[Closed] Beer, pub, pint references in all the bike mags

you mean the post ride beer's aren't mandatory?

Riding the last downhill of the day with beer goggles on is one of lifes great pleasures!

Dont tell the Mrs it isn't a mandatory requirement otherwise she would want me home after the ride had finished...

I only bought a bike 'cos I got banned for knocking a cyclist off while going through a red light after a few bevvies in the pub*

*all or part of this may not be true.

Nothing wrong with pub and beer references at all. We all do it, it's not illegal, it's social, we've earned a pint.... Nothing better to complain about Hora?

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if you've made it to the 'post-ride beers' then surely you were there for the mid-ride beers and the multiple hipflask stops anyway, so what's the problem?

We all do it, it's not illegal

I don't generally (not saying I wouldn't), and given the massive harm done by alcohol generally in society it's kind of a fair point. Alcohol straight after heavy exercise is especially bad for you as well I believe.

heavy exercise

I'm too old - go home & to bed after my weekly night ride

Don't see anything wrong with social rides ending in a pub though - races presumably end with fruit-aroma'd group urinations in the nearest hedge/macdonalds instead

I don't generally (not saying I wouldn't), and given the massive harm done by alcohol generally in society it's kind of a fair point. Alcohol straight after heavy exercise is especially bad for you as well I believe.

Oh FFS, listen to yourself. Jeezus H Christ.... You can't say diddly-squat here without someone taking your words, implying their own meaning, and blowing it out of all proportion. Just for you I'm going to MAKE SURE I have a beer after my next ride. 😉

I don't drink beer purely because I ride a bike. I'll have other drink, but apart from a few around Christmas I stay off it.

Once a month we have a pub ride, but I don't think anyone's ever bought alocohol on it because of the ride home.

Just for you I'm going to MAKE SURE I have a beer after my next ride.

I'll drink to that

I love [i]Dirt Rag[/i]'s ale review, always well written - the latest 'un (on so-called "sour" brewing) was especially interesting. Ah, US microbrews.... Hic. 😀

It's a good point I think. I wouldn't particularly want a magazine my teenage son (ok I don't have one ok?) was reading to continually report on the drinking they did after every ride. The smaller magazines have a niche following so it might be a different thing with them. I don't mind the odd reference here and there but I think it's definately mentioned more than say 10 yrs ago. Substitute "a post ride pint" with "post ride cigarette" and I think more people would agree with the OP.

Awaits obvious responses.
"people make up their own minds"
"it's a free society"
"they don't have to read it"
"they cab publish what they want"
"parents have a role to play"
"it's not illegal"

blah blah! 😉 (notice wink please!)

Dont get me wrong. Im an old-soak however it just gives a slight undertone for anyone who is impressionable or say a Muslim that biking is linked to a booze-culture?

I've never really seen the connection between cycling and beer / alcohol. You wouldn't go for a 10k run then have a pint would you?

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No but after a Fell Race it's virtually compulsory!

[i]it just gives a slight undertone for anyone who is impressionable or say a Muslim that biking is linked to a booze-culture? [/i]

Does it ****!

Real Ale review in the next mag please!

Biking is linked to a booze culture for me and that's one of the things I like about it! I can booze with less belly because I cycle...

The post ride "de-brief" is part of the evening / afternoon. Weekends / weeks away wouldn't be half the fun without the pubs. And as for the annual sherry run.... 😮

The social side of cycling (and therfore drinking) is important to me and others so why not mention it in the odd article? Pubs are an important part of British society that are sadly in decline these days.

Better the youth of today thinks a pint in the pub after some exercise is a good thing rather than guzzling alcopops to get drunk in the park?

or, the post-ride-beer influence in the mags is a good thing for the yoofs to read about...

i think the

'drinking beer is a nice relaxing thing to do in chilled out setting after you've earned it riding your bike with your mates (snacks are good too)'

influence is much better than the

'beer should be drunk in multiples of six, very quickly, standing up in a crowded bar'

influence that the yoofs are being presented with from every other direction.

(edit: Madpierre got there first, and said it better than i could)

(and yes, fell-running isn't actually possible without a recovery-pint, i've tried, and it just can't be done)

Once a month we have a pub ride, but I don't think anyone's ever bought alocohol on it because of the ride home.

Sounds like a bag of laughs event! Why even bother with the pub?

[i]Dont get me wrong. Im an old-soak however it just gives a slight undertone for anyone who is impressionable or say a Muslim that biking is linked to a booze-culture? [/i]

Ah, so you think Muslims are a bit simple and can't cope with such subtleties?

If the yoofs stuck to drinking pints, instead of alcopops and other much more "efficient" ways to get blootered, our world would be a better place....... the quantity factor would slow them down a bit 🙂

Ban everything.

Ban everything.

Totally disagree. Real Ale pubs should only employ 18-21yr old ladies and the said-pubs should be renamed 'baps' (or barms depending where you live) ,,,as in hooters but classier.

I have to agree, I don't think the promotion of drink culture in relation to a sport/bike culture is a necesary thing.

Fair enough if it's the odd refernce along side that of other parts of journo's life eg kids, DIY, family, finances etc or anything else that has a RELEVANT point. But I don't like the idea of giving the impresion that you must act a certain way if you're a member of a sporting subculture.

STW is clearly aimed at those of an older age bracket who have gone beyond sudden trends and are happy with themselves and their chosen style of riding and therefore probably has less of a responsibility re' setting a good exampe as we're all grown ups. MBUK on the other hand is clearly aimed at the younger market

I'm sure my mates and I weren't alone in desperately apeing the antics/bike set up/phrases of the big boys in MBUK when we were impresionable Yoofs keen to have an identity and I think this is an important thing for an editor to bear in mind.

We all do it, it's not illegal, it's social, we've earned a pint....

you can have mine Peter 🙂

My nephews are too busy lusting after the expensive bike sin the ads and saying "Wow!" to the pictures of Sam Pilgrim doing some insane stunt to read the words in MBUK!

I think I'll have to take them to the pub after our next ride?

Just for the mags. I'd like to see the drink references replaced with nutrition or more diet tips.

I don't need a writer trying to emphasise with me. Just think there is a level of almost subliminal 'beer' in bike mags with a potential young readership.

. Just think there is a level of almost subliminal 'beer'

but doesn't that merely reflect the explicit alcohol promotion in common usage:
I need a drink
There's drink in in for you
I'll buy you a pint
Beer vouchers
Think drink
I wouldn't trust a man who couldn't take his liquor
etc etc ad nauseam

So who's up for some post-ride E's then? Just to keep the buzz going, like 😉

So who's up for some post-ride E's then? Just to keep the buzz going, like

There is definately a stronger connection in the MTB world with going to the pub for a post ride pint or three! (otherwise we would all be "Skinny roadies") If the people writing have a 'post ride pint' culture then that will be included,in their articles. Not only do I not think that this glamorises drinking but I do not think that these magazines are read by young and impressionable kids anyway.

you can have mine Peter

Cheers Simon, that's most kind of you! 😀

You forgot to mention the constant glamorisation of cake!

So who's up for some post-ride E's then?

well, I think the point is, alcohol IS a dangerous drug (possibly the most dangerous, particularly to other people), but many manage to use it relatively benignly, so why should the same not be the case with the other drugs? Levelling prohibition against them allows a criminal subculture to exploit them for (massive) profit

Singletrack seems to often mention in its articles probably the most used drug in this country: caffeine (in the form of coffee)....

Most people are addicted to that without even realising.

So what are you suggesting? Random UCI drug (reference) checking for bike mags? 😉

Christ, people on here are getting as bad as the Americans, with their Puritanical attitude to drinking beer. I'm waiting for a subscriber to cancel his subscription 'cos beer is written about, as I've seen happen in Bike Magazine. If children are brought up by responsible parents to treat alchohol as something to be enjoyed for it's flavour, and to drink moderately, there'd be few problems. Does anyone really think that what's written about in a bike mag is going to turn children into beer monsters? I don't think so, peer pressure is a far greater influence, and as for what a Muslem might think, well, what business is it of yours? Far too many people nowadays like to be offended on behalf of others who generally couldn't give a toss. I think it provides some sort of purpose in their otherwise sad and empty lives.

Anyone fancy a pint?

Alchohol is addictive - but you do have to work at it. But it is also legal and therefore can be tried by anyone over 18. Surely it is better to try and foster a culture of "responsible" drinking - eg have some exercise, have a couple of beers and a bit of banter, go home a happy bunny, not an angry voilent bunny?

In reality kids are going to try alchohol anyway, and I don't think we can blame the mountaini biking press for this.

It also occurs to me that the kind of kids who would read MBUK, and ride a bike are not really the ones that will develop problems (in most cases) as they already have something to do other than drink full time.

And anyway, most of them are far too stoned out of their heads to make sense of the words in MBUK anyway........ 8)

with their Puritanical attitude to drinking beer.

my attitude isn't puritanical - I just hate the taste 🙂

If children are brought up by responsible parents to treat alchohol as something to be enjoyed for it's flavour, and to drink moderately, there'd be few problems.

with respect, I think this may be tosh - a proportion of people are susceptible to alcohol and likely to become alcoholics if exposed to it, no matter the context.

...say a Muslim that biking is linked to a booze-culture? So bloody what, its been part of British culture to go down the pub for a pint for a few hundred years, who give a toss if a muslim doesnt like it tough, its a part of the social aspect of Mountain Biking. I am sure a Muslim is quite capable of ordering a soft drink.

I'm waiting for a subscriber to cancel his subscription 'cos beer is written about, as I've seen happen in Bike Magazine.

On Friday we received a letter from someone who stated 'beards' as one of the main reasons they wished to cancel their sub.

No really! 🙂

"STW is clearly aimed at those of an older age bracket who have gone beyond sudden trends"

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha maybe the age part of that comment is correct

STW do have silly beards though 😉 although its a reason to buy a subscription...STW aka ministry of silly beards & mountain bikes

I don't mind a beard now and then, but not after a ride - and frankly I think ST is irresponsible to promote such behaviour.

SFB; If you muscle past your gag reflex, you will soon find the taste of beer quite relaxing, is there anybody who LIKED beer(since that is mostly what the op is refering to0 at first taste?

everything madpiere says +1
this is a bit like having a more literate alterego g

SFB; If you muscle past your gag reflex, you will soon find the taste of beer quite relaxing

and what would be my motivation ? I've tried numerous times, and consumed nearly a whole gallon of the stuff over the past 35 years without developing a taste for it 🙁

Also I'm so relaxed already I often find it hard to stay awake in the pub...

On Friday we received a letter from someone who stated 'beards' as one of the main reasons they wished to cancel their sub.

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SFB- Im with you actually. In pubs in the past I have had Lager tops. As a student I once sat in a pub next to the old football ground in Southampton holding a glass of red. Someone told me that a student had been glassed for drinking a glass of red not so long back. Thing is, I couldnt drink Lager 🙁

1 or 2 pints of local ales isnt really comparable to going out to "liquid and diva" or some other hot local spot with the express intention of drinking ones body weight in the cheapest alcopop availible?

[i]I don't need a writer trying to emphasise (sic) with me. [/i]

I promise I have no intention of ever trying to 🙂

I don't need a cycle to get me in the mood for beer. I have a pint after rugby, skiing and sometimes after doing nothing at all. I have even been known to have a pint when someone has decided it would be ok instead of working. Occasionally I'll have one lying on a sunbed next to a pool or beach too. How awful. Children and Muslims should probably be protected from me because I am clearly a danger to the rest of society.

There are an awful lot of dangerous things mentioned in various forms of print media which I have read about and yet not felt compelled to try, Suicide, Bestiality, Religion…

The fact of the matter is if you talk something up enough it goes from being a non-entity to the worlds biggest issue, apparently all Children over the age of 13 are knife wielding, drug addicts (According to various forms of print media), I’m not sure the actual facts always bare these kind of assertions out…

I have been for a post ride pint on occasion, and like many people I am capable of self moderation, what you may see as “promotion” of an alcohol centred culture is most likely a simple statement of fact, basically people do on occasion go for a drink to be sociable after a bike ride and nothing bad happens…

Just because we have a bit of an issue in this country with our drinking culture doesn’t mean we need to jump to the polar opposite position of total denial, remove all references however benign to alcohol consumption, you don’t make someone an alcoholic simply by mentioning beer, it’s a confluence of individual circumstance: upbringing, mental health, poverty, peers, and the media can all have some influence…

I don’t think reading MBUK, however poorly written it may be, is going to knacker anyone’s liver…

with respect, I think this may be tosh - a proportion of people are susceptible to alcohol and likely to become alcoholics if exposed to it, no matter the context.

doesn't mean everybody has to adopt a lifestyle of total denial. The Puritans certainly never did.

and [b]has[/b] anyone suggested this ? Were one practicing denial of sensual delights then MTB would be prohibited too 🙂

My pal is a smoker and told me I should oppose the smoking ban when they were talking about bringing it in. His reason was simple. if they get it they won't stop there, they'll turn their attention to drink and all other kinds of fun soon. It would appear that he is becoming more righterer with every day.

think ahwiles made a very fair point
not a lot wrong with a well mannered social post excercise brew and as said much better than simply getting hammered/having a fight/sleeping it off on the sofa

think the worst example of glorification of [u]excess[/u] drinking was after England won the ashes - interviewing players who were totally trashed and holding them up as heroes

as to people that don't drink - many will be used to fact that others do and can deal with it and pubs have changed a lot

personally i don't like cake (!!!!!!) so a post ride cakeshop stop ain't my scene and i've never found myself tempted to join in the excesses

there is a big difference between only holding events in pubs that are supposed to involve the whole community and may therefore exclude some people and having a post ride beer/orange juice

Not really sure how you manage it but we rarely go out drinking as a club. Night rides finsish around 10-10.30 and people then have to get home and up for work so seldom hang around. On weekends we've often driven somewhere so drinking is impractical. Occasionally, we'll do a cake or chippy stop if we've got a way to go back.

Never really feel like alcohol after a ride anyway. And as above I much prefer the social pint after a biking session or paddling session rather than heavy drinking.

Were one practicing denial of sensual delights then MTB would be prohibited too

wanders off back to chores wondering if thats a problem with chaffing shorts or a covert reference to saddle sniffing

I promise I have no intention of ever trying to

DeVs its the one brave, noble and sensible act that Labour has done.

they'll turn their attention to drink and all other kinds of fun soon.

well, many of us might not regard smoking as mucb fun...

everything madpiere says +1
this is a bit like having a more literate alterego g

Oi! Less of the literate accusations!

As for the beards thing in ST. I must admit they have been starting to worry me.....!

Having just re-visited this thread I'm certainly looking forward to my post night ride pint tonight!

Don't worry though - I have to drive home after so there's no danger of it turning into a massive binge and me being an alcoholic before the weekend is out! 😉

Oh and mods: can you remove any references to alcohol from this entire forum in case any young folk read it and are corrupted into the evil that is a post ride pint?