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I've 2 of those Elite cages on my HT. Does that me twice as cool as Sam or do I get extra credit for one less bouncy end on the bike?
gonna be tricky to get a bottle in there...
Wouldn't catch me with one on my bike
[quote=BillOddie said]gonna be tricky to get a bottle in there...
It's all about the side entry 😉
Wouldn't catch me with one on my bike
You'd have a job catching Sam Hill TBH.
Never stopped using them, much prefer being without a backpack.
Followed a guy in a mass star race, 50km about 32c,he had one bottle and was riding badly. His bottle rattles loose and falls off, me being nice tell him he's lost his bottle.
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**** off mate.
I think most people are so used to a huge camelbak they automatically put it on for every ride. For 2/3 hour rides I use a bottle in a cage and the rest of my kit in a back pocket, with the pump on the supplied mount under the bottle cage. Ok it can get a bit dirty but the freedom of not having a massive weight on my back is easily worth it, especially in summer!
That's why I got a light weight 1.5l camelback back, only my poncy Road jerseys have pockets
Always have had one. Sure, for long days out its Camelbak every time and in winter too, for carrying an extra layer and a bit o grub etc.
But summer evening couple of hour rides, pump, tube and multi tool in jersey pocket, bottle in cage and off for a hoon round the woods.
Only tend to use a camelback for seriously long rides now and then, only if it looks as if the weather could change for the worse.
Haven't used one for 'regular' rides for a few years now. Best thing I ever did.
The temptation was to stuff whichever bag I had with more and more kit (because I could) and then persuade myself that I needed more and so the bags got bigger and bigger until it became a little silly. If you have limited capacity, you tend to only take what you need/what you can feasibly cram into your pockets.
Oh and Sam is a bit of a bogan...
I hate getting a sweaty back, especially on winter rides so a bottle has replaced my camelbak on my local twenty miler loop. I'm forty, way to old to be rad these days.
[quote=slowjo ]The temptation was to stuff whichever bag I had with more and more kit (because I could) and then persuade myself that I needed more and so the bags got bigger and bigger until it became a little silly.
But you don't have to do that just because you're carrying a hydration system on your back. I have a bottle cage on my bike, but tend to take a 1.5 litre hydration pack rather than a bottle because I find it easier to drink from and so end up drinking more. The hydration pack has a tiny pocket, just big enough to take a CO2 inflator and my keys, a mini-pump fits inside with the bladder. Mini-tool and tubes in a small seatpack, anything else in the pockets of my top. Then again, that's also pretty much all I'll carry for a 5 hour event, and I'll carry less for a 24 hour event than most on a 2 hour pootle - I've never worked out the need to carry the kitchen sink around.
Pretty much the whole reason I chose a MegaTR over all the other possible ENDURO frames out there.
I've just gone back to a bottle and cage, and have an Alpkit Fuel Pod coming to put my pump, multitool, phone and keys in.
I guess you missed the joke/punchline there bill
Well, I though it was funny Mike. HTH
Always like the "I overfill my bag therefore bags suck" thing. My bag only contains things I put in it.
I've got a few mates who insist that wearing bags is daft and use pockets, water bottles etc, and every one of them's "borrowed" some water when they ran out or lost a bottle, or used my pump because their pen-sized one is useless, or asked me if I can carry a jacket for them, or similiar... It seems like riding without a pack is great as long as they ride with someone else who has one 😆
true but the bike looks properly f'd
What was in the bottle that was so heavy it made the bike collapse?! 😆
Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?
or at least that's what it seems like out on the trails
What was in the bottle that was so heavy it made the bike collapse?!
Don;t be silly, the owner obviously removes the air from the shock and forks so that nobody can steal it (the air).
Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?
It's not a bad idea to pack for worst case scenarios, though obviously it can go too far.
You may be warm enough in your skimpy top and lycra G-string while riding, but have a crash and it may be a different story, sitting there getting hypothermic on top of a Welsh hillside.
Depends where you are riding and how far from help I guess.
I always wear a backpack now, it's an Evoc one with a back protector so I like to wear it even if it's got barely anything in it.
I have an irrational disdain for bottles....and mudguards 😉
Sams from Perth, it gets really ****in hot here... i mean really warm. Any way you can carry more waters a good thing to be honest. I've been know to get through a full camelbak, extra 600 ml water bottle shoved in, 500 ml frame bottle and the emergency bottle in the car over the course of a 25 km ride.
Some of these pros will ride anything
Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?
Yeah, the rufty tufty ballistic nylon and kevlar "all but the kitchen sink" backpack emphasises that here in the UK it's [i]really a matter of potential life or death[/i] riding a few laps of a bike theme park which never strays more than a mile or so from the car park and café.
I always wear a backpack now, it's an Evoc one with a back protector so I like to wear it [b]even if it's got barely anything in it.[/b]
This is what mystfies me too
riding a few laps of a bike theme park which never strays more than a mile or so from the car park and café.
Don't know of any that are less than a mile from the car park.
Walking with a bike is shit
Walking because you didn't bring something useful to fix the problem is doubly shit
Not everyone wears those fashion hipster jerseys with pockets in them
There is nothing wrong with a bag.
Sometimes it's easier to pick up the bag rather than sort the gear to pack into the pockets of the particular jersey that we decide to wear that day.
There is nothing wrong with a bag
Some of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.
I wouldn't buy a bike without a bottle cage mount.
yer a roadie jersey, this would be mountain biking
Some of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.
I sweat like a [insert statement here] and I can honestly say even when it was topping 35c it's never felt like that.
a jersey is a jersey, i don't have anything other than roadie jerseys and i do plenty of mtb miles
well there you go, most mountain bike jerseys don't have pockets, I've tried it a couple of times the crap just bounces round if there is any weight in it on some proper rough stuff.
Stuff in jersey pockets is pretty isolated from 'proper rough stuff' so rarely falls out. Seat packs on the other hand take a right beating and I've had one of those fall off.
So I prefer a bottle, and stuff in jersey pockets. If it's an exceptionally long ride needing a lot of food and water, then i'll take a camelbak, but with bottles on the bike and spares in the camelbak.
Hob Nob - MemberSome of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.
I think you're doing it wrong. The straps go round your arms not your throat.
I think you're doing it wrong. The straps go round your arms not your throat.
Ah, that must be it. Think i'll go with the shoulders rather than the arms though 🙂






