[Closed] Commuting near misses, who has had one recently?

Yesterday someone got halfway past me, then turned left. Fortunatly I was turning left as well, but he still got a:

TWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nearly kissed a bus drivers side window when he failed to stop approaching a round about a couple of weeks ago. Not a pleasant ride home that day.

CP

I avoid this sort of incident while commuting by riding on the pavement at all times.

RE: the op, if you were [i]approaching[/i] the second exit, but taking the third, why did you indicate you were peeling off left? I think the driver could be forgiven for thinking that you were taking the second exit

RE: the op, if you were approaching the second exit, but taking the third, why did you indicate you were peeling off left? I think the driver could be forgiven for thinking that you were taking the second exit

The second exit was split (entry and exit), I should have said i was approaching the 2nd entrance, i was way past the exit.

MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member
I avoid this sort of incident while commuting by riding on the pavement at all times.

And pay a fine...

Were you guys brightly clothed in yellow?

I find going slow on a roundabout is safer than going uber fast for some reason but near misses still happen and a kid got knock over near my house yesterday-I heard tyre screech and then the wack and people running.

Always be alert.

I had one this morning going past turning guy in ford focus did that thing where he starts pulling out without seeing then I flash past saying fuuuuck and he stalls!

Although he did come past and apologies which is a nice gesture.

Bus drivers are worst round my way either sit behind you making you anxious or hoon past with a foot to spare!

Still a miss is a miss!

As MTG says if you can use the pavement and it is not used by lots of people do so.

Milton Keynes is the home of dedicated cycle ways so I never touch the roads. I do a 7 mile ride with only dog walkers, cats and the occasional dumped shopping trolley to contend with....and like the earlier post if I nip into the old town for a sarnie I use the pavement 🙂

Really made me think afterwards if i could have done anything differently

Expect every single car (yes) to pull out in front of you and make arrangements assuming it's going to. Ie brake, make sure you've got swerving room, know what's around you etc.

Laborious, yes, but it really helps keep you rubber side down and helmet side up.

The second exit was split (entry and exit), I should have said i was approaching the 2nd entrance, i was way past the exit.

gotcha.

[i]"And pay a fine..."[/i]
Approaching a T junction, on Tuesday this week, with straight ahead or turn left options.
I want to go straight ahead, but the lights are on red.
I hop up on to the pavement and ride slowly forward round the corner, waiting for a gap in the oncoming traffic turning right in to the side road which I want to cross.
One of the cars turning right is a police car.
I avoid eye contact and start thinking about escape routes down narrow alleys or through the nearby park gates.
They drive straight past.
I cross the side road and drop back down on to the main road, well ahead of all the cars still stuck at the red light.

Another day, another RLJ.

Expect every single car (yes) to pull out in front of you and make arrangements assuming it's going to.

There's one round about on the outskirts of town that i have to do that when I'm in the car, I avoid it on my bike when ever possible.

not so much a near miss. i kind of saw it coming.

[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/close-shave ]Yes, last week. Nice result.[/url]

I'd been commuting from my house to the station for 10 months and not really had any bad incidents. I'm no longer commuting to the station (gave up my job, it was dull and not worth the travelling). But I went out on the bike into town on Monday for the first time in a week or two and had 3 near misses:

- Cross-roads - I was on the 'main' road. The traffic on the road crossing it [u]should[/u] give way. A bloke went straight across in front of me. Big handful of brake. At least this guy apologised.

- Turning right at traffic lights (30 seconds later) - Queue of traffic at red lights. Right lane is either for straight on or turning right. I nipped down the right side of the traffic checking the indicators of cars as I pass to make sure I'm not going to get clobbered. Car to my left turns right, nearly taking me out, he honks his horn and, naturally, winds down his window to tell me I'm a "f-ing idiot". I point out that he hadn't indicated so how could I have known he was turning. He then turns on his indicator (I saw him do it!) claiming it had been on and how could I have seen it as I'd already passed him. We exchange a few words (I managed to call him the names that I wanted to). He revs a bit, pulls infront of me and brakes hard, shouts some more abuse and zooms off. What a nice chap.

- Bus gate (2 minutes later) - Just cylced up the big hill near my house and going through a single-lane bus gate (big sign that clearly informs it's for buses, bikes and taxis [u]only[/u]). As I'm going through a daft wench comes towards me at speed assuming I'm going to get out of the way. I don't and she has to use her brakes. Oh my god, you wouldn't believe how shocked she was that she had to stop for me, a cyclist! I informed her that she wasn't a bus, taxi or a bike, to which she replied "So f-ing what you ****t!" How pleasant.

I do love Sheffield but I'm adamant that it has the worst drivers in the country.

(and breathe - good to get that off my chest)

pook you've taken to wearing a headcam ergo by STW rules that means your out for a fight and activley looking for trouble on the roads....apparently. I hate stuff like that bus driver does, knows your there but pulls out anyway. Re your mistake about roundabout entry/exits don't worry most of the countries drivers have not got a clue about the difference between the 2 either and only indicate after they've passed the [b]entrance[/b] before their exit (rather than indicating after the exit before theirs) cue many near misses.

I do love Sheffield but I'm adamant that it has the worst drivers in the country.

that'll be non locals trying to navigate the city it's by far the worst city to try and get in, out or through.

Daily occurance in Madrid, kind of makes it more fun, the bus that tried to push me of the road (3 times) last week wasn't funny, the woman who got off and called me cheeky as the bus driver was only trying to do his job, was!

I've had lots of near misses, but only hit once (got hit at a mini roundabout by some idiot in a hurry). To be fair he was just not paying attention and admitted it). Far scarier are the few times i have had near misses by drivers who purposely are out to scare & not back down from their own bad driving. Had a car drive straight at me on wrong side of road cos 'his lane' was full of parked cars. I bailed out onto the verge landing at the feet of a shocked dog walker 🙂 Another i was slow track standing at a junction turning right onto a main road. Car turning right onto the road i was exiting decided to cut the corner only to find me in his way. Duh! so he just sounded his horn angrilly untill i cleared the road 🙂 Have to laugh faced with such idiots and swear, but i'm not going to be a victim or road rage too. Stay alert and philosophical.

Just lots of people going too fast, too close. Get it nearly every single day. I've given up shouting and swearing, and come to terms with the fact that lots of drivers are [s]****in retards[/s] educationally disadvantaged.
On the bad days I can do a long cut round the canal towpath, it means dodging dog eggs, but avoids the worst / busiest bits.

Re your mistake about roundabout entry/exits

Every other day is a close miss.

I encountered a lunatic the other day who tried three times to stop me by boxing me in with his 4x4, then when he eventually succeeded (traffic coming the other way, so I couldn't overtake him again) he got out and proceeded to give me lots of "helpful advice" that I was clearly going to die if I didn't ride right on the edge of the road. He seemed to genuinely believe what he was saying, despite saying that he was a regular motorcyclist - I suspect he's one of the people you hear about on the news after a sunny Sunday afternoon if that's his idea of how to stay safe on the road.

All in all i've found sheffield not to be too bad if you're careful. You get some proper idiots about, but they seem to have a natural focus point of the university ring road roundabout and the M1 roundabout next to Meadowhall
Almost got smooshed by a truck pulling up to a set of lights i was waiting at on the M1 roundabout yesterday. Only stopped when he heard me shouting "fuuuuuuuuuccckkkk!" and then looked at me as though it was my fault! Those who drive for a living are usually the real dangers!

I feel like learning the technique for rolling onto the bonnet of a car and into the window - so when folk cut it fine I can ride into them. Give them the shock of their lives.

Hora, agreed, every day is a close miss.

Usually with a donkey or a small child shouting "you you you" or "faranj"!

Oh, the joy of commuting in Ethiopia!

most of my near misses are with pedestrians, but that's probably because I try and put the shits up them by shooting past very close to them and shouting 'nneeeeoooowwwwm' when they step out without looking.
I'm such a child...

and its the misses you don't know about that are the real worry...

When a ped wanders across the road infront of me staring at their phone or something, I maintain speed and when I am right behind their head I say 'heads up' in a normal voice. Usually scares the living crap out of them, and hopefully teaches them a lesson.

molgrips - Member

I feel like learning the technique for rolling onto the bonnet of a car and into the window - so when folk cut it fine I can ride into them. Give them the shock of their lives.

indeed. and roll around in 'agony' holding leg like a footballer, whilst "accidentally" scratching the paintwork with cleats...

my most common one, last used on mother blissfully wheeling her kid across road in pushchair without looking is a loud "WAKEY WAKEY!" on passing

The two statements that sum it all up for me:

I'm not going to be a victim or road rage too. Stay alert and philosophical.

And

Those who drive for a living are usually the real dangers!

I've been doing far too much driving for work lately (up and down motorways in rental cars)…
It’s worrying just how piss poor some drivers general awareness and “Need for Speed” is, I’m doing my best to resist becoming the same, Driving in the UK seems to have developed a “culture” of “Sod everyone else, I’m the F’ing Daddy!”

organic355 - i had that a few years ago, sadly i couldnt pedal quick enough and the clipped my back wheel, spun me round and i got flung to the ground. Ouch.

I had a bus 3ft off my back wheel earlier this week, just sat there making no attempt to overtake (there was room) and it pissed me right off so i sent an email to the bus company... i only went and got a reply! cant quite believe it, they are actually pursuing the matter with the driver in question, im shocked (tho i admit its unlikely to achieve anything).

Watching some vids of near misses online, I've found the quite hilarious 'MagnaTom', who is arguably doing a service raising awareness of the perils we face on the roads albeit in a smirk inducing manner.... look him up

How ironic- Deansgate I just had a woman try to undertake a car turning right and rush into my lane- thankfully you can spot this type 😆

With a cyclist. South African on a 26" jumpy bike of some sort (saddle set low). He spent some time pulling a wheelie down a bus lane some way ahead of me. We set off from the next traffic lights with him standing up and stomping on the pedals, me cruising behind him. When he notices me he slams the brakes on and momentarily locks up his back wheel. I was sharp enough to brake but I mean why?

A mate had it done to him by some Fakenger the other week. Same deal - he was following behind him when the idiot decides he's too close and locks up his back wheel. Said mate ended on the ground with a load of road rash. Asked why the Fakenger replied "i've had a bad day". Nice.

I guess they really do think people are drafting them Tour De France style?

The only thing you can do in that situation is pull level, stay for a while- let him start to wind up and 'drag race you' then just calmly pull away.

It only works though if you are on a fixie/singlespeeded track bike and they are on something with lots of gears or disadvantaged in some other way! Then when they catch you at the lights and they blast through the red (smile) 🙂

In Manchester theres a lad on a black Cannondale who drag raced me once- I beat him but I was breathing out of my ass trying to look 'normal' when he finally caught up at the lights!

I'm not claiming I'm entirely not at fault with this, but it meets the title criteria by being a near-miss on my commute.

From commuting for a fair few years now I've got quite good at anticipating the lights. And now that the Glasgow schools are back the rush-hour roads are all clogged up again. Yesterday morning two lanes of traffic are queued back from traffic lights, I'm slowly filtering up the middle watching for the opposite-direction lights changing to red. Those lights change, I speed up, and time it perfectly to cross the line, fast, just mere millimoments after it's turned green. Just as a *-* * ****** in a Range Rover goes through the red. If I hadn't stopped he'd have side-swiped me at easily 30+ mph, as it was I still almost ran into the side of him. I loudly implied he partook in acts of a homosexual nature, then carried on, letting the adrenaline help me finish the rest of the journey faster than usual.

Commuting on the roads through Bristol in rush hour isn't too bad, as most of the cars are stationary. But the pedestrians in cycle-lanes are effing infuriating (Queen's Square is especially bad). Oblivious to everything in their ipod-muted morning bubble.

not wanting to rouse the irony police; but what mistake?

Deansgate I just had a woman try to undertake a car turning right and rush into my lane

Thet don't call it "amber gambler" for nothing Sor, some cockmonkey running a red can seriously screw up the rythmn of your ride (I time my run at lights too BTW not having a go but it is risky)

To be fair I don't get all that many near misses - although I count a near miss as "another coat of paint and I'd have had 'im" rather than the usual "people driving like pillocks" incidents.

That said my most recent near miss was with another cyclist - 2 abreast on a cyclepath chatting to his mate, until I shouted "CHOOSE A SIDE PLEASE"

and I always seem to get more incidents when I've been off the bike for the while and am less chilled / less observant / more optimistic about others driving skillz.

Those lights change, I speed up, and time it perfectly to cross the line, fast, just mere millimoments after it's turned green

V v bad idea, as you found out! I never do this - car or bike.

MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member

Approaching a T junction, on Tuesday this week, with straight ahead or turn left options.
I want to go straight ahead, but the lights are on red.
I hop up on to the pavement and ride slowly forward round the corner, waiting for a gap in the oncoming traffic turning right in to the side road which I want to cross.

Another day, another RLJ.

Why oh why do folk do this? Saves about 5 seconds and pisses all the drivers right off?

V v bad idea, as you found out!

True, but it can usually save me a few seconds so is worth the risk. (Yes, I'm trying to make that sound ironic, but have never really been sure I had the right understanding of the word since what's-her-name had that song out.)

Those who drive for a living are usually the real dangers!

Amen to that. Minicab drivers are the bane of my life round here.

Dropping anchor in the middle of the road without warning, attempting U-turns like they're a black cab rather than a Vecra, stopping for a chat with their mate who's driving in the opposite direction, cutting corners across the opposite carriageway turning right, and heaven forbid they should ever indicate. You take your life in your hands every time you go out, on two wheels or four.

3 in one day a few weeks back. My deadliest area is near the nursery in the morning, some parents really need to review their priorities.

Its numpty season in Edinburgh at the moment. I could have got dozens of tourists on a run thru town this afternoon.

On car classic. Riding up a road ( north bridge going south)that is a bus / cycle lane on the left and a car lane on the right. Approaching a junction where the right hand lane is turn right only and the left is straight ahead all traffic but before the end of the bus lane. The car alongside me decides its moving into the bus lane where I am. I saw it was going to happen so not really a near miss, I shout at them and they stay in the right lane but look very angry at me and make all the hand gestures! No indicators and why do they think they have the right to change lanes without indicating or giving way to traffic already in that lane? I leave them miles behind me in the next snarl up

Cynic - al - I have no idea why. What difference does it make going on the pavement - you don't suddenly become a pedestrian. It just pisses everyone off and saves so little time

I will occasionally go thru red lights a bit early or late slowly and carefully if it makes life safer for me but I don't do it for my convenience nor do I go on pavements

V v bad idea, as you found out!

Why oh why do folk do this? Saves about 5 seconds and pisses all the drivers right off?

*I've not got massive issues with RLJing, when cyclist do it atleast they tend to look before they leap (the ones who don't look don't last long), whereas when cars do it they just pile through cos "it's only just red" i.e. sors experience. But if your going to RLJ mtfu and do it don't sneak round on the pavement endangering peds.

Pretty much every time I ride to work with greater of lesser levels of possible injury 😯

Does actually being hit count? Deliberately rear ended while stationary at lights last week. Two good witnesses, one fubared rear wheel and it looks like my frame is bent too. Lodged a report with the local constabulary. Phoning them every day for an update of progress. Not a happy camper! 👿

Must admit I'll use the pavements if there's no cycle lanes nowadays.

When I did stick to the road I was taken out by a car who came too close to the pavement leaving me in hospital with a smashed up ankle taking months to recover. Still got the plates and pins left in now.

I don't get in anyone's way and go at walking pace if pedestrians could be around.

What does annoy me is the pedestrians oblivious to the fact there is a cycle lane and walk in it when they have their own lane right next to it.

Had one yesterday.

Heading down a dual carriageway that, as it approaches the crossroads becomes three lanes as the left-most lane becomes a left turn-only feeder lane.
I was heading straight on through the cross roads so stayed in the (original) left hand lane. Motorists have a nasty tendency to try to overtake then turn onto the left-hand feeder lane so i always sit well out across the lane going down the hill to dissuade them from doing this.
Yesterday however, the traffic was fairly heavy in my lane so this complete buffoon decided to speed down the right hand lane, see what appears to be a gap in the left hand traffic & pull across in order to get into the feeder lane.
Of course, muggins here happens to be occupying that particular moving space (traffic behind me being very courteous).
The buffoon sees me & instead of stopping beeps his horn and continues to try to drive through me. I had to stop and let him otherwise he would have driven over me i believe.
Managed to come alongside him at the lights & shove my face very close to his through his open window whilst proclaiming my thoughts on his parentage, his sexuality & the likely fact his children were in fact sired by a mentally-retarded blue-assed baboon 😆

last week i had a prety bad one when i was dominating my lane doing a sizable speed to not hold up traffic on a 3 lane roundabout some **** decides he wants to float over to my lane with no looking no signal needless to say he had a lovley cleat goug down his door or i would of been off for sure he wasent happy but admited falt and damage after a red light rant so was all good in the end.

Climbing out of the saddle on some singletrack yesterday. Head down, Foals on the i-pod, glanced up to see a ****in massive irish wolfhounds arse about a foot in front! Poor thing seemed to be scared of bikes as it was motionless and remained so until it's owner called it.

Much as I like commuting on the road, thru the woods is better 🙂 All of my most recent near misses (and accidents, come to think of it) involved trees. They might be solid, but at least they aren't trying to hurt you....

All of you people using the pavement should get some cycle training and learn how to ride a bike in traffic with confidence and competence. You maybe the raddess off road rider but it's a very different skill.

Not a recent near miss, nor even a near miss in fact but I was taken out on a roundabout by a guy driving an old VW camper . I just saw it coming and managed to get my nearside leg out of the way behind the frame . Just as well cause he hit me at about 20mph and launched me about 20ft across the road onto the middle of the roundabout. When I managed to pick myself up, the driver wandered over and enquired that all time classic, 'Are you alright'. The reply is not printable but 'no' was the short answer.
Almost felt sorry for him he, got charged with careless driving and his insurance got spanked for a £2000 bike for me.
And that's when I took up mountain biking, as you dont get many roundabouts in the hills.
I managed to escape the incident with a few cuts and bruises hate to think what it would have been like if I didn't get my leg out the way.

[i]"All of you people using the pavement..."[/i]
That'll be me then.
[i]"...should get some cycle training and learn how to ride a bike in traffic with confidence and competence"[/i]

2500 cyclists and pedestrians killed or seriously injured a year by motorists.
It's not a matter of training cyclists.

Had a few this past week, I blame the hi-viz - drivers can see what they're aiming at now! Two blatant ones were just outside my office on the hospital campus.

I was victim of a very very odd incident a few weeks ago.

I cycle in along a quiet country road (Boglieburn Road, Melrose if you know it). I see the same walkers and cyclists every day, the road is closed to car traffic for some of its length. I was cycling up the hill when a cyclist coming the other way slowly moved across the road towards me. I assumed it was someone I knew but he kept coming, at speed directly towards me until I had to dive off the road ending up in a heap in the bushes! He just carried on down the hill like nothing had happened.

Never seen him before or since. Freaked me out a little bit to be honest.

The Hi-Viz also means that IF you have a close miss the driver in question is VERY worrying. I've had one who I asked 'have you had a heavy night/been drinking' - girl thought I was taking the piss but I was very serious. She screwed her face up and told me what to do with myself and what she'd do to me.

Gobsmacked at the side of the road. Literally. I remember saying 'charming' as she shot off in her Clio.

Very near miss a couple of weeks ago although not when commuting. Some prick in a "souped up" civic didn't look before pulling out of a junction. Luckily they braked in time and I was able to swerve into the oncoming lane (empty) so a very near miss. The annoying thing is they beeped and angrily wheel-spun away as though it was my fault.

I had one yesterday in Leyton, a woman driving with a burka pulls out on me as im riding down the cyle lane and even though I nearly flew over her bonnet she failed to acknowledge i was even there. Man these nutters should not be be driving with burkas on. c#nts im still angry

i comute over the quantocks on my roadie, biggest risk is probably hitting a rabbit or sheep, probably see about 10 cars each time i commute,

MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member

2500 cyclists and pedestrians killed or seriously injured a year by motorists.
It's not a matter of training cyclists.

Eh? How is the move you described above about safety?

joolsc - Member
Must admit I'll use the pavements if there's no cycle lanes nowadays.

What does annoy me is the pedestrians oblivious to the fact there is a cycle lane and walk in it when they have their own lane right next to it.

Oh teh IRONING!

Nothing intrinsically wrong with using a pavement IMO, indeed many round here are 'dual use' cyclepaths/footways anyway.

I stick to the road purely because its quicker and you're not crossing peoples driveways, but if it was a busy 60mph limit road i'd ride on the pavement.

No training is going to stop some idiot driving into the back of you.

Yep, but on my evening ride (not commute). Last night: on a residential road a white A3 decided to go for a gap that was barely there and flew past me with a couple of inches to spare; and then a pizza delivery boy decided to turn across my lane at a set of traffic lights without giving any notice which forced me to anchor on.

IME for every tw4t that tries to save a few seconds by being a d1ck (or generally drives like a d1ck), there are thankfully loads more considerate drivers who show lots of patience/give loads of room when overtaking/etc.

Defensive riding makes you safer.

Some of the near miss incidents described really make me wonder as to the skills of the riders. In the one I describe because of my road positioning I had an escape route, because I was anticipating I saw the car coming. Considering I ride a lot in the city I get very few scary ones - because I ride defensively and anticipate so see them coming - turning a near miss into mere irritation at numpties.

Many many cyclists are very lacking in road riding skills.

Riding on pavements is hardly ever justified.

A large pedestrian in Leeds city centre a few weeks ago decided that I was a bit close to them as they stepped out into the road and hadn't seen me coming. [I did see what he was about to do, but I would have been in a pothole if I'd veered any further out into the road so I held my line].

He grabbed me with both hands and pushed me across the road. Thanks to my amazing skills* on a road bike I managed not to fall off (but it was very sketchy).

Then he shouts "get some f***ing lights". Which could have made sense if it wasn't just after 3pm on a sunny summers day. I'm not a bloody BMW/A4 driver you twunt.

So I called him a 'fat lad' or more offensive words to that effect. But by the time I had slowed and turned around he had disappeared into a doorway. Shame, as there was a copper on patrol very close by.

TJ has a point, at least IME. I too ride defensively if I can either see or sense something that could go wrong, e.g. a car accelerating from behind in a way that tells me he ain't gonna stop until he's made the gap (or whatever). But I also ride "ascertively" by widening my presence on the road if I feel it's right to make myself "bigger" if you know what I mean, e.g. I sense the car(s) behind want to overtake near the top of a long twisty climb with a blind corner up ahead, so by taking up the road they "can't" go anywhere and have to hold back.

EDIT: I will happily ride on the pavement if I deem it measurable safer. Always give way to others too (unless they're being a pr1ck).

In the last couple of weeks I’ve had some young muppet’s in a corsa pull out on me as the car coming in the other direction had ‘flashed’ him out, he stopped mid lanes, and I applied brakes and brown pants but squeezed through the gap. On Monday when needing to turn right off a fairly busy road, I indicated and moved across, behind me was a white van who slowed to allow me across, as I did my final look over my shoulder before crossing and land rover had decided he wasn’t waiting and he overtook the van and myself at speed. Last night on my way home in the rain, I was passing a line of about 25 parked cars so the car behind me was moving at my pace as traffic coming the other way meant they couldn’t pass. After the parked cars as I tucked back in, the car behind passed me and then immediately indicated and braked to pull in at the side of the road. The move was so sudden I wouldn’t have been able to stop, so I moved to go round the car, at the same time the car behind us both skidded and locked up as they clearly hadn’t been paying attention to what either of us in front was doing. In the last few months I have gone from irregular shift work to mainly doing 9-5’s and the move to commuting at the rush hour times has certainly made it a more engaging experience.

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saw 2 folks on the deck yesterday morning after non misses on way into Glasgow (1 in Castlemilk, one at Gorbals). 😥

I got to the lights and they were on green today, so I pulled over and waited for them to go red before riding through, as a matter of principle.