Sooo after 4 months of owning a Ragley MMMBOP (2020 model) i have decided i want to go back to a full suspension, i have purchased a Orange Alpine 160 frame (2016 model).
My original plan was keep the Ragley and build up the Alpine for the summer but i have really only got space for one bike, so my plan is to strip the parts off my MMMBOP and use as much as i can on my Alpine.
Parts i feel can go onto my Alpine.
Drivetrain: BB, derailurer, gears - the Alpine has a longer chain stay of 1.4cm but im hoping that wont be too noticeable with the current chain or i can add a split-link maybe.
Brakes, Bars, Stem all this stuff should be striaght forward i believe to transfer over.
Parts that cant
Forks RockShox Sektor RL 150mm (Boost), i have read that i can increase the travel maybe in the fork to 160mm but not sure how easy this would be? They are mint aswell, the Alpine isnt a Boost frame wheras the MMMBOP is so im not sure if i can use these forks at all on the Alpine?
Rear Wheel is boost so no matter what happens that needs to be changed
Seat post is 31.6 on the MMMBOP and the post on the Alpine is 30.9 so that will need changing.
I think thats pretty much it, lots going through my brain at the mo if the right approach is to strip down the MMMBOP or just sell as a whole. Knowing my MMMBOP is in mint condition makes me feel like i should take what i can off and put on the Alpine,, but im unsure in full so seeking other peoples thoughts 🙂
Thanks
I'd probably swap the parts over tbh as the second hand market is terrible. My mate struggled to sell his mint MmmBop recently with most offers sub £500.
I'd sell the forks and buy a similar 160mm pair rather than spend the money to increase the travel. Stick with boost forks so you can use the front wheel. Sell the rear, buy a non boost. Should be able to pick up the correct size dropper for not much too. Overall it shouldn't be too spendy. Worth checking if the rear brake hose is long enough before fitting though.
If you can at all hang on to the Ragley then I would, as has been said the second hand market is shocking at the moment unless you’re prepared to sell at giveaway prices. I believe you’re correct that the forks can’t be increased in travel so at a minimum you find yourself with the best part of a rolling chassis which will unfortunately carry little value. If you can hang on to them then now is the perfect time to keep an eye out for parts being sold for next to nothing and in no time find yourself with a hard tail and a full suss.
Thanks for the replies 👍
I did this recently from a Whyte 629 to my Stage Evo. Purchased the frame specifically because it would fit most of the parts from the hard tail, including the fork and dropper.
New chain was needed and hoses/cables which were an absolute pain in the hoop to route. Oh, and the headset, that was probably the most expensive new part. Worked really well.
Oh yeah, there was cranks too, but that was through choice really as the only ones were 175mm and I got a lot of pedal strikes with the rear suspension action.
If you are on a budget you could just use your current forks, 10mm less travel and the geo impacts etc will be a minimal impact ie you probably wont notice.
You will more than likely need a new chain/longer chain. Easy to check, fit it and put it in the biggest cog and let the air out of your shock and see how much the derailleur extends when compressing the shock.
Plenty of cheap 160mm forks out there - whats the wheel size though as a 2020 Ragley I'd have thought would be 27.5" and a 2016 Alpine would (I think?) have been 26"?
New chain and cassette is cheap enough if you need both, again, loads of cheap non-boost wheels around on the 2nd hand market. Dropper - Ascend for £100 can't be beaten. I run them on 3 bikes and can't fault them.
Alpine fork travel is listed as 140-160. so you should be fine:
https://orangebikes.com/blogs/bike-archive-2015/alpine-160-26-frame-2015
what rear wheel is it? could it be backwards converted?
Thanks! Its definetley the 27.5 version - this is sounding a lot more promising that i may not have to spend much 🙂
These are the wheels 🙂
You will be able to get a non boost rear wheel for peanuts, same for a secondhand dropper post.
External cabling so even more chance of straight swaps.
Good luck and enjoy it - still got my 2018 version in the garage which my youngest has now claimed and they're ace bikes.
WTB Serra wheelset, 32 hole, 148x12mm Boost rear with HG driver
If it’s non-boost frame then run the boost wheel - it’s only 6mm after all. I’ve done it before (not an Orange) without a problem other than it’s a bit more faffy to fit the wheel.
Quick question - does anyone know which rear shock bushings I will need?
The shock I’m fitting is a Fox Float DPX2 216mm x 63mm