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Which pair of suspended pants should I buy?
Which one will fit properly? I'm usually a 36 in Fox trousers with regular legs.
Which one will be actually waterproof?
Which one will last the longest?
They're bloody expensive for someone who usually buys whatever is half price in Go Outdoors or TK Maxx so I'd like them to last between a decade and forever if possible.
My thoughts on the Madison ones :
They feel pretty tough and well made, but I've only done half dozen or so rides in them so far as I'm not that frequent a rider.
They are comfortable to ride in
They fit great, I have 30 long, I'm 6'2 and 30" waist and am surprised to find they are long enough!
They are completely waterproof so far (as they bloody should be! But it's not a long test yet)
They give very good coverage, you can be completely filthy, get back to your start point, drop the dungarees off and hey presto, you're clean!!
You can fit chunky knee pads under them
Can get a bit sweaty under there, knee pads get a bit stinky!
There's a little pocket on the front bib, a bigger side pocket which will fit a phone and you can open a vent on the other side
Another positive vote for the Madisons - but also haven't tested them fully yet.
For me though, they are an ebike garment, think I'd get far too sweaty on the normal bike
Tbh you get sweaty in borats mankini mate
Not really what you're asking but I have the MT500 jacket, the newer one with the 40k waterproof/ breathable rating. I'm assuming the fabric is the same in the trousers.
The jacket has been pretty good so far in terms of keeping the water on the outside. The factory DWR didn't last all that well and it started wetting out pretty quickly but it's still waterproof. I've topped it up with some nikwax and give it a once over with an iron after washing and it's doing ok.
The fabric isn't warm. It's not actually a great jacket for winter because I find that I need another layer underneath it when it's below say, 5'c.
This is on an ebike though...
Based on the lack of warmth from the jacket, I'd have thought the trousers would breathe fairly well.
If i was going to buy either, which I am considering, is still go for the Madison over the Endura. The sizing from Madison works well for me and the quality of everything I have from them has been excellent (I have a lot). Endura on the other hand are pretty hit and miss on sizing and quality so that would steer me the other way personally. I only have the jacket because it was dirt cheap from CRC.
I should have said it'll be used on a regular bike, zero assistance, maximum sweat. I do have a couple of BPW days coming up.
Endura on the other hand are pretty hit and miss on sizing and quality so that would steer me the other way personally.
That's my previous experience with Endura but I was willing to give them another try due to people on here raving about them and swearing that they've improved.
I might just order both and send one back. That's what the Mrs does all the time, it just feels like a waste of everyone's time!
Using the Endura bibs and very impressed.
Gravel bike, working hard mostly off road and used in proper Cairngorms rain and snow.Used daily for last 3 weeks.
Breathability has been good with minimal condensation.
Super comfy, true to size, good venting, good side zips getting on/off. The vents are easy access even when moving.
No rustling or flapping noise and wearing next to skin so far down to -6.
Top half wearing merino base and Endura MT500 hard shell jacket.
Can't comment on the Madison version