[Closed] BTR Ranger - British-made enduro hardtail awesomeness!

jeebus, looks like it's been welded by a blind chimp!

£675!! Sweet baby Jesus.

Just watched that Dirt video, the trails look strangely familiar... Wonder how much it weighs?

If they grew beards, it could sell for more.

Eeeeeeeeeeeew! Cast iron trellis? That could only look right with a clematis twining through it and evil Victorian sewage coursing through its pipes.

64 degree head angle mind...

64 static mind

It's damn ugly, I particularly dislike the gussets, yuk.

Give me a BFe....or a Shan....or an Alpine....or a Surge.....or a Troof.....or a Slackline over that, any day 😐

'Snice that.

Ha ha, silly price.

I guess they're cashing in on the latest trend "Enduro" racing (although 99% of people don't race). What was the trend last year? "All Mountain" wasn't it?

I'm sure some mug will buy it (to match their £60 Mojo mud guard)....

Love it. Bit different and made here by folk who are making what they want to ride and having fun doing it... max awesomz!

They practice what they preach- saw one up at the Dudes enduro. I was unhappy about having to use an unfamiliar tyre that I'd never ridden on before, he'd just finished welding his frame together. Fab. And being ridden fast on trails that were making some folks on big full sussers very unhappy!

Love the way adding the word Enduro adds so much to the price.

It's not an Enduro bike. It hasn't got an engine. 😉

Everyone talking about the price seems to have missed two key words: It's made here, in the UK. How much does a Curtis or Enigma cost?

It's made here, in the UK. How much does a Curtis or Enigma cost?

curtis have been as cheap as chips at chain reaction, what's your point caller?

What would it cost if it said Orange on the side (but wasn't made in the UK?)

A red one would look lovely...if you like your bikes to look like the Forth Rail Bridge.

small uk bike firm -brilliant

but the designer needs to sack his guide dog and the welder might try something a little more advanced than MMA welding.

strong frames and gussets don't need to be fugly.

Those gussets don't look as if they're doing an awful lot of work, other than adding cost and somewhere to trap mud. Don't get me wrong, they probably do increase the structural integerity of the frame. But not much.

The ‘X’ head and chainstay gussets maximise strength and stiffness whilst adding minimal weight

Rubbish. They'd be better as a large plate, with a hole cutout, so there's a decent length of weld along the tubes. If they can't get that right, what else is wrong?

I quite like it, but I like stuff that looks like it was designed and built in a shed, over something designed on a computer and built in a Chinese jelly mold....

Ah, I think everyone knows the Xs are mostly to give it a distinctive look.

The downhill one looks like it would be good as a downhill hardtail, I like the rad looking gussets everywhere. It reminds me of some badly constructed frames from years ago.

That enduro one looks a bit pointless. To start with, the seat tube isnt long enough on the large frame.

And you'd be better off on a 100mm travel bike for the riding in that video.

Can't see those gussets doing much, they look way too weedy to me - and trap mud too. Also gravity enduro? With a 120mm fork?..?

Yeah, it's a nice vid but doesn't really show it off doing what it's supposed to be for, does it. Limited locations to shoot, I guess? They're from somewhere down south

curtis have been as cheap as chips at chain reaction, what's your point caller?

Not all Curtis' (Curti?) are created equal, the UK made ones are reassuringly expensive.

Besides, the Curtis DH was £700, so same ballpark. No stupid plates on that though.

Good luck to them, distinctive product, small UK firm making bikes. Hooray for our side. 😀

Winter/sloppy days DH bike. Nice, at least it's not got penny farthing wheels, or fat tyres....

Curtis at CRC were a batch they made in the uk that were sold at full price and them knocked out for nowt to clear them - they weren't £200 frames to start with.

Having bought one I'd say that the quality of build and ride exceed any other steel hard tail I've owned (and I've had a fair few).

If these guys can build something in the uk that people will buy and enjoy riding then more power to their elbows

I like it and the company but at twice the price of the Bfe and the Alpine i won't be getting one. On the other hand The DH one (Belter) is on my list.

Have you guys seen this BTR?
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/9121848/

They do look quite nice, geometry wise. Shame the execution is a little agricultural, hate the gussets, they have more than a hint of 90's planet x about them, now if it was fillet brazed in 853 with prettier or even no gussets, then I'd be creaming my knickers...
Oh and it is made in a shed.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

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Take a closer look at the full suspension on their website, there are a few screw heads that have flats cut out of them, this gives me two thoughts, 1, they are using second hand screws on a custom £2000 frame, 2, something somewhere didn't fit so they had to mod it very crudely

Oh and the full suspension is the customer's design, not theirs. They only built it

I want to like the company but can't

wonder if there are any design calcs / CEN testing

I can see major stress risers in that design without looking at it for more than 30 seconds.

Don't need CEN for custom or race bikes

didnt say you did but would be interesting to see the results of cen testing on it .....

Oh and the full suspension is the customer's design, not theirs. They only built it

2.8kg for the large frame (inc maxle, mech hanger, integrated seat clamp, etc), so that's 6.2lbs in old money.

[i]looks like it's been welded by a blind chimp[/i]

Chimpist !. How would you feel if you were a visually impaired primate, trying to earn a living with an oxy acetylene torch !.

I've ridden the Belter (their first frame) and though ugly the ride was a joy. A true downhill hardtail. It was heavy but bloody good fun.

Not sure about this enduro thing though.

[i]Are you looking for the ultimate Gravity Enduro hardtail frame, or an all-day shredding machine? [/i]

I've absolutely no idea what this means so, as Duncan Bannatyne says, aaahm ooot.

Apparently this is a shredding machine:

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That's patently not what they're selling, so I think it's a scam.

For me part of the appeal of bikes and the double triangle design is the simplicity, I'm not sure about all that bracing, hmmmm

Plus, that exact trail today is a clay/chalk glop fest and the bottom bracket bracing would be stuck solid in seconds.

Are you looking for the ultimate Gravity Enduro hardtail frame, or an all-day shredding machine?

I've absolutely no idea what this means so, as Duncan Bannatyne says, aaahm ooot.

Old people. They do say some funny things.

2.8kg for the large frame (inc maxle, mech hanger, integrated seat clamp, etc), so that's 6.2lbs in old money.

About the same as a Ragley Bagger 288 then...

I like where BTR are coming from that a hardtail frame like this doesn't need 160mm forks so they have gone for 120mm; their Belter DH frame is designed for 150mm forks.

UK built in a shed is a great talking point as are the gussets. I know very well that just because a bike has been CEN tested does not mean it won't break 😈

[i]Old people. They do say some funny things. [/i]

Kids these days. They have no respect 🙂