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You can’t be competitive uphill on an eebike. It’s a contradiction in terms.
Not seen the EWS-E Power Stage then?
hooli
I appreciate others will have different opinions and I’m not claiming everybody should be an antisocial bugger like me
It's not top of my list either but like I said I build and maintain trails and build bypass features don't interest me either. (I'd have answered yesterday but we were out maintaining a trail I never ride)
chiefgrooveguru
Again, it’s not complicated – if they ride off without waiting, let them go! The rest of the group can hang back like sensible humans who understand that empathy is required if you’re going to have group rides that everyone enjoys.
Except with the EMTB's on a larger group ride it is more complicated.
I'm going to make an assumption on an inclusive group ride that any of the ones at the top 1st are experienced enough to let bugger off and if they manage to drag a few along they are also. Indeed if it was just one then I'll be honest I don't care if they get lost or hurt. The problem is after creating deliberate confusion when they drag others with them
I've talked to some of the ones got dragged in and reasons given range from "I couldn't let him just take everyone to get lost or hurt" to the most common being essentially "I was all confused because he was shouting we had to go and then when I saw others go I followed" to "I know, but he's my Dad"... this latter being another complication as the lad (adult) is one of the nicest blokes you'd ride with ... I've also listened to the excuses .. "I was getting cold/hot/wet, I'd been waiting ages" .. "it's not my fault they can only afford peasant bikes" ... and probably most common for the umteenth time "oh I didn't realise".
thegeneralist
You can’t be competitive uphill on an eebike. It’s a contradiction in terms.
Oh you totally can... and its great fun.
doomanic
but then the world’s most anti-eeb ebiker wouldn’t have anything to moan about.
What makes you think I'm anti-EEB?
I'm anti- built in failure/obsolescence and non maintainable parts.
in the same way I'm anti manufacturer warranties that take your fork off to service yourself you voided warranty.
I'm anti- people selling eMTB's pretending the failures and built in obsolescence are not a thing. (same as people selling frame with known issues to buy a different one) - these aren't eMTB specific.
I'm anti taking the piss out of people can't afford them because they are peasants same as I'm anti people owning Yeti's or SC taking the piss out of people for getting affordable bikes - again not eMTB specific
BUT mostly I'm anti people who don't "moan" about the lack or availability of replacement motors or proper serviceability of them because unless people do moan it will never change.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR
Swinley
Tech?
Yeah ... not where I'd choose to ride but partly its a convenient location (for people North/South of London) and partly some of the beginners class even the official trails as "tech".
Yeah … not where I’d choose to ride but partly its a convenient location (for people North/South of London) and partly some of the beginners class even the official trails as “tech”.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind it - ridden once on the HT and once on the EEB. Preferred it on the E-bike
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind it – ridden once on the HT and once on the EEB. Preferred it on the E-bike
Yeah, I don't mind it... I just wouldn't choose to go by myself. (Its the same time to cycle/drive to Peaslake and I'd go past Tunnel Hill to get there and rather ride there ) but its a pleasant place to be in the trees and get some fresh air meeting people for whom peaslake is an extra hour after work.
If I was the OP then I'd get an indoor trainer instead of an ebike. You only need to do 3 x 45 minute indoor sessions a week to really boost your fitness. They're much cheaper than an ebike as well.
This would however be hard work compared to just buying an ebike.
What makes you think I’m anti-EEB?
Oh, I dunno, maybe it's pretty much every time you post it's to say ebikers are dicks or ebike manufacturers are dicks, or some combination of the two.
Oh, I dunno, maybe it’s pretty much every time you post it’s to say ebikers are dicks or ebike manufacturers are dicks, or some combination of the two.
Got to say I'm struggling with why anyone would disagree with any of this:
I’m anti- built in failure/obsolescence and non maintainable parts.
in the same way I’m anti manufacturer warranties that take your fork off to service yourself you voided warranty.
I’m anti- people selling eMTB’s pretending the failures and built in obsolescence are not a thing. (same as people selling frame with known issues to buy a different one) – these aren’t eMTB specific.
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BUT mostly I’m anti people who don’t “moan” about the lack or availability of replacement motors or proper serviceability of them because unless people do moan it will never change.
None of it is eMTB specific except the last one but who are we supposed to moan to? The supposedly high failure rates motors in eMTBs is not representative of the market as a whole.
For all the snobbery swinley attracts versus TH/Peaslake, I do find swinley delightful for a solo bimble and some playing on a few jumps.
I don't really understand why people look down their nose at swinley, I personally can make it just as technically challenging as anywhere else in the area. And just as fun.
Tongue in cheek, but definitely serious, is lack of fun at swinley actually down to lack in ability?
Mix with the lower orders 😕 Not likely.
They're like the cantilever crowd from yesteryear, stoically sticking to what they know, and afraid to move on.