[Closed] Deore m6100 12 speed

Good to see the 10 speed has 11-46 & 11speed 11-51, too

Opens up big range opportunity at budget end & ime deore waaay more robust than lower end (but still pricey) SRAM stuff- from GX down

I can see the 4 pot brakes becoming the new budget hero, £100 RRP each end.

the 4 pot deore brakes already are the budget hero, mt520/501 models, £120 ish for a set.

I’m just sold on the holographics.

It all looks pretty good. Cassette is NX level painfully heavy though.

I give it 4 months before the new ones are £70 quid an end, £140 a set. Much better levers with the new bar interface.

IMO deore 4 pots are the best bang for buck brake at the moment mine haven’t seemed to suffer from strange bite point syndrome as well.

That was until I replaced the original mt501 lever with a XT m8000 after a crash and it was terrible , found another 501 and it has been fine since.

It all looks pretty good. Cassette is NX level painfully heavy though.
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This

If I go 12 speed it’ll probably be XT cassette and shifter and deore or slx mech and chain.

12sp, 4-pot and integrated dropper lever? Yes please.
Time to start looking for microspline free hubs or slowly changing wheels.

Love the holographics 😎

They seem to have covered almost everything there, apart from the conspicuous omission of a 12sp cassette for those on HG freehubs.

I'm most interested in the weight of the wide-range 11sp cassette personally.

It all looks pretty good. Cassette is NX level painfully heavy though.

Conversely, (if you subscribe to the notion that GX is XT, NX is SLX, SX is deore) they've just undercut NX's gear range by a tier, and removed SX's reason to exist (SRAM now being the only ones supporting "shimano" freehubs with their main product line) assuming that Deore and SX will be about the same price to OEM.

Be interesting to see how it's priced, if the 10s cassete stays the same sort of price it's always been, then for the same manufacturing process is the 12 going to be 120% of the price? I.e. £40 or thereabouts? And assuming the Mechs and shifters are all much the same prices, is anyone going to be specking 10 or 11s as an OEM if it's only likely to save £10 and lose a lot of showroom appeal? Is the 10s going to be different spacing, or wil they all run the same chain and mech and just hobble the ratchet in the shifter?

One of the big things that surprised me was that the new deore hubs have got cartridge bearings in!

I guess it kinda makes sense, the people buying Deore bikes are probably more likely to be kids and those new to cycling. Which means no mechanical knowledge of how they work and how to maintain them, jet washes, and exasperation when the LBS says your wheels are trashed after 6 months. Be interesting to see whether they trickle that one upwards.

I like cup and cone hubs, but I'm weird. I bet there's a lot more people who are put off than would actively seek them out.

They seem to have covered almost everything there, apart from the conspicuous omission of a 12sp cassette for those on HG freehubs.

Omission, forced obsolescence or just too small a market?

Is suspect they just decided that the number of people running hubs sufficiently expensive they don't want to bin them and replace them yet also running deore,
Or old enough that there aren't MS free hubs available but still want to upgrade to the latest drive chain,
Or bothered enough to spend ~hundreds of £ to gain the performance of an extra gear, but not put off by the extra weight that comes with it.

The overlap of those three must be pretty small.

That said, could they not just have made a HG cassette and stuck an 11t on the end, then made a MS adapter sleeve and 10t. Although I suppose that would add more tot he cost.

Huzzah! Exactly what I've been waiting for. Well I was waiting for that Advent X but now I'll go deore wide range 11 speed on my xc bike that's currently 2x10 and replace the crappy slx brakes (wandering bite) on my Aeris with the 4 pots.

Huzzah!

Those brakes, and the 10 & 11 speed wide range cassettes, are going to be very popular.

Looks like an upgrade to 2x11 is on the cards for me given how reasonably priced it is 🙂

Could only see M8100 and m7100 on Shimano's website last night. Can anyone confirm if SLX and above will be exclusivly 12speed?

Can anyone confirm if SLX and above will be exclusivly 12speed?

There is already 11spd SLX, XT & XTR*

*well there are 2 versions of xtr, the M9000 and the M9100 with an M9110 cassette

As I couldnt see 8000 or 7000 or 6000 anymore on their website I was thinking that it might be discontinued.

edit. It is still there if i dont go in via the home page and just do a google search.

New Deore cassette CANNOT be as lardy ass as my SunRace 11-50T !!?

Not that I am gram counting though I am pondering mixing it up by wacking a 12speed deore shifter onto my 12spd SunRace kit mind

Then going to Deore 12spd cassette when needing to after the SR stuff wears out

As I couldnt see 8000 or 7000 or 6000 anymore on their website I was thinking that it might be discontinued.

edit. It is still there if i don't go in via the home page and just do a google search.

Do they actually keep making "old" groupsets? I presumed anything still on sale was just warehouse stock and that support for the previous generation groupsets was just in the form of the lower groupsets getting the trickle-down and being phased out later.

I'm impressed with everything but those horrible pad retainer pins on the caliper, surely it deserves an Allen head bolt,
I'd be tapping a thread and putting a nicer pin in.
Why do shimano do these little things to let down otherwise well thought out, good looking kit, it's like that philips head screw on XT levers, why.

Wiggle / CR have the 12 speed groupset in stock. Looks like only the 175mm cranks.

Do they actually keep making “old” groupsets? I presumed anything still on sale was just warehouse stock

I was thinking about this when I saw the new Deore article which prompted my question. I think you are right, otherwise they would have a very complicated set of production lines. Perhaps they over manufacture when in production, so that they have a large global supply for various markets to provide extended product support.