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[Closed] DX jawbone style glasses - compatibility with genuine jawbones?

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Following on from this thread:

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/oakley-jawbone-cheapest-and-safest-place-to-buy

How compatible are the DX 'jawbones' with genuine Oakley ones? I'm not intending to use the DX supplied lenses but would be interested in changing the colours of my jawbones' jaws or upper section if my current lenses work with them and the price is about right to make that feasible.

DX jawbone style glasses: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fashion-outdoor-sports-uv400-protection-pc-lens-goggle-sunglasses-white-68764


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 1:18 pm
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People are saying they are identical and genuine lenses will fit.
I just got a pair and the quality is pretty good.


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 2:05 pm
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I'm sure you've read my Posts on the other threads but I can confirm that I have fitted genuine Oakley clear vented lenses to the deal extreme jawbone copies, not only do they fit but they fit perfectly. Hth.


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 2:32 pm
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Cool - I've actually gone ahead and ordered a pair - only £10 so nothing too much lost if they weren't any good.


 
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Just had a look at the link, I can't believe they even have the Oakly "O" on them too!! how can they get away with such a blatant copy.


 
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They probably have "Oakley" written as "Oakly" though 😀


 
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Probably! That'd get them round it 😳


 
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Would it? I imagine Oakley have a copyright on their logo as well!

Very blatant! Whilst I don't condone counterfeits it's certainly a good way of getting other frame colours or whatever!


 
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Would it? I imagine Oakley have a copyright on their logo as well!

Whilst Oakley may well have worldwide patents on stuff, I suspect enforcing it in some countries is 'challenging'


 
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where is cheapest to get genuine lenses


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 3:56 pm
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Is it not a bit of a false economy if you are going to get a couple of pairs of Oakley lenses for them?

Going to be about £80 - 100 on lenses so when you add the cheap frames to that its not much less than what the genuine ones would cost.


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 3:57 pm
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Might take a punt for £10, I fancy swapping out the lowers on my black jawbones for something a bit brighter. Blimey they've got (presumably) loads of fake team kit as well....


 
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After reading the other thread, i ordered a pair as i wanted to change the jaws on my 'real' Jawbones.

Spoke to Oakley the other week about getting hold of some and they said they do not sell them as spares. So fo a tenner, i'll take a chance on the whole thing.

Best bit is reading the reviews below the glasses, "these are great copies". Bet Oakley love them!!


 
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Is it not a bit of a false economy if you are going to get a couple of pairs of Oakley lenses for them?

I already have a pair of genuine Jawbones so don't need to buy any lenses.


 
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Reported the site to Oakley


 
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I reported your post for being inflamatory 🙂

I'm sure Oakley are well aware of it already Houns.


 
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I actually met one of the senior managers of the Italian company that owns Oakley a couple of weeks ago. They are a fantastic family owned business who invest an enormous amount in R&D in Europe and the US. I know nobody gives a sh1t about anything anymore but buying crappy Chinese rip-offs hurts decent businesses and their employees.

(If you buy yourself some proper Oakleys they come with a perpetual crash replacement policy. I broke a 7yr old pair last year, they sent me a new pair of Jawbones for £100)


 
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mcboo, can you not have a quick word with them then? I only want some different coloured jaws but they won't sell me any, even though i have a genuine pair.

They would be more than happy to sell me another pair for me to pull apart and get what i want but i just don't want to do that. Best thing is, you can get the bloody things off ebay from the USA!!

Houns, if they offer you a reward for reporting the site, ask them to throw in a pair of jaws for me will you??!! 😉


 
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Didn't know about the crash replacement I take it the frames need to be snapped rather than just badly scratched up....have an old pair of half jackets that took a grinding a few years back.

And, if oakley did sell spares at reasonablish prices it would be nice for those of us who fancy a change and don't want to shell out for a whole new pair.

Btw - someone asked about lenses, I got my vr28's fairly cheap from CRC with topcashback and 10% off at the time


 
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Nah I'm pretty sure they will replace old scratched ones, its about 40% off. Their customer service centre is excellent, just call them.

They are a very cool company. Own Rayban, Persol and Oakley, manufacture under license in Italy just about every designer sunglasses you can think of. Prada, Chanel etc etc etc........been going 50yrs and still owned and run by the original founder and his son.


 
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Anyone bought the fake split jackets?


 
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Luxottica are the owners of Oakley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxottica


 
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Yes lux own Oakley.

A move that us Oakley collectors feared. Yes I still wish Oakley was independent, it has been obvious since lux took over they have been more interested in trotting out signature series and ltd editions than developing new tech and research


 
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These threads have me worried. I have bought clear lenses online from a bike shop. How do I know they are genuine?


 
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What bike shop was it?


 
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Got my clear ones from here: http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=22728
not sure if they are the cheapest though.
As for buying counterfeit products, i like Oakleys styling and the quality of there lenses, i own genuine pairs of straight jackets and a-frames but i can't justify well over £100 on glasses for riding in that are likely to get trashed. I could have got cheaper glasses from Aldi, Lidl, B and Q or even from a bike manufacturer but i didn't, i bought what i fancied. I agree they are a blatant rip off, they even say jawbone on the inside of the arm but i'm not the one selling them, i am surprised they haven't been taken off sale yet though.
They also have Radar copies on there, would be interesting to see if the genuine lenses fit in those too.


 
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Recently bought genuine oakley crosshair prescription sunglasses but at £280 I won't wear them riding.
Can you get prescription lenses for the jawbones and any idea how much ?


 
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They aren't 100% perfect copies - comparing the 'retina burn' jawbones on DX to the legit ones I have at home the screw that holds the jaw on is different (although i note on another colour its the same) and some of the text is black rather than white on the inside arm but they even have 'Made in the USA' and 'Jawbone' moulded into the frame. They are very good copies although knowing the variable quality of DX stock they may very well be more obviously 'knock-off' when you get them.


 
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cyclestore are legit so you're fine.


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 7:03 pm
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How long they take to deliver from DX?


 
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Didn't know about the crash replacement I take it the frames need to be snapped rather than just badly scratched up....have an old pair of half jackets that took a grinding a few years back.

They replaced the frame on my Radars last week, the finish had come off (admittedly there was a problem with them, but I've not bothered to do anything for 4 years), they sent me a brand new frame for £20, I'm happy.


 
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Didn't know about the crash replacement I take it the frames need to be snapped rather than just badly scratched up....have an old pair of half jackets that took a grinding a few years back.

I sent back a ~20 year old pair of knackered Mk1 Eye Jackets and they've offered 40% off any new pair of Oakleys. That makes a genuine set of Jawbones £114, not bad in my book.


 
Posted : 20/03/2012 4:21 pm
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Eyes are too poorly for Oakley. Has anyone managed to have a pair of Jawbones glazed with +2.75 or more prescription. For £10 I could buy a pair to test first.


 
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Any feedback on delivery/service from DX? Placed an order on 20th and order tracking has just sat at Paid ever since. Delivery according to their timeline should be any day now. I emailed today but no feedback so far. What are they like for refunds on cancellation?


 
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I got an email on Sunday saying they were out of stock.

I got an email yesterday saying they've been shipped. they state 15 to 20 days to arrive.


 
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paid on the 19th for mine and still at the "Payment Confirmed" status 🙁


 
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How much R&D goes into sunglasses FFS?


 
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I got my DX split jacket copies today, took exactly two weeks from ordering to delivery. Very pleased with them, comfy and pretty good quality. I've had many pairs of oakleys in the past but can no longer afford the expense of genuine oakley anymore. These cost me £12, if they last me a summer I will be a happy boy


 
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I'll give it another week and see if I get a reply to my email or if my order status changes ( or even if the glasses arrive).


 
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I got my DX split jacket copies today, took exactly two weeks from ordering to delivery. Very pleased with them, comfy and pretty good quality. I've had many pairs of oakleys in the past but can no longer afford the expense of genuine oakley anymore. These cost me £12, if they last me a summer I will be a happy boy

How close a copy are they?


 
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Without putting them next to some genuine ones its hard to say, but people at work were fooled into think they were real fairly easily


 
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I'll report once I get mine - I have genuine ones to compare against. I'm interested to see if they're the same (eg out of the same factory) or just a reasonable copy. I suspect the latter but who knows. I've noticed already that the screw that holds the jawbone pivot in is different (genuine ones have a torx bolt, the DX ones seen to have a small phillips screw).

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I'm the same. Paid on the 19th. Status still says "order confirmed" 🙁


 
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I've got a green/black and white sets on order. 8)


 
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Looks like bigger vent holes in the DX ones, or is it the way the pictures been taken?


 
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I actually met one of the senior managers of the Italian company that owns Oakley a couple of weeks ago. They are a fantastic family owned business who invest an enormous amount in R&D in Europe and the US. I know nobody gives a sh1t about anything anymore but buying crappy Chinese rip-offs hurts decent businesses and their employees.
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hmm really? there was a series about brands on bbc3 a while back, the factory that makes oakleys also makes a ton of other posh and not so posh glasses, they just programme in different specs (boom-tish) / tooling for the different brands, same production lines
but designed in the USA etc?
-nope designed by the same people as all the others in an admittedly sealed off section of the factory, it was in taiwan i think


 
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Well there you go. I'd decided to cancel my order as I didn't like how the status was just sitting at paid. If it had at least been moved to "processing" I'd have been happier or if they had emailed to say Out of Stock order will be fulfilled on re-stock but nowt.

So turn on laptop, open emails before anything else and would you not know it email to say most of order has shipped.

I'll report on landing.


 
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Hi,
For prescription lenses for Jawbone check out cilliary blue.They made me two sets of prescription lenses,one set clear,one set dark for a total cost of £80! Bargain! Oakley were trying 2 charge me £160 for one set.They make all different lenses 2! Highly recommended!
Thanx Max


 
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My DX copy split jackets have an anodised blue (to match colour scheme) torx screw like the pic of the genuine ones picture above, have fooled everybody who have seen them so far 🙂


 
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Looking at customer pics of the various "jawbones" on DX site it appears very random. Some have the Torx screw others a Phillips. I suspect it's whatever is to hand at the time.


 
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Pukka ones are never anodised though are they, irrespective of colour scheme it's always a silver screw on all the ones I've seen.


 
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well my first set of Faux-kleys arrived this AM. Ordered 17/3 arrived 16/4. Bit of a wait but hey.

Looks wise - certainly a massive improvement over the knock off you used to see on Oxford St/holiday resort stalls. Never actually seen Jawbones other than in display cabinets but look like the real ting! This 1st set to arrive are black frames with red pivot and ear socks. Screw is natural finish torx screw.

Very pleased with them so far but I do feel a little dirty. I'm a bit of a sado stickler to the rules type but sometimes even I will fight the power and do something anarchic!


 
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Mine arrived today - so that's essentially a month from ordering. From a distance (eg for anyone looking at them on someone wearing them) I don't think you could spot them as fakes.

Close up they're more plasticy in feel and the non-visible edges definitely aren't as neat (eg under the nose contact points when they're flipped up) but they're not bad especially considering the price. I'd say they're similar quality to what you'd be ok getting for £30-£40 otherwise but look better. The nose contact points aren't quite the same as genuine ones but again, similar enough to not be obvious.

pics below - the main thing that's not quite right is that one of the Oakley "O"s on the arm has paint that goes beyond the "O" (you can see it on the last pic)

The lenses seem ok - no obvious distortion but since I plan on fitting genuine oakley lenses that's not really something I'm too interested in. They come with: gold vented, yellow vented, grey (possibly mirrored) non-vented.

Oh, the jawbone pivot has a torx bolt like the genuine ones.

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The iridum-esque lenses that came with mine are really terrible. The colour changes pretty dramatically towards the edge of the lense. The other 2 lenses (yellow and plain grey) seem to be okay. I imagine I will end up using the yellow lenses most of time. Frames seem pretty good tho.


 
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I guess that's cheap glasses - poor consistency - the 'iridium' lenses on mine are fine - no colour change like you're describing. Maybe buy two pairs to increase your chances of a good set 🙂


 
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I bought 3 😛


 
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I drove home in them and I'm still alive so I guess they're OK 😀

further observations :

- The gold lenses are slightly yellower in the middle and bluer at the edges. not really noticeable unless you're looking for it but it is there. The very edge is also purpley. Again you'd only notice if looking for it.

- compared to a genuine jawbone, flicking the glasses into and out of line of sight, the movement/distortion is approx double on the fakes. That sounds bad but again, I didn't notice it while driving and since the genuine ones distort very little, it's still quite small.

- Genuine lenses only just fit in the fake frames. The genuine lenses are a fraction bigger and it's quite a squeeze to get them into the fakes and there is a 1mm ish gap once closed. There's no noticeable extra distortion though compared to the genuine frame. if you bought the fakes and a set of genuine lenses (40ish quid on classifieds) you could easily enough gently file them to fit properly though.

- you can't undo the "jawbone" on the genuine frame - or at least on mine as unscrewing the torx bolt broke it... superglue to the rescue 😕

so in summary the fakes are great for the money but don't imagine that they're the same as genuine ones.


 
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Good update on the glasses. Where is the original lens bigger? Is it in its depth or width? Would you be able to post some pics to show the 1mm gap?

Thanks


 
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Would you all buy a fake Ibis Mojo frame as well?


 
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Would you all buy a fake Ibis Mojo frame as well?

What a totally dumb comparison - fake Oakleys are not going to colapse while i'm riding them...


 
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God no, wouldn't even buy an original one, hideous looking frame!


 
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I got my fakely split jackets last week. Pretty disappointed really, but I guess you get what you pay for. They are pretty shoddy quality tructh be told. the yellow lens is pretty good, as is the greyish tint but the redish/orange one is pretty awful.

The fake jawbones I've seen are of slightly higher quality than my split jackets, but even they are quite obvious fakes if you know what to look for. I wonder if I just got a duff pair or if the splitjackets are just not as good.


 
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What a totally dumb comparison - fake Oakleys are not going to colapse while i'm riding them...

You misunderstand me. I'm not having a crack at anyone, I'm just intrigued about what it all says about branding and perceived values. But thanks for the gratuitous abuse anyway.

How about a fake Tag Heuer then?

I'm just kind of intrigued that somehow these things looking like Oakleys makes them more desirable than budget shades that are probably as well or better specced. Is it just the novelty thing of them looking to all intents and purposes like Oakleys? I guess I don't quite understand it.


 
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I like Oakley styling. I've never paid full price for any of mine over the years but I've certainly spent a fair bit over the years.

these fakelys have the style without the price. I don't think I'd have them as my only glasses but as spares or alternatives they seem fine.

to the previous question, genuine lenses are approx 1mm taller meaning the jawboned are really tight to lock in place.


 
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Same people who buy fake Oakley's probably buy pirate dvd's & blurays yet find a way to justify it 🙄


 
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safety glasses are great from builders merchants etc,they come with different lenses.superb!


 
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safety glasses are great from builders merchants etc,they come with different lenses.superb!

But make you look an idiot.

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Had 6 pairs of Oakleys in the past - still got some flak XLJ - picked a set of these up to see what they are like. If they are decent I will get some more. Dont you think the cheapo safety glasses will be made using the same child labour?

Will get some frokskin copies and Radar copies.


 
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So it's all a style thing then? People just want to look like they're wearing Oakleys?


 
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pretty much


 
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Same people who buy fake Oakley's probably buy pirate dvd's & blurays yet find a way to justify it

Only idiots buy pirate dvd's. Why would you pay when you can download it for free?


 
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in a sense but more to the point, something that has Oakley styling. I couldn't care less if it was clear that they were fakes.


 
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So it's all a style thing then? People just want to look like they're wearing Oakleys?

I needed a new pair of glasses for the bike. My last glasses cost £80 and have lasted well, I've got some casual oakleys and really like them.

At the minute I can't really afford to spend another £80 but I figured the shape of the oakleys would be good for the bike, nice and secure, good fit, and I could stick some genuine oakley lenses in them and get the excellent optical quality of oakleys all for about £45 as opposed to £145 - £235.

As it's turned out the quality of the ones I got is disappointing and I'm not sure they are worth putting decent lenses in. I'll keep these for the bike and save my pennies till I can afford the real thing.


 
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I've spent a lot of cash over the years on Oakleys (never paid full RRP), and I'll continue to buy them as they are the best sunglasses out there by far IMO.

However I'm tempted by these Fakelys to wear off road where I wouldn't worry about them getting covered in mud and sh!te, unlike a £100+ pair of genuine Oakleys.


 
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[i]What a totally dumb comparison - fake Oakleys are not going to colapse while i'm riding them... [/i]

You misunderstand me. I'm not having a crack at anyone, I'm just intrigued about what it all says about branding and perceived values. But thanks for the gratuitous abuse anyway.
How about a fake Tag Heuer then?

I'm just kind of intrigued that somehow these things looking like Oakleys makes them more desirable than budget shades that are probably as well or better specced. Is it just the novelty thing of them looking to all intents and purposes like Oakleys? I guess I don't quite understand it

Sorry - was a bit harsh on my part -
I've not bought any, but probably will.
Its not because I want everyone to think they're real (I ride in £7 Bolle safety specs at the moment) its more to do with the design of the frames, etc being good for riding in.
I usually hate fake stuff, and avoid it like the plague, so in answer to your question, no - I wouldn't buy a fake TAG, as I don't think it would do the job either aswell or better than the watch I already have - whereas the fake Oakleys might do the job better that my £7 safety specs.


 
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Would you all buy a fake Ibis Mojo frame as well?

Do you have a link?


 
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But make you look an idiot.

Do you honestly think safety glasses look worse than Oakleys?


 
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Do you honestly think safety glasses look worse than Oakleys?

Yes


 
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So it's all a style thing then? People just want to look like they're wearing Oakleys?

Dunno, I think Oakleys look stupid, especially the Jawbones, and I just bought some. I don't think anyone looks that cool when out mountain biking though tbh, especially not me.

Just jumping on the bandwagon really, but I lose/break sunglasses with alarming rapidity, and these seemed probably as good as any. 🙂


 
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I have a set of Jawbones and love them but I have just bought these as a second pair - Oakley Radar copies £16.99, bargin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200749926725?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


 
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Not that much of a bargain, those are DX ones, cost $13 delivered from china


 
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