Forum menu

[Closed] Cramp

Posts: 23340
Full Member
Topic starter
 
[#3194731]

I can get it bad after a few hours of riding.

How do you avoid it?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:05 am
Posts: 251
Full Member
 

I now use SIS in my drinks and wear Skins shorts.

I used to get it at anything over 2 hours riding. Fine now.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:06 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've tried all sorts and nothing helps. I just get on with it, if it gets too bad I get off and walk for a bit. Think I'm just prone to it or might be my meds I'm taking?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:13 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Some people (me) get it bad, others don't.

1+ Getting off and walking for a bit does help.

1+ Electrolytes too. Decathlon bags are inexpensive. Nuuns don't work for me but others swear by them.

Not boozing the night before is really beneficial!


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:15 am
 emsz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

get fitter ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:17 am
Posts: 23340
Full Member
Topic starter
 

get fitter

Cheeky git!

I'm guilty of not drinking enough water. I shall up my intake and, when required, wee in the bushes.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:20 am
 emsz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

where do you get cramp?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:36 am
Posts: 13512
Full Member
 

I'm told tonic water is quite good, the quinine in it is suposed to help.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:40 am
Posts: 23340
Full Member
Topic starter
 

where do you get cramp?

Quads.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:43 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Ive had similar problems and have found when doing a longer ride, over 50miles on the road or 3 plus hours on mtb, i use sis energy drink the day before as a carbo load (sipping throughout the day plus usual water intake) and then use sis eloctrolyte on the ride. Suplemented by energy gels, sis and torque (something about rhubarb and custard energy gels that is sooo appealing).


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 9:59 am
 emsz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

right then, big muscle used mostly for cycling, right? Don't you think it's odd that a "electrolyte imbalance" effects only that muscle? Maybe it's nothing to do with that, and everything to do with how strong that muscle is?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:05 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

It's most likely to be, as noted above, a lack of fitness. Some current thinking about cramp is that it is an expression of neuro-muscular fatigue, and is probably not really related to electrolytes.

The science is here; http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cramps-part-1-theories-and.html.

Basically, if you are low on electrolytes, how has it happened? you sweat out far more water than salts, so the concentration of salt in your body goes up, not down while exercising... Plus, if you are low on electrolytes, why do you only get cramp in the muscles you are using most, and not every muscle?

More training, not more salt.

Edit; fist bump to Emsz...


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:09 am
Posts: 23340
Full Member
Topic starter
 

I get it in my feet also when I'm asleep.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:09 am
 emsz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

So did my mum when she was pregnant with me pervy little brov!


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:18 am
Posts: 0
 

Used to get it in quads,hams and adductors, sometimes all at the same time. I'm a "salty sweater" - always loads of salty residue when sweat dries. Wondered if that's why I got it so bad?

Longer lycras when really cold helped, but ELETE additive helped completely settle this.

Having said that, now much less problem now I'm fitter so I'm sure thats part of it too.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:23 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[i]Used to get it in quads,hams and adductors, sometimes all at the same time. I'm a "salty sweater" - always loads of salty residue when sweat dries[/i]

If you read through the above link, you'll find that 'salty sweaters' are pretty much an invention to sell more electrolyte drink...


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:25 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

And yes cramp has decreased as fitness improved!!
But still like the carbo load.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:25 am
Posts: 1
Free Member
 

Cramp can be caused by muscle fatigue so Emsz cheeky comment might not be far off it ๐Ÿ™‚

Otherwise electrolytes and plenty of stretching should help.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:26 am
Posts: 6680
Free Member
 

I agree with what has been said above. Cramp is not an electrolyte issue if it's restricted to individual muscle groups. The type of cramp that is caused by electrolyte imbalance would affect muscles at random.

Theres been quite a lot of work done on the subject. There was an interesting blog post on cyclingtipsblog a while back if you search for it.

Unfortunately it is a fitness thing. I know I cramp up when I'm pushing too hard in a race. But equally I've cramped in 45 minutes riding a horse using muscles I didn't normally use (though, rising trot with out stirrups is just impossible for mortals surely).


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 12:32 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I agree with what has been said above. Cramp is not an electrolyte issue if it's restricted to individual muscle groups. The type of cramp that is caused by electrolyte imbalance would affect muscles at random.

Really ? Even if the major muscle group responsible for the activity is the one that cramps ?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 12:49 pm