[Closed] Carbon Covert

very very nice

very very nice

I've been looking forward to this since they let slip it was in the pipeline. Looks lovely! but no routing for an uppy downy seatpost? In the video two cable ties can be seen holding the cable to the toptube.

Has routing for a stealth reverb

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Looks really good in black, thought it might have come in a bit lighter though.

There is a whole host of carbon AM bikes knocking around at just under 7lbs, but very little other than the Nomad Carbon at 6 & under.

....well thats me sold then. I'll take 2, one in the lime with an rp23 and one in black with the RC4.

I'm particularly excited about this new technology:

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Oooooh, nice

Did they ever get the bikes back they had pinched not long ago?

my next bike i reckon.

The black one looks amazing. I am suprised that they haven't left tabs for a normal adjustable seatpost though? Unless there's some on the left hand side. As an alu covert owner I doubt I'll sell/upgrade as the current bike is ace, but it'll be cool if we start seeing my Transitions out on the trail in this country.

After I test rode the Alu one and missed it when the demo sold to someone else who moved quicker than me the LBS did mention the impending launch of this model.

Given the internal cable routing shown in the pictures, I wonder if they'll go down the "stealth" route for a dropper post cable?

Edit: that'd be a yes then!

Has routing for a stealth reverb

also, did they ever find the knicked one???

Exactly 1 pound lighter than the Aluminium version. Seems to be a target for many carbon copies (geddit).

I'd like to ride one. Black looks boring 🙂

nicked one never turned up... likely that it was binned and all the kit taken off and sold.
I was lucky enough to ride it the day before up at HS and it was pretty sweet. I also got to see it being ridden to the limit by Kyle. Having seen what he was prepared to do on it, I'd have no qualms at all about having one as my 'almost everything' bike.

Pity there is no pricing yet. That'll be the biggest sticking point over the alloy.

Oh. My.

That looks lovely.

+1 want now

This was going to be my next bike after seeing the stolen bikes pics, I own a covert at the moment.

But I can definitely see welds in that rear triangle, I'm not going to buy one only for them to release a full carbon one a year later.

Only the chainstays are alu, the rest is carbon.

Very Nice.

I wonder when the Carbon Bandit will be out, now that i would like to see, especially in that nice green colour

Much as I like the Covert, and Transition, I wouldn't buy any company's first caebon bike. Not for a little while.

Much as I like the Covert, and Transition, I wouldn't buy any company's first caebon bike. Not for a little while.

Probably made in the same factory and designed by the same experts as more established carbon frames... I wouldn't let that put you off.

WANT.

What do we reckon as a ballpark figure for the price?

messiah - Member

Probably made in the same factory and designed by the same experts as more established carbon frames... I wouldn't let that put you off.

Probably - I'd still let someone else do the making sure, though.

$2500

Hmm. Having read the specs - I have a worrisome feeling that this is going to be my next bike after all. Every part I have on my Spicy will fit it, bar needing a new lower headset cup, and a new BB.

it rides nice 🙂

Looks very like the SB66...

Press Fit 30 BB 🙁

So it was YOU that stole that missing one, eh?

I had a demo on the original, really liked, it, but the deal my LBS did on the Spicy swung it for me, plus the slightly longer travel & longer shock that the carbon version now has. Dammit. I think I'm at decision made here already.

Teetosugars - Member

Looks very like the SB66...

Yeah, but cleaner, prettier, simpler, doesn't have the rear tyre hitting the seat tube problem, and is designed for abuse, not as a trail bike.

The way the seatstays curve around above the rocker is very El Guapo.

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I think this will replace my TRc early next year as I am looking for more travel and also need a good climber, just need to stay in a job for another 6 months

Now that is gorgeous... Rode the alloy and almost bought one, narrowly losing out to a Five. Thank god, I'd be fairly upset as that is highly desirable.

A nice 'next bike' target 🙂

I know the factory. They are great.
I'd better crack on with the El Guapo carbon. Though ours will have bigger wheels 🙂

If you have any worries about the build quality then don't. Kyle was riding it at HS and hung a landing from a 12 foot drop. Cased the rear wheel and destroyed the rim. Frame was perfect, not a mark on it.

OK so from what I've heard there has obviously been a lot of interest Worldwide in the frame so we're going to be putting a email link on the Transition UK owners group on Facebook for anyone that's interested in getting one. Simply go on there and 'like' the page and we'll keep you updated with whats going on.

El Guapo-29er-carbon......WOOOOOOOOOOOOP
Now stop drinking tea and pull your bloomin finger out!!!

$2500

Ow. A thousand quid more than the alloy? Hard to justify when the alloy rides so well.

29er Carbon El Guapo? Why not carbon and normal wheels for the less niche?

29er Carbon El Guapo? Why not carbon and normal wheels for the less niche?

because I want one 🙂

Ow. A thousand quid more than the alloy? Hard to justify when the alloy rides so well.

jambalaya - Member

The alloy Covert retail price is closer to $2250 equivalent - so $2500
would mean it's just $250 more

Not how it tends to work.

$1500 = £1500

$2500 = £2500

brant - Member

I know the factory. They are great.

If you're passing through it, and happen to be carrying a large bag, do let me know.

Btw the $2500 was just a guess

@nols - like done, strictly it's an owners group though and I'm not one ....

toons - Member

Btw the $2500 was just a guess

Will be interesting to see - I'd be hoping for closer to a £500 premium on the alloy bike (still not cheap...) but fear you might be right.

Hmm... 18Bikes reckon it's going to be January before they're available. BOOO.

@jambalaya well, if you're a fan of the brand you're more than welcome.

We'll be doing some Tr.OG members only deals and stuff soon. It's still early days for the facebook group, but we're being supported by Surf-Sales. It all came off the back of the recent uplift at FOD. Thought it would be a good place to get everyone together to share info etc. I'm currently building an ali covert and the plan is to keep a diary of sorts for the various models. As soon as we have a discount scheme set up info will go up on the site. Currently trying to get the next uplift sorted.

@nols - all good. I test rode a Covert and by the time I dallied about whether to buy the demo frame they'd sold it.

alloy chainstay? FALE

alloy chainstay? FALE

I know the factory. They are great.
I'd better crack on with the El Guapo carbon. Though ours will have bigger wheels

No no no no Brant.

What we want is a 6.5lb carbon bike with the exact same geometry as the Nukeproof Mega and possibly a true four-bar setup.

Or a 6.5lb 650B Mega with VERY similar geometry, if you really must hop on the bigger wheel bandwagon.

Pwreddy prwease?

We are taking pre-orders for the first batch of mediums but they are going quick!
http://www.tamedearth.com/product/transition-covert-carbon/

any questions please do get in touch.

Or a 6.5lb 650B Mega with VERY similar geometry, if you really must hop on the bigger wheel bandwagon.

Crikey, £2400 frame only and Xmas delivery, nice bike but I think I'll let someone else have the opportunity...

£1000 premium over the aluminium? Nasty.

tamedearth - Member
We are taking pre-orders for the first batch of mediums but they are going quick!
http://www.tamedearth.com/product/transition-covert-carbon/

any questions please do get in touch.

Is that an official price? Seems massively expensive - £1015 more than the aluminium version?

Even Santa Cruz only put a £750 premium on their Carbon frame,s and that's before you even consider the whole sterling/dollar situation.

mm would want a try before I buy demo

honourablegeorge - Is that an official price?

yep that's the official retail price... makes the 'standard' Covert seem even more of a bargain I guess 😉

Pawsy_Bear - mm would want a try before I buy demo

$2500 = £2500

Sorry but that's a ridiculous price, never mind the funny launch video

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks 2400 is a bit much. 2k is a reasonable markup. i love my Covert and want tr to go from strength to strength but SC and yeti can charge more as they're still a more desirable brand.

found your web site, looks good

I have an alloy 2011 covert and I flipping love it. As gorgeous as the carbon one is, I don't think I could justify selling vital organs for it, especially as mine was an ex demo frame at a ridiculous can't-say-no price!

@Ti456 - did you buy the frame from Nirvana, I test rode it and loved the bike ? I spent a bit too long thinking about it and by the time I went back it had gone. Doh !

@jambalaya - it is worth noting that US prices don't include local taxes to the buyer. still... i hear what you are saying!

The 'standard' Covert is still an amazing bike and not to be underestimated just because there is now a carbon version.

@tamed - yes I'm aware of the no taxes, but the fact is if you buy mail order in the US from out of state you don't pay any tax.

I was in Nirvana Cycles yesterday and we speculated the Carbon Covert would be £2000. I'll be getting a Ali one next year funds permitting, just kicking myself I let the ex demo get bought by someone else, it was £650 with Hope BB and Headset.

tamedearth - Member
@jambalaya - it is worth noting that US prices don't include local taxes to the buyer. still... i hear what you are saying!

$2500 is £1616 - Sales tax is about 7%, not 50% - there's no justification for the pricing over her (not just Transition, this applies to all the US brands)

Bit disappointed with this - liked all the geometry, the shock size is spot on for my Vip'r, bike looks great - but for the pretty much the same money, the Nomad Carbon is three quarters of a pound lighter.

£2400 is a joke unforuntately - it's not even a fully carbon bike ffs - no way a carbon front end should add £1k to the frame price over the alloy version. If I was in the market for that type of bike I'd spend an extra £100 and get a NomadC - 3/4 lb lighter and VPP2 is betterer than the shock actuated single pivot rear end on the Covert anyway... 😉

@ bennyboy1 - it is only the chainstay's and rocker that aren't carbon. not the whole rear triangle. on the published figures of both frames it is 222g (just under half a pound) 'heavier' than a Nomad C. That will almost certainly pretty much all be in the carbon rocker on the Nomad. As for the suspension ride feel of the two systems I have owned both nomad versions (non carbon) before i was involved in selling any bikes... i can 'hand of heart' say that i prefer the ride feel of the Covert (alu). IMHO. Of course you also get the added benefit of having less bearings to replace.

As for sales tax and UK vs US pricing, that's not one we are ever likely to get a break on. unfortunately.

sorry - double posted. oops.

TBH I dont think a few grams make much difference its how a bike rides thats important. I dont notice the reverb given how the added improvement

@Pawsy_Bear - agreed.

@tamedearth - will you be doing anything to ease the pain? If I was to order one from you, would there be a headset & BB Adapter thrown in, for example? 🙂

honourablegeorge - Member
@tamedearth - will you be doing anything to ease the pain? If I was to order one from you, would there be a headset & BB Adapter thrown in, for example?

more than happy to talk. call me. 😉

tamedearth - Member

more than happy to talk. call me.

🙂 Let me mull it over for a bit*

Would need a large, so won't be an immediate decision.

*ask the wife

tamedearth - was being rather tongue in cheek earlier, I agree with posts above, I'm sure it would be pretty tricky to notice any real difference between a 222g frame weight difference although its always nice to lose some grammes if poss! 🙂

bennyboy1 - ...although its always nice to lose some grammes if poss!

...that's what i keep telling myself. one or two less pies should do it. 😆

To be completely honest the whole 'Santa Cruz can charge more' concept is one I dont really get... Yep they make nice bikes, (I had a Bullet as my first Alps bike) but they're also making far greater numbers and have a bigger market share. Transition are a far smaller company with much lower operating profits.

Carbon bikes are in a rarified atmosphere, and lets face it, if you're spending over 2k on a frame for an All MTN bike then a couple of hundred quid here and there isn't going to make a big deal to you. Ultimately you're going to be buying the one you want. Chances are you'll be putting a £900 fork on the front of it - so its all relative.

Saying that though, I just read that Spesh's new carbon s-works Demo is going to be over £10,000 😯