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[Closed] Bugger!!! fork downtube interface problem. (66sl on my new DB Alpine)

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Came to fit the forks last night onto the new frame and the edge of the fork JUST touches the downtube. Its with a FSA Pig Pro headset which measures about 15mm crown to headtube lower face. My hope measure 13 which would make matters worse!

Any suggestions apart froma CK headset and a larger tall crown race. Don't want that if I can help it.

Or just file a little bit off the fork edge?

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advice from the all knowing STW massive mucho welcome

Dave


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:11 pm
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only thing that will help is a taller headset - do on-one do a smoothie with a deeper cup?


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:12 pm
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[url= http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/100940.html ]Cane Creek + 5[/url] you can get Headsets with a bit extra at the bottom


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:13 pm
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Someone does a headset specifically for this problem with a deeper bottom cup. I think it was on one but am not sure.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:13 pm
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Filing would be my choice. Taller headset would be a more professional solution, though it doesn't have to be CK.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:14 pm
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FSA Pig Pro has a lower stack height of 16mm:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=275

Cane Creek S3 Plus 5 has a lower stack height of 17.3mm:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11258

The biggest lower stack height I can recall at the moment...


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:16 pm
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File the downtube ;o)


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:20 pm
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On-One smoothie+5 headset has a lower stack height of 20.1mm. Works well too.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:24 pm
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File both the downtube and the fork.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:26 pm
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that'll just nick the paint. it'll be fine.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:28 pm
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Ive got a Cane Creek S3 +5 bottom cup and crown race you can have if you want it.
Ive since sold the frame I needed it on which had the same problem as you are havin, only slightly worse going by your photo.

Email in profile if you want to give it a bash.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:31 pm
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What year 66 is it? Do you know if it has the same crown as an 06 66RCX2?

Thinking of getting some for my Alpine for France this year but I dont like the look of that


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:33 pm
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Also, do any of you engineering types see a problem with sticking a 5mm stem stacker underneath the crown race?


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:35 pm
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the crown race wouldn't fit securely further up the steerer tube.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:39 pm
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I know theres a bulged section at the bottom of the steerer, assuming this is longer than 5mm, would it work?


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:40 pm
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Have tried a stem stacker on a different bike it did not work, the + 5 headsets are the best solution.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:51 pm
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i have this problem and my lbs fitted an upside down crown race and then the headset - might sound odd, but it looks ok and is rock solid.

I dont know how to put piccy on here, but can send you one / to anyone who does know how to post.

db004u0093@blueyonder.co.uk

Dave


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:52 pm
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i had the same problem runing pikes on my small intense 5.5

i fitted a cane creek S3+5 and machined a stem stacker and lock tighted it in to give me the requered clearance


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 7:55 pm
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Cheers lads,

davidtaylforth, yip it's a 2006 fork. The fact that it's the short top tube model will not help the situation.

There appears to be enough steerer of the larger dia to have a go at a washer/stacker of some description. Just not too keen on the idea.

Will the cane creek be any better sealed than the on-one?

It is only 2-3 mm extra i'm after. Just want to make sure that it clears even with some deflection in the frame and fork.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:01 pm
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Both Hope and Chris King do +5 and +7/10 mm crown races. This will push your fork away from the down tube. The CK one should work with your CC in my experience.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:01 pm
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Ooh, never seen that before. As most have suggested, get a headset with a deeper bottom cup and it'll be reet.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:05 pm
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Just looked at the steerer and there is not enough to use a spacer.

so new headset it is. just which one on-one or cane creek?

Anybody want a 'fitted but not' used FSA Pig Pro for £15?


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:22 pm
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Click the pic for more info from from Stif

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Posted : 12/05/2009 8:24 pm
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don't get a CK

CK + big forks = problems


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:25 pm
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Surely a headset with a deeper bottm cup is the same as applying a tall race in terms of what it'll do to available steerer length.

The above race is 5mm, the headset stack heigh difference is 3-3.5mm is 1.5mm really going to make any difference? I have more variation than that between stem/topcap interfaces across my myriad bikes.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:27 pm
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i had the same prob running revs and a crane creek something headset. the u-turn knob would strike the down tube if not folded over to the inside, as it were.

now have a syncros Hardcore Headset with lyriks and it's fine; a good 2/3 mm clearance.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:30 pm
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A mate has used one of those on-one smoothies for years and its still fine. He's a guide so it gets a lot of use.


 
Posted : 12/05/2009 8:40 pm