[Closed] Could you get any more boring...?

Its not as dull as your post. Why have such a chip about discs? They are better, if you dont believe it fine, but your a moron. End of .

Just one thing you've missed from your argument-winter, v brakes are awful in wet muddy conditions,.doesn't matter how well set up they are, rims are too near the tires and the slurry runs under your pads and you might as well have no brakes, winter commuting on salty roads is also a reason why even the cheapest disc brakes will always be the choice of the experienced, real cyclist compared to Vs

Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.

Its sunny, it might not last for long . I strongly suggest you go for a ride ( somewhere flat ) and try to relax and unwind.

Not wishing to feed the Troll, but obviously missing the point that virtually nobody's left running V-brakes to moan about all of their problems, not to mention the fact it's only a very small minority with disc problems compared to the number of people actually using them.

You've got a point, there is a lot of pontificating about pointless and minor stuff on this forum. But hey, live and let live. That's kind of what a specialist forum is about.

FWIW I spend loads less time maintaining discs than I do rim brakes. Even V's used to be inconsistent and in time wore down your rims. So no, I won't be going back thanks very much. Not sure why there's a big chip on your shoulder regarding discs. They really are better in pretty much every aspect.

Someone needs to go back to trolling school. I mean put your back into it FFS - that effort would have been poor in 2001.

ro- I kind of like your rebel soul... you post your caustic ramblings here to shake things up a bit.. ruffle some feathers.. to provoke thought
You're a lone ranger fighting for sense, proportion and introspection..
and you maintain this black sheep persona with a certain eloquance and a small degree of penmanship..

but you're wrong about disc brakes my old fruit.. they are a godsend during the winter months if the trails are wet and muddy.. I took many many years to be persuaded to convert proclaiming the disc braking community fashion victims... but I was wrong.. as are you

1/10, very poor. Your rant is like a broken pencil, pointless.

Definitely nothing more boring than the op

Could you get any more boring...?

Just for you ro...
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...So you can brake 3m later into corner?...

i have vee's on my tourer
in the winter when it is wet and shitty, they are crap.
i rode my tourer offroad with knobblie tyres on this winter
the vee's were crap x 10.... 😆

even my crappist discs (bb5 are x10 better than the crappy vee's

i love discs so much that i am goona run shimano saint 200mm discs on all my bikes.

i buy saints cos i can afford to run them and they are the best discs available.

ro, you tight cheapskate ba5tardo, you stick with your crappy vee's...... 😆

So if discs are so hard to set up why have I never done anything to mine in 6 years apart from change the pads .No new fluid never had to bleed them or anything?
I run v brakes and canti's on some old bikes as well and they don't compare to disc's.I assume you will be searching for the old Victorian spoon brake that used the surface of your solid tyres to be totally retro soon?

I'm sorry why would i want to take up paragliding when i want to ride my bike 🙁

Ha, what is this, 2001? Perhaps next you'll be whining about how no-one needs 5 inches of travel, or maybe bitching about having to go 9-speed?

Ha, what is this, 2001? Perhaps next you'll be whining about how no-one needs 5 inches of travel, or maybe bitching about having to go 9-speed?

I like my single speed rigid bikes. But the Avid BB7s are much less faff than hydraulics.

V brakes are nasty though. All the mud collects around them in a great big wodge, and then you just grind inexorably to a halt and fall off into the gooey sticky sludgy mud, face first.

Bikes are sooooo unreliable and it's soooooo boring

Walking slowly is where it's at.

[Ro=troll]

What a wierd thing to do- get up on a Saturday and think "you know what, I need to have damned good troll about brakes". Got a quick hour bike ride in before breakie this morning - much more bracing. And the bike had discs, imagine how much better it would have been if I'd taken the canti clad cross?

Thats it......you are so right.....disks are evil......the Cooper S is getting converted to all round drums tonight.

V brakes killed my mother.

couldn't be bothered with discs for ages, ran V's, given that my well set up V's worked better than my mates cheap Discs, unless it was muddy or wet. I live in yorkshire where it is always muddy and wet (except at the moment) Then I bought a disc only frame and ran discs. that is all.

small degree of penmanship? SMALL? my writing earns me a fortune in asia! but then i guess english isn't their native language 🙁

it's simple, boys and girls. try getting your 5" travel super-forks and disc equipped piece of carbon crap sorted when some component fails half way up a pass into cambodia. no-one here rides that techno-nonsense because most of the asian riders actually ride mtb's in [i]mountains[/i], not ponce around on carefully manicured 'adventure trails' like you wanabees. get real. you're ipod-adventurers. a legend in your own weekend-breaks in the lakes.

stop posting on my thread and get back to daydreaming about lives you'll never lead; experiences you'll never touch.

kisses,

ro.

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I could write a better troll than that in my sleep. Yawn.

do you need a hug?

X

Well considering all the stuff is manufactrued in taiwan, you'll get a quick delivery of the needed sapre in cambodgia pretty quick 😀

I disagree, ro is a better than average troll. Problem is that he goes too far with the insults but that may just be reverse psychology.

I'd be interested to know where he actually posts from. Vietnam or perhaps a bedsit in Clapton ?

So ickle ro is living in Asia, who hasnt.

I have nothing to argue against that with other than this -

Buy brakes where the only thing you have to stress over is a bit of grit in the pads or rim wear

That'll be 2 things then.

Have to say when V brakes are properly set up they are very good...but discs are far better - more stopping power and therefore more control - can leave braking until the last minute and they do tend to work more consistently in all weathers. Not really had the same issues as others with brakes so I tend to find they are fit and forget...but I recall this sort of 'rant' when cantis were replaced by v brakes only this one seems to be about 8 years too late...

i'll take the hug. just no touching below the waist. well, not until we're on first name terms anyway.

forum admin can tell you where i post from. i freely invite them to ban me [i]today[/i] if i'm not being honest with you 🙂

and, oddly enough, it's very difficult to get bike bits out here. why that is i don't know, 'cos as someone ponted out it should be easy. weird, huh?

now, go away and have your weekend 'adventures'.

*snicker*

Are we supposed to care?

you're a pedant, dick... or perhaps you're a dick, pedant?

but you are correct. apologies 🙂

Mechanical discs (BB7) are a good compromise. If you get the cables lubed up well they feel almost as good as hydraulic, and stop just as well. Easier maintenance, just wind in the pads a little when they start to wear.

My brakes need bleeding and I'm tempted to just spend the bleed kit money on a rear BB7 (already have a front lying around doing nothing).

V brakes? Pfft. Pussy. 1977 Raleigh Strika with a pedal-back brake is where its at. 😡

they have MECHANICAL discs???

why did no-one tell me? do they work?

Seeing as I don't ride in Cambodia I reckon I should be fine. I have only ever replaced the pads on my discs. Better in mud. Rims don't wear out. A buckle in the wheel doesn't affect the brakes. They work better in the wet. They don't make that horrible scraping sound when it's muddy. I don't need to lube cables. Do I need to go on? Sorry ro, but you are talking bollocks.

do they work?

Well I could do endo's on mine and was 18 stone at the time, so I would say they have the power, yes 🙂 Just not quite as nice modulation/lever feel and a little flexier.

Takes me 10 minutes to bleed a brake, 5 minutes for a new set of pads every 6 months, never need adjusting otherwise.

V-brakes...let me think...all that agro constantly adjusting the pads so they sit centrally on the rim as they wear, having to 'toe in' the pads so the leading edge touches first to avoid juddering, having to make minute adjustments to the spring tension screws so one pad doesn't constantly rub on the rim, fraying inner cables, having to squeeze the arms together impossibly hard to disconnect the 'noodle' when you've recently fitted new pads and want to take the wheel out, the horrible grinding after you've ridden through a muddy puddle, the arms peeling the mud off the tyres until everything clogs solid, and that moment of sheer terror when you realise the brakes are wet and you need to slow down quick. And if you buckle a wheel, you have to ride home with the brake disconnected.

We've all lived with V Brakes, have you tried living with disc brakes? Cars/carts dispensed with wooden rim brakes a hundred years ago...move with the times?

I have a disk brake at the front and a V brake at the back so I'm constantly reminded as to which is best.

yet all I see is post after post after post where you're collectively whining like girlies about setting up, bleeding, pad-eating, juddering, which-rotor-size-for-Mont Blanc, disc brakes.

I think if the majority of people on here had v-brakes then you'd see post after post after post.....after post of complaing and general fettling queries, which is one more post and obviously more.
I dislike v-brakes as they turn to crap in the winter splodge around these parts and make the experience of enjoying a good days biking around the local woods less enjoyable for me. Apart from replacing pads I've had zero maintenance on my disc brakes in 2 years. The ones on my previous bike had a similar story as did the set previous to that.

Finally: disc brakes disc brakes disc brakes disc brakes. 😀

Don't anyone tell ro that my next bike with have drop bars, skinny tyres and hydraulic discs!!!

get back to daydreaming about lives you'll never lead; experiences you'll never touch.

lol. Yeah, because one day I too wish to sound like a sanctimonious gap year student. Don't worry mate, mummy's probably got a gold star all ready for her little soldier.

"try getting your 5" travel super-forks and disc equipped piece of carbon crap sorted when some component fails half way up a pass into cambodia. no-one here rides that techno-nonsense because most of the asian riders actually ride mtb's in mountains"

You could ride a road or touring bike 'in mountains' but it wouldn't make it a mountain bike. The design brief for (most*) 'MTB's would seem to be for better performance (and enjoyment) as a means to sell bikes, rather than ultimate reliability (that would 'seem' to where long distance touring bikes fit more?)

*apart from say rigid SS's/fixies

As you pointed out:
"it's very difficult to get bike bits out here"
Perhaps thats why they don't have 5" carbon FSers in the first place?

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V brakes run through pads quicker anyway don't they. So they probably do need more maintenance then discs. Also most discs are self adjusting, where as V brakes aren't.

V-brakes has its place-who told they were naff?

I won't use them as I want stopping power and reading the instructions of disc brakes-well it was a piece of cake but I am experienced with hydro brakes on cars and motorbikes.

It does make me wince reading about problem after problem but thats what the forum is for-to help each other too.

I think I went round one stw poster's house to show him how easy it is. Not everyone is Einstein.

V-brakes are crap in the wet or dented rims, descents etc I hate my roadbike brakes.

In dry summer xc races, V-brakes are ideal, everything else they are naff.

Cambodia?
You are gary glitter and I claim my £5.

Wanna be in my gang?
F*** no.

LOL @ Heathenwoods

ro you sound like an absolute f*cking w*nker!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like full on c*ck bag!!!

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LOL @ willy - finally someone said what everyone else is thinking. Well I was anyway. Good work fella [img] /obscene-smiley-1012.gif[/img]

ro, you are a pretentious idiot swayed by a notion of retro-chic. may i suggest you get some rod brakes? keep it reall!

there. tell me you don't feel better already.

you had an opportunity to shout in (almost) unison, to feed the mtb community spirit and to dish it out to the ignorant and the profane.

y'see, you DO need me. i'm the evil side of mountain biking, the horrid spotty child you wish would go away, the osama bin-laden to your international security forces.

having said all that, discs are still boring.

now, shall we talk about frame materials? i need another gold star from my mummy 🙂

If I was in a remote part of the world then I would go for simplicity ie cable brakes and basic thumbshifters .As I don't ride in Cambodia or anywhere else remote I don't need to be a luddite so I use modern kit (most of the time)

backhander...

if you want to make dumb comments, feel free, but fyi glitter was in a vietnamese jail, not cambodian, where he would still be if the bleeding-heart souls in the uk hadn't petitioned for his release. were you one of them?

and - correct me if i'm wrong - he now lives in the uk in considerable comfort and luxury. no compensation was paid to his victims by this multi-millionaire, despite a court order to do so. nor was that compensation order enforced by the british courts, despite assurances to the contrary.

yeah, garry glitter, a real giggle. and he's all yours, babe.

It's funny that on a cycling forum ro lists their interest as running not cycling which probably explains their view on cycling components maybe they know more about trainers and Ron Hills...?

Disc brakes – loads of power a control easy to modulate – vastly reduced stopping distance – low maintenance but technically complex (at least compared to most cycle components) – reliable in all weather conditions
V Brake very simple although can be a bit of a dark art to get set up right – powerful and controllable (once set up right) but not as effective for modulating – more physically demanding (arm pump on long technical downhill) – need more anticipation and longer braking distance – especially in the wet – need frequent adjustment and replacement pads (I used to go through a couple of rims, each end, a year when I commuted)
I ride both on a regular basis all year round and enjoy using both – off to change pads & adjust cables on the SS

if you want to make dumb comments, feel free, but fyi glitter was in a vietnamese jail, not cambodian,

where he would still be if the bleeding-heart souls in the uk hadn't petitioned for his release. were you one of them?

i'm sorry ro, idiot was a bit harsh. but please, stop thinking you are somehow enlightened, and everyone else is in denial - it jsut won't wash! for the record, i have cantilevers on one bike and the work fine. [b]for me[/b] 😆

EDIT = oh my, i take it all back, after that gary glitter rant. i feel embarressed for you 😳

What's 'Ro' short for then? Ron/Roland/Rob/Rocky...what?

I'm not arsed about brakes, I've gone over the bars with vees & discs!
What's 'Ro' short for then. (don't do the 'cos I've got little legs bollix either)

You should all know better than to feed trolls.