To a group of enthusiasts, yes. To everyone else? He’s just another cyclist.
Not sure I get what you mean
Do you think he's the only person riding the golfie, and if some non-enthusiast sees him riding and doesn't know who he is, they'll think it's ok to go ride there? There's plenty of non world champions riding the golfie at the moment
Expected to see video of Danny riding the golfie, will have to wait for the vlog from him to come out on his youtube channel
I think Danny just got woken up in the back of his camper by some angry sponsor. Ride now private/deleted. 🙂
Ah countrywide pandemic with thousands dead, think I fancy a camper van trip across the country with my family. Seems like a pretty idiotic idea.
It's a poor show. Here's all of Scotland being told we can't travel to the Tweed Valley to ride to stop everyone suddenly descending on the place, or even travel more than five miles to see friends or family, then this chump swans up for a big trip in his campervan. I really hope he's got the message and has headed home but I really doubt he has.
Not sure I get what you mean
The enthusiasts will have already made their decision to ride there or not, Danny going and posting it on Strava isn’t going to result in swarms more people heading there.
The enthusiasts will have already made their decision to ride there or not, Danny going and posting it on Strava isn’t going to result in swarms more people heading there.
You don't think the UK's top male downhiller unilaterally deciding to break the guidance might influence anyone else who rides a MTB?
Really?
then this chump swans up for a big trip in his campervan. I really hope he’s got the message and has headed home but I really doubt he has.
You do realise that professional athletes are exempted from the guidelines related to travel.
See here
And that it is fine to ride unmarked trails in the Tweed Valley. From a DMBinS facebook post - 'We have moved into Phase 1 of lockdown easing, as such, we can confirm that mountain bikers have the right to responsibly access unauthorised trails across Scotland.'
You don’t think the UK’s top male downhiller unilaterally deciding to break the guidance might influence anyone else who rides a MTB?
Really?
Not those that have already decided not to ride, no. I think we’ve been in this situation long enough now that everyone is either in one camp (follow the rules) or the other (don’t), so him doing that isn’t going to change much.
came here hopiing for a vid!
You do realise that professional athletes are exempted from the guidelines related to travel.
There's plenty of trails that are closer than 150 miles from where he lives, it's not like the Golfie is a unique environment. I could see it if he needed some specialist facility but they're just bike trails. He owns his own DH bike park to train in for goodness sake!
Also, if he has come in his campervan and is stopping overnight as people have suggested then that isn't an exemption in the guidelines for pro athletes and is against the rules.
That Sport Scotland advice seems to say yes you can travel to a training venue but it also states it doesn't supersede the government travel distance advice.
Its not totally clear but I'm guessing that step one on their plan is tied to phase one, step two to phase two etc..
Who cares about Scotlands "laws" anyway, they're only different to ours as a political point scoring mission by the SNP.
Aye we should be really all be ignoring the SNP and following blindly in the way of Boris who's done such a great job of minimising the UK deaths to date.
Everyone is fed up of the restrictions but nobody wants to re-enter lockdown. At the end of the day its not something that should have been advertised this training/holiday trip
Who cares about Scotlands “laws” anyway,
Scotland cares.
they’re only different to ours as a political point scoring mission by the SNP.
I'm fairly certain the SNP weren't around in the 12th century when the modern roots of Scot's law began
Thanks for that sharp and incisive political analysis re Scotland's laws. (if people had a better understanding of civics we might not be in the Brexit mess, as an aside).
Justice, Education and Health are all powers devolved to the Scottish Parliament who can set laws and regulations in these areas - all of which are key to the Covid-19 pandemic response.
You do realise that professional athletes are exempted from the guidelines related to travel.
See here
Did you read what you posted?
Yes elite athletes are allowed to travel to their training venue, there is then a fairly thorough summary of what a training venue is, how those venues should undertake risk assessments etc. before commencing training.
I accept an outdoor sport like mountain biking is perhaps a bit of a grey area and have no issue with local riders at the golfie, but I don't think there is any argument could be made that it was necessary to travel a couple of hundred miles to ride somewhere, instead of perhaps using the bike park down the road from your house that you are an owner of, or travelling anywhere else within England where the rules are different.
Massive fan of Danny - this is a brain fart on his part though.
Comments about hand wringers are laughable. Part of the 'I'm alright jack' mantra.
Who cares about Scotlands “laws” anyway, they’re only different to ours as a political point scoring mission by the SNP.
What a fanny
The point scoring is kinda necessary since none of the UK countries has done a great job with Covid and the SNP need to look like they have at least tried to keep people safe, even if it did start too late.
What a fanny
A nice succinct summary 🙂
Its a bad look on Danny Hart's part, if nothing else. Maybe his sponsors should have a word about social media posts and where he rides during a lockdown.
I'm sure hes been in constant contact with his sponsors. They have a business to run and so does he at the end of the day. I've been debating travelling to Scotland to do some riding, I'm not sure why its different there really, the virus doesnt recognise lines on a map so what's the issue? If the locals dont want to catch the virus they only need stay 2m apart from any visitor.
The death rate and the R rate up here are lower, because the laws are different. That's why they're staying different, because now Scotland has diverged from the English policy it is safer.
But it won't stay safer for long if a bunch of fannies drive up from England to ride the Golfie.
Frank - get the door!
or travelling anywhere else within England where the rules are different.
But staying away from home in a Campervan is still a no no in England unfortunately
The death rate and the R rate up here are lower, because the laws are different
Yet Dundee and Midlothian are battling it out with the Welsh valleys to be the worst affected places in the UK. There really isn't much difference between the Scottish and English lockdowns once you get past the hyperbole. Most folk in England are shit scared of CV like anywhere else, and that drives behaviour more than marginal policy differences.
What a bunch of snowflakes- bet none of you have left the house for three months. I suggest you get some fresh air and put your high horses away while you're on.
I have just spotted the nominative determinism above! Nice.
What a bunch of snowflakes
Predictable phraseology is predictable.
Airvent I've been shielding so until about two weeks ago I hadn't left the house. What exactly is your point?
I’m not sure why its different there really, the virus doesnt recognise lines on a map so what’s the issue? If the locals dont want to catch the virus they only need stay 2m apart from any visitor.
My point is if you put aside the rules, what harm has actually been caused by this action of Danny's? Out in a rural forest the chances of infecting anyone else are slim to none as has always been said by the scientists, you can put aside the whole argument of any example he may be setting because his job isnt to set an example it's to ride bikes. If others choose to see what he does and try and emulate it that's their choice and Danny isnt responsible for that.
Put the pitchforks away and get a life.
The point is he's put himself and his family in a campervan and gone on a jolly when he could have stayed at home. Selfish people think these rules don't apply to them and it'll only be them breaking the rules anyway so that won't matter, oh look some other selfish people are also breaking the rules, well I guess it's okay then. It's rule number 1 pure and simple, if you don't get that then not much point arguing is there.
Yet Dundee and Midlothian are battling it out with the Welsh valleys to be the worst affected places in the UK. There really isn’t much difference between the Scottish and English lockdowns once you get past the hyperbole. Most folk in England are shit scared of CV like anywhere else, and that drives behaviour more than marginal policy differences.
Tayside NHS has less than 5 people in hospital with Covid-19 so regardless how high their cummulative case total is it seems like it's on the retreat now. Stats here
What a bunch of snowflakes- bet none of you have left the house for three months. I suggest you get some fresh air and put your high horses away while you’re on.
I guess if you're one of the hard of understanding and putting an actual, reasoned point together is beyond you this kind of comment is about the best we can expect. Gold star for effort little man.
It's called collective action @airvent. Some people just aren't capable of it, or of understanding it.
That's why you don't set aside the rules or the spirit of them, because you care about other people. Society, community, collective.
I'm just a snowflake.
"Out in a rural forest the chances of infecting anyone else are slim "
Unless he teleported to and from home - and didn't need to use a toilet or fill his van with petrol at any point.
Some people just aren’t capable of it, or of understanding it.
I dunno, just go look at any of the other threads. Plenty of (Scottish) people discussing going for long rides in Scotland, bivying, feeling the need to drive somewhere for exercise etc.
Jumping up and down and saying someone from England is drawing attention to it just comes across as xenophobic.
There's a gnats chuff between the English and Scottish rules, by the sounds of this lunchtimes announcement yours are actually going to be less strict than ours. We're allowed a "social bubble" of one other house, north of the border the advice is going to be you can meet two other houses at the same time.
TISNAS, no one is saying the people in Scotland breaking the rules arent bad but this was a thread about Danny Hart specifically so people taking specifically about Danny Hart should come as no surprise.
I would say that someone going for a long ride or bivvy from their door is not as bad as driving all across the country in a van with your family.
He has a big self contained motorhome so could have been in that and not needed to stop at a services....
He has a big self contained motorhome so could have been in that and not needed to stop at a services….
So we're now onto exemptions based largely on wealth...
Something that size will still need fuel...
I'm not saying it's right, tbh i'm not really bothered, but just saying he might not have had to stop for a piss at a services. I could easily get from my house in Leeds to Golfie and back without refuelling so reckon he could probably do the same in his motorhome, its only 280 miles return from Redcar.
Edit: I don't think its right if its against the rules up there, and he should probably have stayed this side of the border until the rules change.
Utter cockwomble, thats to danny and airvent.
