[Closed] Canyon Spectral

EX a more aggressive build, - it is basically Canyon's EVO build, - so its like comparing a Specialized Stumpy non-EVO versus an EVO version.

SL version is Superlight
EX is Extreme (I think?)

I would definitely go for the the EX

Hi,

I've ordered the 7.0 EX myself as I like the fact that it comes with the more sturdy Pike fork and a 1x11 drivetrain out of the box. The EX also have the tyres I want and it only weighs 12.6 kg so it was actually not a tough choice. Only "but" with the EX for me is the 150mm vs. 140mm on the non-EX. It might not be that much of a difference but here in Denmark where I live 140mm i already overkill 🙂

Can't comment on the currency-issue, sorry.

cheers
Rasmus

Don't want the Cane Creek Inline shock then?

Why not just pay them directly in Euros? I have done it for a few purchases. You just need to get the bank details of the company, which they will give you as it is the usual method of payment in Germany. And then open an account online with

[url= http://www.currencyfair.com ]this company[/url].

It is a bit fiddly to set up but you can bassiclaly exchange £ from your own account to any currency you like at the daily spot exchange rate (not the inflated buy/sell rates used by banks to fleece you each time you change one way or the other). the new currency is held in an account by the middle man (currencyfair). Then you simply give in the bank details of whoever you are paying and the money is transfered to them in their own local currency. I recently bought a load of camping/overlanding gear for a group buy with some mates from Germany. The bill was about 2500 Euros. The UK bank (Lloyds) wanted to chanrge me about £200 more to do an international transfer than it cost using the above method.

curiousyellow: I'm already pushing by budget on this one. I would also like the carbon version but gotta draw the line somewhere 🙂

You could use MetroBank. They don't charge a conversion fee for Euros I believe.

Personally, I'd cry if I broke the carbon so I'm saving up for the alu!

Apparently canyon won't let you pay in euros if you're shipping to a UK address - got a 7 ex on order myself. Even at the UK price it's a be,ting deal. The May delivery is shitty though

It is not the fees that hurt when using banks to transfer funds into different currencies, Lloyds don't charge a conversion fee either. It is the fact that they charge a different rate to buy and to sell so they will always make money on the transaction. With currency fair you actually just swap money in different currency with people who want to change it in the other direction. The rate you get will be somewhere near the mid point between the buying and selling rates of the banks. The only fee is a 3 euro fee for each exchange.

Contacted Canyon and this was their reply:

"Many thanks for your e-mail.
You can pay the Euro price if the bike is being shipped to a country who's currency is Euro.
You Can only pay in GBP if the order is being shipped to the UK.
The prices are set by our colleagues over in Germany at the start of each season.
The UK prices are still extremely competitive with our direct sales mode compared to buying a similar spec'ed bike from a local bike shop."

Personally, I still think this is a bit rich (why should I pay 10% more?), though I agree that it's still a competitive price.
Has anyone been to the Canyon showroom in Koblenz? For the £200 euro to GBP price difference, I could pay for a Ryanair ticket to Frankfurt and go look at their full range (would make for a fun day!) .. wonder if I can pay in euros when in person!

I think they are taking the mick with a 10% UK Tax.

May well be worth a trip to Koblenz. Was thinking about doing this with the missus early next year if I buy one myself.

Is it actually legal to charge different amounts? I have no idea but it sounds wrong to me.

Seeing as they are the only supplier I suspect there's nothing wrong with having different prices for different territories. It's like expecting a loaf of the same brand of bread to be the same price in your local M&S and one in Paris. Difference in Canyon prices here in Sweden (Swedish Kronor) is that they're about £50 cheaper again than the German €-price.

Not allowing you to order from another territory does sound dodgy though.

AFAIK Canyon used to change prices on a daily basis based on the prevailing exchange rate.
This actually caused a lot of complaints and complications, so apparently they changed to fixing prices based on a certain rate. It is possible that they fix based on a rate that allows for adverse rate movements.

It is of course equally possible that they simply feed they can charge a but more for "certain" territories based on what the relevent market can bear.

Is it actually legal to charge different amounts? I have no idea but it sounds wrong to me.

Of course it is.

Ever bought a pint of Fosters in Sheffield?

Ever bought a pint of Fosters in London?

If i buy a canyon i'll barrel over as a foot passenger on the ferry to belfast then drive to dublin and pick up my bike from there - work it in with a wee visit to some friends over there. sounds well worth a 10% saving on 3.4k on a spectral CF..

Is it actually legal to charge different amounts? I have no idea but it sounds wrong to me.

They can charge whatever they feel like. It's a free market. You're not forced to buy one.

Sounds very dodgy to me.
Other things put me off Canyon more, but that just takes the piss.