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Used my new P7 torch for the first time last night (basically it was brilliant for the money) and am now wondering whether I should fully discharge the 18650 cell(s) before charging them back up to help with capacity.
Any thoughts?


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 3:04 pm
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Don't think it matters with LiIon. You shouldn't store them fully charged AFAIK, keeping them in the fridge will also help.


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 3:05 pm
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Fully discharging Lion batteries is a *BAD* idea. Assuming you have 'protected' cell's it'll never actually occur, but if you brought unprotected cells, it'll break them (possibly flip the polority).

The fridge thing applied to NiCads. Li-Ions don't have any memory. In fact, it's better to charge them from half full.


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 3:18 pm
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Just had a better look and Woody you're right....... full discharges are actually not good and frequent partial discharges/charges are better. The bit about the fridge is also right ๐Ÿ™‚

Cheers.


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 3:20 pm
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Lumicycle recommentd NOT discharging Li-Ions completely, storing them in the fridge, but not the freezer and storing them at 40% charge. Apart from timing this, I am not sure how you can tell that a battery is at 40% though.


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 3:23 pm
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Posted : 30/01/2009 4:47 pm
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Stumpy:
As the 18650 is a 3.7v cell I would have thought it would be 3.7/10x4 = 1.48v
BUT on my protected Trustfires is says that the cutoff discharge level is 2.75v..... so it would never get to 1.48v.
So I dunno ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 4:53 pm
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As the 18650 is a 3.7v cell I would have thought it would be 3.7/10x4 = 1.48v

sorry, the voltage does not linearly reflect the capacity, the discharge curve has a distinct knee. I don't think it's possible to estimate intermediate capacity levels, but chargers are able to determine full capacity when reached from the voltage/current profile


 
Posted : 30/01/2009 4:58 pm
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"Fully Discharged" isnt 0v. Well, it is, but it's more complex than that. They mean at 40% capacity, not 40% output voltage (i.e. 3.7*10/4 isnt correct). The voltage/stored capacity curve is not linear...

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Posted : 30/01/2009 4:58 pm