn't bought at full price though, certainly not in the first year. Frames, forks etc is all sold at very heavy discount or given away for use by sponsored riders. Occasionally some super-wealthy weekend warrior who wants the best kit available might buy one but it's very rare.
The price then drops substantially the following year as the next great upgrade comes along.
This along with the innovation is dead thread make me think you didn't have a great weekend.
no, I had a great time thanks, lovely weather (mostly), gorgeous totty, great terrain 🙂
These thoughts were inspired by reading the mag.
There was a time I couldn't justify spending >£100 on forks
Then I got some menja's as a bargina for just over £200
Might be going back to some £120 forks (s/h) soon as my ridings progressed and I want cheep but good stuff I don't mind ****ting into trees.
I'd have the latest kashima float36 rc2's or 'zocchi rc3 ti if I had the dosh, but I cant justify them, especialy as the car could be upgraded to double wishbones, telescopic dampers and trailing arms, lower springs, and uprated half shafts for the same money!
I bought a new DT Swiss XMC130 for less than half price recently.
That's all I've got to type.
These thoughts were inspired by reading the mag.
Well there's your answer then. Stop reading the mags 😉
Stop reading the mags
sadly that's the conclusion I've reached. Apart from Mike Ferrentino there's nothing in it for me 🙁
You get what you pay for generally. Fox forks are worth every penny.
Apart from Mike Ferrentino there's nothing in it for me
Until you start getting your pictures published of course. 8)