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Hi Chaps,

If you *had* to have a 29er, as a do it all bike, what would you go with?

I'd pin my money on a Cotic Solaris, loved my BFe, until it tried to kill me on many occasions.

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Posted : 02/06/2013 9:00 pm
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Yelli.....oh yeah,I got one 8)


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:02 pm
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I went for a Genesis High Latitude 2x10. Really, really like it.

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Posted : 02/06/2013 9:04 pm
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Yeah probably the cotic for me, that one looks great. Although saying that I didnt find my BFe amazing, kinda dull to ride.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:05 pm
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Kinesis FF29


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:06 pm
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If I had some spare cash... a Quarterhorse.... I don't have much spare cash so it is probably going to be a Buzzard.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:08 pm
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Money no object...this
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Or I could mug DrJon


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:08 pm
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Bronto Reverend. Beautiful bike, meant to be amazing to ride.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:19 pm
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I am currently torn between the Solaris and FF29, That Solaris up top definitely helps lean me that way!


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:21 pm
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Steel, in a nice colour(Rack mounts, lightish, sprightly, EBB).
Internal hub gear.
Hope wheeled and braked.
Wide alt bars.
Sprightly seatpost.
Oh look, someone made some:
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Posted : 02/06/2013 9:22 pm
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I just piked up a stache 8 last week. I took it for its first outing this morning on Hexham Common and it was great. Being up to this point a 29er virgin I don't have much to compare it to but it flew round.

I managed to find one reduced also which helped somewhat. The 120mm fork and tighter frame means it is a bit more do it all. The only limitation is my skill.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:23 pm
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Trek Stache is looking really nice for the money.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:29 pm
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This. It'll singlespeed, race and get around most trails in the UK.
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And I can get two bottles on it.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:29 pm
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Happy with my Yelli Screamy, I don't think I'd sacrifice the fun it is for a bit more straight line speed, and it's no slouch anyhoo. It would do if I had to only have 1 bike.

IMO one has to give the Buzzard serious consideration, near identical geo to the Yelli but less than half the cost.

I had a Swift, very competent, versatile and VFM but it didn't release my inner grom in the same way.


 
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Nimble 9


 
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This is an absolute classic "everyone recommends what they own" thread.

Nimble 9

Ahem. http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/canfield-nimble-9-frame


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:46 pm
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2Souls QH.
Just awsum.

SS or geared it can do it all.

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Posted : 02/06/2013 9:50 pm
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Still a good frame.......who ever owns it......and they're the bestest ...sucker 😆


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 9:59 pm
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I think we've had this conversation before.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:09 pm
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Lol ...might have . 😉


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:14 pm
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Because they look a little different to me, I have trouble telling the frame size from those pics. Any in L/XL?

If i *had* to have one (nothing against the idea, but have no need for one yet) it might as well be the right size and that's a big large. Something playful and versatile that didn't feel awkward like some big bikes can.

That QH with it's low standover looks playful, with a touch of butch lesbian shopping bicycle 😀 Would something like that be the equivalent of an Evil Sov'd styled bike?


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:33 pm
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hey Mattoutandabout I wouldn't go recommending this
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with those forks on, they are way too long & too much travel, I should know, as it's mine! soon changed those forks


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:38 pm
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If you *had* to have a 29er, as a do it all bike, what would you go with?

In what sort of twisted, unsustainable, gutless world would you *have* to have a 29er as a do it all bike? I would rather take up ballet. Or go to yoga classes. Or get a degree in crochet. HTH.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:40 pm
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It is kind of like a butch lesbian but without the stubble and hairy legs.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:41 pm
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with a leather thong


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:43 pm
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Steel, as playful and rideable as a Yelli but not twice as heavy.

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No, it's not mine.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:44 pm
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No thong.

More of a pointy bra with studs kind of thing.

Edit.

Ohh look at you with your Sram 11 speed. 😉

How you finding it?

No2 edit.

Just read the it's not mine bit at the bottom.

Come on Martin you're dissapointing me now.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:45 pm
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Ohh look at you with you Sram 11 speed

That'd never work with me....I can only count to 10


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:51 pm
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I can't afford an 11 speed cassette.

I'll post pics as soon as I have mine


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:54 pm
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I can't afford an 11 speed cassette.

I bet you can. 😉


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:58 pm
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£200 plus an outrageously expensive free hub replacement for one measley gear. Hopefully there will be cheaper versions someday soon


 
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Whilst I'm currently having a dither over a change to a Quarterhorse or maybe a Surface, the Yelli Screamy is pretty hard to fault....

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Posted : 03/06/2013 7:49 am
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I keep thinking of getting an XCAD titanium version of my yelli made.Optimised for 140mm fork (lower bb slightly and steepen the seat angle a smidge),room to fit a 34/36t chainring (xx1 😀 ),chainstay mounted brake and reverb stealth routing.
But the short chainstays are very tricky to achieve and I can't afford to do it twice (or just buy a vertigo).


 
Posted : 03/06/2013 7:57 am
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Ti 29er.

Run with or without suspension
SS or Rohloff
I can swap ss for the rohloff hub in less than 15 minutes. And maybe 20-30mins for the forks. But only if I really need to have a geared HT - say for a trip to the Pyrenees etc.
The A-C varies between 450mm (Rigid) and 495mm (@80mm) to 535mm (@120mm) and so the bike has very different handling. I prefer it down at 450mm but Ive thrown it down the Pyrenees at 120mm on the 20mm axle rebas and it's been fine - but probably not as good handling as the current crop of 120mm travel frames out there.

But 99% of the time it's in SS rigid mode.
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This is just lovely.


 
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No do it all bike for me, however as a "first out of the shed" bike I'd like to give one of those Titus Ti Fireline Evo's a try.


 
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I'm getting a shiney 29er to use for everything it falls into the racey side of things but ill use it for popping to the shops and doing wheelies down the park aswell.


 
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Yeti Big Top... single speed option (if that's what you want, i don't!), light, fast, ace 8) my go to bike for 90% of my riding....

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Posted : 03/06/2013 9:21 am
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right so we're doing pikchers:

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my take:
* if you're seriously racing with a shot at podium, get a proper race bike. I have no idea what.
* if you're into chewing up miles, maybe a Swift, or a steel Niner
* for everything else, those 2-3 hour rides with your mates when the last 2% in pace isn't relevant, get something along the lines of a Yelli, Buzzard etc. The key numbers are 120mm fork, 68 degree head angle, 425mm chainstay.

The 'trailsy' HTs such as Solaris, FF29, (Fireline) come out as a bit of a compromise in my mind, the Yelli (et al) has the balls to be what it wants not what it thinks the market demands. It's still a perfectly good XC bike, I'd happily race it too as I'm not a podium contender, I enjoy riding it and I'm as quick on it as any other bike.


 
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SSStu - When are you going to bring that QH down to Devon then (or your Yelli for that matter). I'm beginning to get a bit 29er curious now there are some proper ones.


 
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The 'trailsy' HTs such as Solaris, FF29, (Fireline) come out as a bit of a compromise in my mind

Why?


 
Posted : 03/06/2013 10:24 am
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my take:

Yeah, I reckon a do it all is most likely something that you'd pick for some uppy downy have a go trail riding, but not something suitable for racing at any discipline (except maybe at a push gravity enduro) as all so massively compromised.

Not sure I'd pick a single speed as my do it all either.


 
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A do it all bike is going to be compromised, that's inevitable as its got to be competent at everything. A jack of all trades.


 
Posted : 03/06/2013 10:32 am
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I am steadily picking up parts for a 29er SS build for the winter, to mince around my local 1.5 - 2hr loop and not have to clean it very often.

Not got a frame lined up yet, hoping to get a go on a [url= http://www.stantonbikes.com/content/sherpa-853 ]Stanton Sherpa[/url] when the samples come in later this year.

Otherwise it might just be a Scandal, or....oh I dunno.

Those Yelli's look wrong with the bendy top tube, like it's been run into a tree. However, it interests me from mattg's pic above how far back they get the seat with the sloping seat tube. Looks almost right over the rear axle, compared to some other bikes. I wonder how that compares to other bikes.


 
Posted : 03/06/2013 10:55 am
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Birchy.

Did you not try the Yelli last time?

If your up this way visiting family you can borrow it or the QH for a couple of days.


 
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