week offroad tour.
f/s comfort
h/tail efficency.
what would you choose?
Depends on the FS. I'd argue decent XC fs bikes are more efficient. And some hardtails are inefficient due to angles etc.
Where you go Ton? & when?
depends no length of rides and terrain.
And some hardtails are inefficient due to angles etc.
WTF?
week offroad tour from roybrige.......staying in aviemore, pitlochry, killin, kingshouse hotel, fort william.
1st week in september.
got a good route taking in bealach dubh, loch ericht, either glen tromie/feshie or the lairig, glen/loch lyon and some whw too.
What about Reliability / Ease of maintenance ? FS or HT ?
Pity, we'll be up that way on't 23rd Augoost for 3 nights. Have fun. 😛
[i]And some hardtails are inefficient due to angles etc.[/i]
Right. 🙄
i always think more time is lost on a bike that you cant climb on, than is lost on a bike that descends just ok, ie h/tail.
so i think h/tail 29r will do.
Fully rigid FTW.
I posted this a minute ago on a different thread.
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TOURING ON A RIGID BIKE WHATEVER NEXT
Sending a man to the moon? 😀
nah posting up about it online
comfort.
Anyone who says anything different has never been touring.
And some hardtails are inefficient due to angles etc.Right.
I know I'd rather do a multi-day ride on my XC setup trance about 25lbs, compared to say a dialled alpine which requires the post right up for me to pedal right, weighs 10lb more etc.
It's not clearcut that hardtails are more efficient. Especially if you're tall, burlier HTs tend not to come in big enough sizes to work as a compromise.
A full week off road you say, Hmmm.
Could I propose the argument that in this particular context Comfort could actually constitute efficiency, after a few day you may find yourself more fatigued by the HT, FS may bob a bit more but also reduce overall fatigue as you get less of a pounding...
Lost time due to general fatigue at the end of the day on an HT could actually be more than battling the bounce on every up... assumin your FS is not too caddillac like...
IA - fair enough - nowt to do with angles though.
cookeaa seconded.
stabalisers on the FS and tow it using the HT.....
yes, i know im a genius.
I'd take the HT - less to break, lighter so less tiring, easier to stick pannier on if you need them. A 29er should be comfy anyway.
29er ht for the win !
FS is ok , but 29ers rock !
I get back pain on hardtails if I use them on longer rides as I tend to stay seated more.
You can only take so many kicks in the ar5e before it starts hurting.
Full suss for me then...........
"IA - fair enough - nowt to do with angles though."
It is to do with angles too though. E.g. if I had a slack/low HT say with similar angles to my DH bike.
The saddle could go high enough, and it would have a longer TT than my XC bike say, but I'd be sat far too far back for it to be a sensible position. Angles have a lot to do with how a bike rides up hills etc.