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Chilled76 the black bit cutting across the cliff (right name?)
I actually got grief for buying my new covert frame in 26" flavour. I have no beef with 29ers, or 650b (a few of the guys in my Sunday ride group have them) but It's my bike, and I'll ride what I want thanks very much. 8)
"What would Bill say."
Until he saw this.
[url= http://www.sixfifty.com/knowledge/about-650b.aspx ]Boils my piss[/url]
Boils my piss
Why? It's a pro-650 site, no shock that they're looking for all the positives and ignoring the rest to suit their spin. It's just someones opinion based on what wheel gives them the feedback they're looking for.
That's all the wheel-size choice thing is imo, feedback. Not performance, that's too hard to define. And that makes it a highly personal thing and debating what's better pretty much pointless. The market movement around it is another thing, but use your wallet-vote if you feel strongly about keeping 26" stuff. There's not much bike kit that is unavailable to those that want it, and it'll create opportunities for smaller brands if the general market does continue swing away from it.
Major brands seem to be keeping 26 in their DH bike lineup - there's an obvious reason for this!
You could ride 99% of Cannock on a CX bike.
No I don't think [b]you[/b] could as you posted up about how you struggled on your all singing all dancing Peak slaying gnarpoon.
If you really want a wheel size vote with your wallet/badger manufactures.
It's what us early adopters of the wagon wheel had to do.
In response to the OP 26inch rims seem to work quite well on DH bikes and fatbikes.
The funniest thing to me is that it's only really the 'can only ever be 26"' crowd that feed these threads. You whip yourself up in to such a state, keep it up. 😆
Because it's pish, and all pro 650b diagrams demonstrating the wheel difference are always not to scale, enforcing the fictional 27.5 in the middle best of both worlds pish.
Because showing to scale and calling it 27 which it is would not serve their purpose so well.
And may make people instead question the fact it's not April first is it.
I have a 29er and and 26er (both HT).
I really really like my 29er. It's much faster than the 26er, rolls over stuff better, goes down stuff more confidently.
Right now though I ride the 26er almost exclusively because it's just so much fun.
i agree with chestrockwell, its all a bit
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my wheel size is obsolete 🙁
Major brands seem to be keeping 26 in their DH bike lineup - there's an obvious reason for this!
Not for much longer:
650 blah, the middle ground, the safe choice, the not quite, the compromise to grey - go big, go small or go home. 🙂
I heard a rumour people buy 29'rs because they are compensating for 3 inches less in the general penis area. 🙄
In all seriousness. I've given up with this world. Can't we all just get along ...?
I always say 'ah clown bike' when I see a 29'er to the owner.
The owners always accept my comment. As they should.
Please keep buying 650b and clown wheelers everybody I'm loving the split new 26'r bargain stuff !!! 🙂
i agree with chestrockwell, its all a bit
Not so much, just if it is a genuine advantage why lie and mislead.
There was an interview with someone in the industry where the interviewer kept referring to the standard as 27.5 and the independent bike builder referred to it as 650b. At some point the interviewer pick up on this and asked why the builder preferred to call it 650b, to be told quite matter of factly because it's not 27.5 and to call it that was misleading.
If it is better, then tell it as it is . Don't take me for an idiot and try and mug me off with bullshit.
I always say 'ah clown bike' when I see a 29'er to the owner.
Don't clown bikes have small wheels...
I normaly just say hello to people on bikes and don't give a flying chuff what type of bike they're on never mind what size the wheels are.
Then again I'm not a **** like you appear to be. 🙂
Is anyone actually misled though ?
I bought my bike because it had great reviews and I liked the colour scheme 🙂
I wasnt forced to just coz it had 650b wheels
And I can't see myself ditching my old lava dome or Dh bike anytime soon just coz the wheels are an endangered species
idiot, bullshit, mugged - I think you are taking it all a it too seriously
Its just business, advertising and all that jazz
You could ride 99% of Cannock on a CX bike.
And you'd be much quicker than everyone on MTBs. It's about as tame as MTBing gets trail centre wise...
When buying a new bike I think about two things.
Do I like the way it rides and can I afford it.
If the answer to both of these is yes then i buy it.
What a random person on a forum thinks of it has no importance to me.
Singlespeedstu
Your name is the female equivilent of Jane.
Your name is the female equivilent of Jane.
I thought Jane was a female name...
Maybe put the keyboard down now. You appear to be either drunk or more of a fool than you normaly are.
Like others have said, my only real concern is that parts, spares upgrades will continue to be available for all the various wheel size choices. I don't care what anyone rides but I do worry that we are at a point where anyone one or two of the currently available wheel sizes could be quickly dropped by the industry rendering them obsolete in relation to spares .
26, dead, phaaaa
When I recently bought my new forks, only the 26" ones were at or just below RRP. 29 and 650b or 27.5 whatevertheflip its called were discounted way more. I guess that's because stock of 29 or that other size isn't shifting.
Wonder why ? Not that popular perhaps? Not that many about?
Hmmmmm?
What's going on here?
Do I need to leave all my bikes on the kerbside so the local scrap-pikey can do me a favour and dispose of my obsolete 26 inch scrap?
And why did the OP say 'waist'........?
STOP!
I'm about to buy a 2nd hand 24" DMR Reptoid.
Yeah, backwards logic. ****fuddery, this whole debacle.
4 pages in but we can't figure out why someones caliper has seized on another thread? Bananas.
Has Pinkbike lost some serious arsehole clickbait this week? maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! 😈
When I recently bought my new forks, only the 26" ones were at or just below RRP. 29 and 650b or 27.5 whatevertheflip its called were discounted way more. I guess that's because stock of 29 or that other size isn't shifting.
It's probably more about the fact there's a lot more OE spec of 650 and 29 than 26 this year. And there's still demand for aftermarket 26 forks for bikes out there a few years and the old forks are worn out, but there's fewer forks about - less reason to discount.
I should not be that bothered really, I have perfectly serviceable bikes for the moment and if that changes worry about it then.
You don't get honest salesmen if you did they would be on the breadline.
I don't buy bike mags, but if they are anything like the airgun mags I used to subscribe to where I never ever read a bad review of any of the guns they reviewed, may be me being cynical but could have something to do with the full page adverts for the same guns in the magazine.
Its just the very bikes the industry was touting as fantastic last year are now fundamentally floored because they say so.
Made me think of this,
All he said was his 29er was faster than his 26er and its true they are ,that dont mean 26 is dead it just means if he comes across you he will have ye for breakfast ,if ye want to ride 26ers thats fine just dont bleat on about how 29ers are sh one t .Its your choice make and shut up losers.
I thought the op had been quickly outed as a troll and the thread then rightfully high jacked to do a bit of 650b bashing.
No need to bash 29ers as they are no threat. I did see one once though, may even have been the op, as he was not hanging about.
The reason why the 26" is dead is because it has already died as far as R&D in bicycle Companies is concerned. This stopped on all 26" platform bikes from the Worlds Largest Bicycle Manufacturers about 2 years ago. Of course you will see mostly 26" bikes out on the trails as they have been the de facto choice since the birth of Mountain Bikes. 29" wheel bikes have been a very slow birth and the Mountain Bike customer has become very conservative and protective of his/her sport over the last 10 years. Its taken a long time for 29" to get to where it is today and it wasn't until Fork, rim and tyre manufacturers got on board with it that it took off.
Its funny that people think the wheel debate is about marketing because many people in the Industry were more negative about having to stock more SKUs which is bad for business and hits your stock turn.
Now that the Industry is already geared up for a two sized approach to wheels its an easy step to question the logic of the 26" wheel. The reality states that the 29" has brought some good gains and that bigger COULD be better. However, if we can move 26" a little bigger we get some additional benefit without too much of the negative...here lies the sweet spot....Perhaps!!
The fact of the matter is this....26" is not being developed....26" will only be offered as an entry level price point in most brands portfolio if they offer it at all and this will fuel the perception that 26" is 1. old and 2. well..entry level. This will speed up the decline of this wheel size.
There is nothing wrong with 26" wheel bikes. Somebody is not going to kick your ass because they have bigger wheels. The Industry is just evolving. Don't moan about it....this is the founding principle of MTBing.
PP - your Kona needs [url= http://www.ebay.com/itm/Joe-Murray-Reaction-Pair-of-Tires-Kona-Fat-Rocky-Norco-Brodie-Klein-Trek-Voodoo-/231163394442?pt=US_Tires&hash=item35d269798a ]these tires[/url] on it! (no connection at all to the sale, just came across it yesterday)
i felt no pleasure from passing the "26 ain't dead" T shirt wearing rider in a race yesterday on my 29er
[i]The fact of the matter is this....26" is not being developed....[/i]
by the major manufacturers.
having said that, it's just a wheel size, everything is changeable, handlebars, geometry, suspension...why not wheel size? I don't get why people get so wound up by it.
Given the general reluctance of this forum community to embrace any other kind of Conspiracy Theories, this continually claimed wheel size 'bike industry' conspiracy by some here, seems a little.... Wrong.
Crippo +1
I'm seeing 26" specific parts going a lot cheaper, especially the higher end stuff (new anyway). New black stanchioned RS 120mm SIDs QR15 £410 compared to £540 on CRC, 2013 AM All Mountains 40% off RRP etc. Even retailers seem to think it.
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corners at higher speed
every ride is a race
If you don't measure your fun factor by how many tenths you are off gee or hart, you may as well sit on the couch and play on the PS4/XBone.
😉
So every single (adult) bike I saw on yesterdays ride was a 26er. Are 29ers and 650b's virtually non-existent? or are they so fast that I can't see them?
thought the op had been quickly outed as a troll
101%
Well racing yesterday I'd say 80% of the bikes were 29ers, but that's racing & trying to go as fast as possible rather than playing in the woods, so I guess if going fast is your thing choose a bigger wheel and who doesn't like going fast and scaring themselves?
Well racing yesterday I'd say 80% of the bikes were 29ers, but that's racing & trying to go as fast as possible rather than playing in the woods, so I guess if going fast is your thing choose a bigger wheel and who doesn't like going fast and scaring themselves?
Slightly simplistic assessment of things but I admire your attempt to antagonise.
I always say 'ah clown bike' when I see a 29'er to the owner.The owners always accept my comment. As they should.
google image search 'clown bike' and rethink this.
Well racing yesterday I'd say 80% of the bikes were 29ers, but that's racing & trying to go as fast as possible rather than playing in the woods, so I guess if going fast is your thing choose a bigger wheel and who doesn't like going fast and scaring themselves?
by that argument, DH racing is 'the fastest', and they are mostly on 26ers...
Until I can get a selection of tyres that suit me and my needs I will be staying put in my little out of date 26 inch world.
At the moment only High Rollers seem to be available in dual ply flavour and they come at a salty price.
What about my poor 6yr old son he rode bits of cannock on his 18" BMX with a huge a grin on his face, have I got to tell him it's "more than dead!!"