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my mate has said that it is my fault that he has to get the brake post mount re-threaded on his Lyriks.

i borrowed his fork for a few days over summer as i wanted to get an idea of how his mid-weight spring felt.

i fitted my SLX brake using a shimano 203 adapter for use with a 203 rotor.

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he has subsequently fitted his [b]XT brakes[/b] using a [b]Formula K24[/b] 180mm adapter for use with 180mm rotor.

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as you can see the two adapters differ greatly from one another.

when i used the fork the thread was fine.

now, he's not well known for his mechanical prowess, but he'd managed previously to fit the brake using the adapter and a multitude of spacers and possibly luck. (myself and another housemate told his he shouldn't try and use components that aren't compatible with one another).

i'm guessing as he put things back together he got the order of spacers or the direction of the adapter wrong or the bolt he used probably wasn't long enough for the job and has ripped out half the thread in the bottom mount.

should i tell him bollox, or accept some sort of responsibilty?

i'm thinking bollox.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:29 pm
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Have you got another mate you can borrow a set of bombers from?


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:31 pm
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I'd go with bollox.

I'd also tell him to find out the depth of the thread with a long m6 bolt and cut to length so he's using all of the remaining thread possible, and use some loctite.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:35 pm
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he's sent me a shitty email after i replied with "haha" with reference to the fact that he's had to get the thread re-cut.

he response was along the lines of:

"i'm sorry, i really don't know what is so funny.

it has cost me money and reduced the resale value of the fork.

and especially that it wasn't my fault"

ok.. so he's not pointed the finger directly, but it's thinly vieled as to what he means....


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:42 pm
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he's sent me a shitty email after i replied with "haha" with reference to the fact that he's had to get the thread re-cut.

Your fault or otherwise, you don't sound like a great mate to me.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:46 pm
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Tell him he's useless and to get it helicoiled.

I found a Fox Float post threaded when I bought a new bike. Someone at the factory must have cross threaded it when they installed the brakes.

I couldn't be bothered to kick up a fuss as the bike was such a bargain and was the last one. Instead I got both threads helecoiled for £15 - it's now smooth as you like and stronger than it was to start with.


 
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Have you got another mate you can borrow a set of bombers from?
Brilliant...

Er i would say as he was kind enough to borrow you the forks, and you can't say EITHER way who is to blame, i'd at least offer to pay something as a token?!? That doesn't mean you were responsible..


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:47 pm
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he lent, i borrowed....

i gave him some weed as a thank you. no he didn't consume it whilst re-fitting the fork.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:49 pm
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offer to pay to get it helicoiled for him. If he really knows he did it, he'll either refuse, or will know he's in your debt. If he doesn't believe it was him, at least in his eyes you'll be honest.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:50 pm
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Yep my grammar is crap...at least I don't cross thread mates forks. 🙄


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:52 pm
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nor do i.....!


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:55 pm
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I'm damned sure you'd know if you'd cross thread it/damaged it, especially as you used it. You wouldn't have used it if it was damaged now would you?
It's not something that happens when you unscrew bolts, so it's obviously his fault, tell him to FO (bloody chancer).


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 3:56 pm
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He'll need it helicoiling properly and not just recut with a tap set. Lots of the thread material will have been lost and it might not hold up well.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 4:00 pm
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He'll need it helicoiling properly and not just recut with a tap set. Lots of the thread material will have been lost and it might not hold up well.

If a job's worth doing it's worth doing well. However, on a PM fork, the force on the caliper is pushing the bolt into the leg of the fork rather than pulling the bolt away so I doubt whether it is that critical as long as there are enough turns to hold the bolt snugly.

I am not an engineer, though.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 4:05 pm
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Lets just hope he doesn't read this post as you've just called him a tight, weed smoking, lying, useless mechanic on a public forum....


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 5:29 pm
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Just pay the £15 to get it helicoiled. You never know when you'll need a mate, you seem prepared to just **** him off rather than help.

FWIW if between the pair of you the fork hadn't been swapped & refitted, there wouldn't be a problem, his fork would still be intact.


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 5:38 pm
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You don't sound much like 'mates' to be fair...


 
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Just pay the £15 to get it helicoiled. You never know when you'll need a mate, you seem prepared to just **** him off rather than help.

FWIW if between the pair of you the fork hadn't been swapped & refitted, there wouldn't be a problem, his fork would still be intact.

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You don't sound much like 'mates' to be fair...

PLUS ANOTHER 1


 
Posted : 04/10/2010 6:02 pm
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🙂

cheers guys...

he's a good mate, but can get a bit arsey. i think he's more pissed off with himself and trying to shift the blame.

his response is a bit vague and doesn't directly point the finger at me, but as said, it's a bit thinly vieled. maybe something was lost in translation....

i'll offer to pay for the thing to be helecoiled. as said, he's a good mate.

oh, and he'd most likely agree with my analysis of his character....


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 12:32 am
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If a job's worth doing it's worth doing well. However, on a PM fork, the force on the caliper is pushing the bolt into the leg of the fork rather than pulling the bolt away so I doubt whether it is that critical as long as there are enough turns to hold the bolt snugly.

I am not an engineer, though.

As it's the bottom bolt it is probably being pulled out as the turning force on the caliper will be at the centre of the pad.


 
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And here, Ladies and Gentlemen, you see yet another example of the bicycle industry screwing us all with yet another "new standard". There was no danger of damaging the brake mount on an IS type fork by cross threading. Admittedly the caliper could be damaged but they're a lot cheaper than a new set of fork lower legs. Progress indeed.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 7:24 am
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Gasman wtf you on about?

You can't blame the bike industry on incompetent people and why would you buy a set of lowers when you can helicoil.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 7:33 am
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Doesn't this get filed under 'S**t happens' Like when my mate drove my car into a field and bent the chassis, I didn't even mention the damage he had done until years after.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 7:33 am
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Or when your mate drives his van over your still attached front wheel, despite it being almost completely obscured by your own van's open back doors:)


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 7:56 am