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Do any of you notice any untoward flex in the frame? The bikeradar reviews concern me a bit.

In reality, for the average rider, is this flex ever a problem? Does the bike feel sluggish and unresponsive, or can the apparent flex actually be a good thing at times?


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:22 pm
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ridden my mates, didnt notice any flex at all and im coming from a very stiff kona process


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:25 pm
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I don't.
It's funny how people repeating that review quote has made me scared to definitively say it though.

Disclaimer: I only weigh 58kg

See! - I feel like I have to put a disclaimer in there!


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:29 pm
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Same as above - had a go on one and didn't notice any real flex.

I often wonder if it is the wheelset rather than the frame that causes this - I have seen that before.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:33 pm
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word was that bikeradar had a prototype - when I spoke to Bird at Hamsterley a few weeks ago they said that any flex had been sorted on the production frames

that was good enough for me

there's been more than enough written about em on here (and on other reviews) and no-one has identified any noticeable movement so I'll be happy to give em my money


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:33 pm
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It won't be an issue.

The Dirt-Orange WC DH team do ok on their 'flexy' Orange bikes...if anything for real world numpties like ourselves It will help with traction and take some of the harshness out of the trail that the suspension can't deal with when loaded laterally.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:34 pm
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I wouldn't worry about the flex, even if you found it wasn't to your taste - people will queue up to take the frame off your hands.

Is it wrong that despite looking the perfect frame for my needs, I won't commit to one purely based on the gash looking front mech hanger sticking out of the seat tube?.. (conveniently obscured in most press photo's)

I know, i'm a complete tart.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:39 pm
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Is it wrong that despite looking the perfect frame for my needs, I won't commit to one purely based on the gash looking front mech hanger sticking out of the seat tube?.. (conveniently obscured in most press photo's)

Notice one of those last night on a zero. Its exactly the same as the ugly one transition put on their frames.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:45 pm
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It is ugly - I noticed it in every photo and really wished it wasn't there. Can't say I've noticed it at all after buying it though (except when I was processing the photos).
Daft if it's putting you off. Put a bottle opener on there or something.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 12:53 pm
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I am daft, and a bit OCD. Plus trained in 3D design so my eye is instantly drawn to such mitherings.

I may come around and attempt to overlook it.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 1:19 pm
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Can you mount a mini chain device on it so it looks 'better'


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 1:22 pm
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Had mine a month or so now I can't say I have noticed flex at all . I think superstar do little blanks for the mounts in all the usual colours


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 1:47 pm
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Can you mount a mini chain device on it so it looks 'better'

this


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 2:58 pm
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Can you mount a mini chain device on it so it looks 'better'

If it bothers people that much and they're never going to use it, just grind it off with an anglegrinder, saves weight too 😉


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:08 pm
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Had actually considered that. Be a shame to bother the fresh paintwork mind.

It is mental to be hung up over such a thing isn't it. ? .

I [i]must[/i] overcome.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:13 pm
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I wouldn't trust any bike journo when they come out with something like this.

Seen far too much BS over the years.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:23 pm
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Does the Aeris rear end flex? Yes (what bike doesn't to an extent?). Is it enough to worry about, or negatively affect the ride? No.

I've ridden stiffer bikes and I've ridden less stiff ones.

I'd take anything bike radar writes with a pinch of salt.

Buy one of these if you are a tart http://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/direct-mount-cover.htm


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 3:49 pm
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I'm not taken by the frame's design overall, looks a bit too cut n shut to me. Big simple tubes, that triangle at the front, nothing pretty about it, and it's heavy.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 4:00 pm
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You see, I think the big simple tubes add a refreshing smoothness to the whole look.
Three uniform isosceles triangles coming together nicely.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 4:09 pm
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Big simple tubes over poncy hydro-formed tubes any day for me.
I quite like they're hardtail myself. Shame I can't justify one at the moment.
I think people make too much fuss over frames that flex, obviously too much flexing can be detrimental but if you think how long the chainstays are from the main pivot on bikes (pretty much over half a wheel's length) then that's a fairly long lever so there's bound to be some flex. And most long travel bikes (built to be durable, not skinny long legged XC bikes) are stiff enough for nearly all people.

Tom KP


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 4:48 pm
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If it does, it isn't noticeable to me or (better) other riders who've ridden it pretty hard. Demo one and see.

I bough the £5 mech cover. I'm sure BIrd'd rather not have the direct mount at all but they're covering as many bases as possible with one model. I like how it looks; simple and fit for purpose. I liked the Rocket (although that was prettier maybe) for the same reasons and my old Nukeproof Mega which was - at best - industrial chic.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 5:00 pm
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coming from someone considering a Mega TR, i'll take 'Industrial chic' as a description 🙂

Looking forward to manufacturers ditching front mech tabs altogether. Makes even more sense to me on trail/full suss frames. Either way, it could easily be executed much more smartly - look at the new Mega frames for example.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 5:05 pm
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My Aeris doesn't flex noticeably, the only flex I can feel is in the wheels/fork.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 6:38 pm
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Stock wheels? And what fork?

(For future reference obviously)


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 6:42 pm
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Pike Rct and hope enduro.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 6:46 pm
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To be fair the wheels have been hammered in the month I've had them and the rear is needing a new rim from a blow out/rock damage.


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 6:49 pm
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Sounds plenty ok to me then.

I'd be looking at the Pike and the stock DT Swiss E1700s so sounds like flex is a non-issue

Cheers


 
Posted : 14/08/2015 6:52 pm