[Closed] Bored at work - Tyre purchase decision required (sad I know)

Big volume Blue Groove is good for me on all surfaces - but get the folding DTC one and run it soft up front, it's a nice grippy compound and a bargain for £15 online.

I kind of understand what Mark Wier was talking about, but I'm more inclined to blame inconsistencies in the surface underneath for slippage. WTB tyres are good value too, don't be put off by the fact that the knobbles look small. But not tried Weirwolf myself.

I use nevegal all round on my 5spot, stick-E up front and dtc rear for what it's worth.

Kenda Blue Groove (F) and Nevegal (R) both 2.35 DTC

Yes, I know the Kendas are seriously popular and are a cheap buy compared to the Contis (which is another reason why I fancied a change).

My bike did originally come with Nevs but I had the shop swap them out for a slimmer Maxxis Advantage tyre.

My only concern about the Kendas is rolling resistence/speed. My Contis out accelerate my mates bike shod with Nevs. Although I'm sure the Kendas are probably more suitable for the ever approaching winter than the Maxxis combo.

If you're considering a Larsen/HR combo, you may as well think about a Small Block 8/Nevegal combo as well.

Got this on my Trance now and it's very fast and very grippy (bone dry trails though).

Nevegals probably clog a tad worse than MKs when it's really muddy, but provide noticeably better grip "at the ragged edge", IME.

Dont like MKs 2.2 - had real trouble on muddy trails with forward grip and cornering. My mate gets pinches all the time - he's swapping to Advantages

Like Nevs 2.1 except they puncture too easily - go tubeless
Like Advantages 2.1 all round 60a Front 70a Rear.

HR 2.35 60a singleply are awesome grip on everything but too slow for my XC style.

Ran BG F and Nev R last year, both 2.35 DTC run ghetto tubeless on my Orange 5, fantastic, tried HR F&R 2.35 60a both with tubes and ghetto, found them absolutely pants, less grip thean the kendas and slower rolling, but according to the STW experts, this is because I am a sh1t rider, so have gone back to the Kendas. Gave the HR's to a friend to try and he must also be a sh1t rider because he moaned about them all ride on sunday round the wyre

(slight aside) I have a brand new Larsen TT 2.35 60a. Futted and removed as too big. Drop me a line if you're interested.

greg dot hodgson @ ntlworld dot com

Winter is coming, and nothing like a mud tyre for grip in winter...

I was at exactly the same point two weeks ago after around a month of nearly buying. In the end I went for the kenda combination (BG & Nev). They are amazing tyres when it comes to grip. Way way way better than the MK's I ran for almost two years. Don't get me wrong, I liked the MK's (2.4's), they offered a good compromise of grip, speed and puncture resistence especially pinch flats.

But grip wise the kenda's p**s all over them. Speed wise they're a little slower but not too bad, nothing sapping like. The only issue I have is that they're really not great for puncture resistance. The first weekend I had three pinch flats and one puncture. I'm still playing around with tyre pressures but I haven't struck the balance between being soft enough for grip and stopping punctures yet.

Depends on where you ride though, I live in the north west and so ride in the lakes a lot and such like.

Thanks everyone for your input, appreciated. There is nothing like a what tyre thread to rouse the masses 🙂

I've clicked on the Buy Now button (although I wish I'd saved those wiggle vouchers they've been sending me for the past few months).

votchy and neil853 sealed the deal. A Kenda BG and a Nev in 2.35 DTC form are on their way.

can these normal kenda tires be used as tubless at allas they are quite light compaired to the ones that are on my bike currently!!

like the idea of running a bg up front and a nevegal out back !

where is everyone buying from currently then?

cheers

steve

i bought mine from wiggle but wolley hat shop were doing some cheap as well. haven't tried tubless yet but its on my mind

£15 for BG at AllTerrainCycles - website's got the wrong image though, but they sent me the right tyre 🙂

what sealant do people use in the kenda's as i've seen that stan's can react with them and delaminate the tyre causing them to deform and fail

For some reason kenda tyres never appealed to me and have always chosen Maxxis. I think most of it is in the riders head half the time!

"Maxxis High Roller (F) and Larsen TT (R) both 2.35 SPC Maxxpro 60a
Kenda Blue Groove (F) and Nevegal (R) both 2.35 DTC"

Bear in mind that a 2.35" High Roller is only ever so slightly bigger than a 2.1" Kenda Nevegal
You'd need roughly a 2.5" High Roller to get to 2.35" Nevegal volume, and it'd (the HR) probably still be smaller (I've not seen both together to compare)

Also it'd be well worth getting a folding 2.35" 60a High Roller over a single ply wire one as its 100-150g lighter
(also theres a single ply wire 2.5" 60a but no folding version)

anyone looked at the new(i think) superlight nevegal and bluegroove? wouldnt mind knowing if they are good, cant just take a kenda sponsored rider's word for it....

Maxxis High Roller (F) and Larsen TT (R) both 2.35 SPC Maxxpro 60a

I find this a very good combination. Highly recommended.

2.35 Stick E Nevegal on the front with a 2.35 Maxxis Larsen Maxxpro 60a on the rear is also a good combo in dry to intermediate conditions.
The Larsen is also not as bad in the damp as people make out considering its a dry use tyre. Be warned though, the Larsen wears out faster than a fast thing! Can imagine that the softer compound versions would only last a matter of weeks!!!

Am I missing a trick with the Kendas?

I've had them fitted for a week now and have managed 4 rides. All of which are regular routes for me (local loop and Ladybower Classic). From a comparison point of view with my Conti MK Pros they're slower and do not seem to offer anymore grip.

If I run them with higher pressure for faster rolling as soon as I hit the rough stuff I'm pinged all over the place. If I run lower pressures the ride is very draggy. They also feel like big heavy tractor tyres.

Any tips for getting the setup right as I'm verging on throwing my dummy out of the pram, putting my MKs back on and sticking the Kendas in the classifieds.

I love my MK's 2.4's 45 psi and I'm happy as larry.

Grip well here in the Sarf.

Maybe you just 'dont get on' with them - after all lots of people seem to dislike the MK's. What are the conditions like where you are riding? Maybe the Kenda's will be better than the MK's in mud. And yes, 2.35" Kendas are pretty big.

Maybe poppa maybe. All my local trails are Sheffield and the Dark Peak and the trails have been generally dry for some time now. That is due to change soon though. Although I've run 2.4 MK Pros without issue in all conditions for 15 months or so.
Maybe I'm still yet to find a sweet spot with the Kendas but my patience is wearing thin.

Maybe take them off whilst they are still in decent nick, then try them again when the trails get muddy? That way you can still sell them on.

The trails don't really get 'muddy' in the Dark Peak - more a sort of gritty slurry. I've run a Racing Ralph on the rear round here right through winter...

I'd have a look at the Maxxis Minion DHF single ply on the front and maybe the Larsen on the rear btw - a mate of mine who's a very good rider was raving about it as a rear tyre just the other night - just fitted a Minion on my Pace and it's very, very good and grippy and much more directional than the High Roller, which has those huge lurching tread gaps you can feel if you lean the bike into a corner.

Was that you last night climbing to Whinstone Lee Tor BWD? I thought I recognised you from a photo posted on here. Twas about 4:45.

Oh well! Trails dry here too, I still have my summer tyres on...