[Closed] Do roady triples exist these days? For touring'n'stuff?

mtb triple or possibly a 26t inner

Sora still exists in triple.

mtb triple

And what roady shifter?

Dont think they ever existed

Dont think they ever existed

They have; it used to be possible to get everything up to Ultegra with a triple shifter

I've a Sora Tripple on my Vaya..
50-39-30 so not a touring tripple as is, but spotty dog imho and should get me up most things as I'm not planning on a round the world trip.
Sadly.

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Spa cycles Harrogate. any triple combo you want. TA and Stronglight.

Is Sora 9 or 10spd these days? And I assume it's better than it was, cos it used to be a bit rubbish,

Sugino make a compact+ which will go down to 24 inner ring.

i have a sora triple on my commuter, i've removed the outer ring as i never used it, it's ace.

So ace, that i've done the same thing on my road bike. My bottom gear is a 30/30, my top gear is a 39/11 - which i can spin comfortably up to 60kph. I'm aware that i could probably reproduce this range with a single ring up front, but i like that i can keep a nice chain line with a front mech...

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Is Sora 9 or 10spd these days? And I assume it's better than it was, cos it used to be a bit rubbish,

as far i'm aware, sora is still 9speed. The shifters were a bit rubbish about 10 years ago, with the funny little button to down-shift, but they got changed to a double-lever - i reckon 'new' Sora is great stuff.

If that's the case, how's one supposed to get a little twiddly hill-climbing gear? I can get 30/34 on an old 9spd set up, I don't see how I could get anything more than 34/34 on 'new' stuff.

My Sequoia has a 32/36 bottom gear, almost identical to your 30/34, on a double sub compact chainset (32/48)

48/11 is a higher top gear than any non-racer cyclist ever needs, I changed it for a 46 which still doesn't spin out until over 30mph.

Hmm, good to know.

So, if it's still 9spd, is it still compatible with 9spd MTB stuff? Cos this makes a nice big cassette possible.

Tiagra 4700 is available as a triple as well, and there is some old stock of the 5700 105 and 6700 ultegra kicking about, not quite as reliable as the later 11sp but still good.

Chainset wise as above, Sora, Tiagra or NOS for shimano, but there's plenty of triple from other manufacturers around in both square taper and external BB.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-tiagra-4703-triple-10-speed-crankset/rp-prod137766

My 2012 sram force is a double but the shifter is tripple.

IHN - Member
Hmm, good to know.

So, if it's still 9spd, is it still compatible with 9spd MTB stuff? Cos this makes a nice big cassette possible.

yup, i've got an old Xt rear mech on my commuter - working well with sora shifters.

I got some nos campy triple for my tourer from gb cycles.

Balls, Mines Tiagra, not Sora, as its 10spd..

Apologies..

Triple SRAM road shifter. Doubt it. Mech yes. However if only such a thing existed. Triple and hydraulic brakes would be great.
You need an Erickson gizmo. If anyone has one please sell it to me.

Its not all about just having the lowest gear.

Id rather a triple nd a close nit cassette than a double and a wide range cassette.

Nothing more infuriating than the wrong gear especially on a tourer wheree you want to tap out a rhythum.

I put a deore touring triple on my kona rove in place of the compact double with 9 speed claris 12-28

Had a comapct double where the hire co fitted a 12-36 on the back and it was terrible with holes between gears so big you could get another cassette in. Was up and down the gears all day looking for the right gear like a confused autobox.

You used to be able to get D-A triple back in the 9 speed days.

It's mad the lack of triples in the road world.
I love my 1X on the MTB, I was an early adopter before it was a thing on anything other than DH bikes.

Any bike which is to be used on the road needs a much bigger spread of gears though. I've just got a Sequoia and the gear range is barely passable even although I put a 40T cassette on in place of the 36.

So many cross bikes are being sold with 1X systems now. It's pants.

Sub-compact.

I believe the Tiagra and Sora triple will take an inner ring down to 26 teeth

But in general I think that the inability to choose the ratios you want with road groups sets is very poor

Sub-compact.

id buy a FSA SL-K Adventure Modular thing right now if i could find one (only seem to be OEM on a Felt road bikes)

[url= https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Mechanical_Groupsets/athena_triple/road ]https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Mechanical_Groupsets/athena_triple/road[/url]

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/shimano-105-5703-triple-10sp-chainset/rp-prod50447 if you want something slightly higher spec from shimano - though it does seem they've been dropped from 11s groups

Praxxis Works sub compact.

The Spa/Sugino/Stronglight cranks are superb things.

You can have pretty much any combination, in any length you like.
They're well made and I think they're so much better looking than new Shimano stuff.
🙂

Square taper, which is fine by me.
Had a double on the road bike for ages, now have a 24/36/48 triple.
Spot on.
No, of course I don't spin out in top gear, but I find descending is more stable with a much lower cadence than usual.
And I like going fast downhill.
🙂

Wife has the new 9 speed Sora.
Very smooth, lovely to use but it feels and is very plasticy.
And ugly.

I've got an Ultegra 10-speed triple on the road bike. Not that often that I need the granny ring, but it is nice to have it on the odd occasion when I do.

You used to be able to get D-A triple back in the 9 speed days.

And 10 speed days, you can pry my 7803's from my cold dead fingers!

The Spa/Sugino/Stronglight cranks are superb things.

I'll give another +1 for them*, the bare cranks are £20, functional, decent looking, come in multiple lengths, and can be had in 130 or 110BCD so chainring options from 24T -> 53T+ with everything in between. You just bolt on rings from Spa/Stronglight/TA, use a UN52 or posh ST BB according to taste and away you go for thousands of miles until the next set of rings.

For proper workhorse use there aren't many better or more flexible options, sure there's posh cranks form TA, Middleburn etc. but they really don't offer much more except blingyness.

* Have them on both audax bikes (Campag shifters, one 8 speed and one 10 sp but running 8sp with shimano mechs), and the a winter trainer (using 10sp 7803 STI)

Someone posted in the Fred Whittington thread about using a RoadLink and a medium cage Ultegra derailleur to give 50/34 11/40.

Compact chainsets are a lot cheaper than sub-compacts and a sub-compact only get you down to 30:32, which is a lot taller than the 34:40 the RL gives.

Plus you retain the 50:11 which is occasionally handy for fast touring with minimal luggage.

50:11 is alot less useful than having a close cassette ime.

If you can endure large gaps between gears on the road then it might be a good option but personally i find it horrible to ride.

I'm with him.
A triple can provide as wide as you need. Yes you can get that with a double or even a single but you get horrible gaps. Now that may not matter if you are either grinding up some slippery slope or thrashing down the other side( and don't get nasty) and have quite possibly grown up on an MTB where this sort of thing has become the norm or possibly even, you don't know any better.
To some one with a road back ground who prefers to maintain a constant cadence, a close ratio block makes sense. The front mech is about the simplest, most robust piece of kit on a bike. Set up properly they are fine. A double with a wide ranging block is a poor substitute if you need such ratios. Agreed not everyone does.
I do wonder, not taking much notice in such things, if something like a XTR Di set up could be linked to Ultegra drop and disc shifters, using the external extra buttons

Compact chainsets are a lot cheaper than sub-compacts and a sub-compact only get you down to 30:32, which is a lot taller than the 34:40 the RL gives.

The Spa cycles stuff is cheap and goes lower that 30 on the inner ring, should you wish...

But surely you use the sub compact with the same block as the compact thus lowering gears further.
A smaller set of chain rings does of course avoid having to use a whopping great rear sprocket and attendant super long rear mech. Not a great idea really.
Even over laden touring is easily done with a modern MTB triple with a 22\32\42 chain set and a 32 rear lowest gear. Bealach na Ba fully loaded proved that.
Every system has its place but if course availability is driven by manufacturers and fashion. I wonder which way round.

Compacts + wide range cassettes are the work of the devil and are a result of cyclists/cycling press/marketing being so disparaging about triples.

Mind you I was very happy to pick up an ultegra triple for £50 as they were so unfashionable 😀 married to an 11-28 or 11-26 cassette is perfect for the riding I do

+1 for spa cycles

Still amuses me to think that bitd I did a 4500 mile european tour with a 46/42t double plus "mega range" cassette all on 1" high pressure tyres, wearing dunlop greenflash trainers & rugby shorts, guess that either proves we all suffer from marketing hype of what we "need" or that I was more dafterer when I was young

Currently running a Stronglight 48/38/28 with 12-27 cassette on the Kaffenback with 9 speed Sora 3503 shifters. The Vaya has a modified 5703 crank with 50/39/26 and a 11-34 back end with 5703 (105) 10sp shifters. Might change the crank on this one to a stronglight 48/36/24 for my next tour.

you can still pick up 105 triple shifters (10speed)

[url] http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/au/en/shimano-105-5703-triple-sti-shifter-set/rp-prod50465 [/url]

I run these with a 48/36/26 and XT mechs edit and 11-34cassette

[url] http://www.wiggle.com.au/shimano-fc-m590-deore-9-speed-483626t-triple-chainset/ [/url]

needs a bit of careful adjustment on the cable tension on front mech so not great for a criterium but ok for gravel touring

if you look at any of the touring websites and any of the bikes that are branded touring by major (and minor) manufacturers then bar end shifters are still being used and its probably will only change if those who have grown old with STI expect it to - but this is the market that 1x and 2x 42 will satisfy .... so triples are niche! 🙂

things are changing fast and this article is 18months old but possibly worth a read:

[url] http://www.cyclingabout.com/wider-gear-range-road-shifters-gears-for-easier-hill-climbing/ [/url]

I run these with a 48/36/26 and XT mechs edit and 11-34cassette

9spd mech I assume?

^^ yep 10 speed sti, 9 speed mechs, 10 speed mtb cassette

edit guess might be getting at new XT 9speed mechs not available - fair comment missed that out of shopping list as existing ones done a lot of km with no threat of death - 2nd hand is pot luck though 🙁

Shimano have now got an XT, 10 speed touring triple with 48-36-26; combined with a fairly standard 11-32 this will give you a huge range of gears and no significant gaps. I've recently fitted one to the Mrs' Shand Stoater.

TSo that this thread as a record of all options I think its worth saying that SRAM 10 speed is still cross compatible between road and MTB. Meaning you can run MTB cranks from integrated shifters, the medium cage road mech' does upto 36 teeth anyway

MTB cranks and friction shifting an option?
I run (11-32) 9sp 770XT rear, & 10sp 780XT (triple) front on my Vaya - shifting via Dura-Ace 7700 bar-end shifters (& it works perfectly on friction mode).