I like quite hubs especially on the cx bike when a lot of my time is coasting/navigating around the trails or with the bike on my shoulder (back wheel next to my ear). Even with a quiet clicking it can drive me crazy.
I'm looking into some new wheels I thought open pro 2's but hope hubs are about the loudest in the business.
so are there any other hubs as good as hope but quite?
shimano are quiet and way better 😉
I currently have Fulcrum 7's on the cx bike and would ideally like to go quieter. I think they are shimano?
I currently have Fulcrum 7's on the cx bike and would ideally like to go quieter. I think they are shimano?
No, they are Fulcrum (Campag)
Shimano hubs are quiet, and good too.
is there much difference between the shimano hubs 105-xtr(more in terms of reliability/rebuild ability)
Depends if you are OK with having cup and cone bearings
sefton - not much difference, but as TJ says they usually need more maintenance.
Depends if you are OK with having cup and cone bearings
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I basically need to some wheels for my cx bike that are as tough & reliable as they come (and ideally quiet)
I have used XTR for 5 years covering thousands of miles with just the odd service but what puts me off from purcahsing them again is that if you buy QR hubs then you are stuck with QR, they cant be converted...
My mavuc askiums are pretty quiet so is imagine higher spec wheels from ma ic would be similar? I agree though, I love the look of hope, like the quality and would like to support a company I respect, but I also hate that clicking!
Hopes and other similar hubs have cartridge bearings, Shimano have cup and cone. very much a Marmite thing. I would always have cartridge. others will have different views
whats the difference though? marmite with regards to what?
Cup and cone can be taken apart greased and "adjusted for wear" cartridge bearing are fit and replace when worn. IMO / IME cartridge bearing give far superior results better longevity and Smoother with the exception of possible cup and cone is freer running when 100%. Others will disagree.
I don't know the part number but my Voodoo came with a set of Formula cartridge hubs- they seem decent and the rear is absolutely silent and spins forever. Can't say I've been overjoyed with Formula ones in the past but then usually I've had the cheap rubbish Shimano copies, these seem a pretty different animal
Stealth hubs - so called for a reason...
tough & reliability are top of the list followed by quite.
I would think Shimano would be as well made as the hope hubs. the RS80's came highly recommended.
the wheels will be for the 3peaks so need to take some abuse and be around the £300 mark
My only experience of Shimano hubs is XT. I think cup and cone is better than cartridge (once you get the knack of messing about with the cone spanners, and it hardly needs doing that often) but I've never been able to get an XT freehub to last long before it starts skipping.
Both my 240s are pretty quiet, not silent but quiet enough to sneak up on people if you wanted.
Mmm... My 240s are a bit erratic, sometimes they're silent, sometimes they're purry, sometimes they're a bit clicky, and sometimes they make noise round half a spin but not the other half. Doesn't bother me at all but I think it'd drive the OP insane in pretty short order.
cartridge bearing hubs-potentially last forever as the bearing can be replaced
cup and cone bearings-if not carefully adjusted can wear out on the cup, effectively meaning new hub
My exage hubs are 21 years old 
A few replacement sets of BBs in them but otherwise good as new, no idea how many thousand miles they've done but it's more than every other wheel I've ever owned, combined. Not too shabby,
RD-cups can be replaced.
I like Hope hubs but opted for some XTR on my tourer/CX bike as I didn't want the Hope level of noise when touring.
"RD-cups can be replaced"
Which cup is this?
The driveside (in freehub) or non-driveside in the hub body?
James, both.
I would have said Royce until my front wheel suffered strange and catastrophic failure overnight and I came down in the morning to find a third of the flange(?) had sheared, taking spokes with it...
Trusted and well experienced wheel builder, was replaced with many apologies and sent back to Royce for analysis. Never heard anything back.
Bought Hope every since.
that happens to hope too...
what tj said plus xt freehubs are made of cheese 😕
yes but you'll need to pay more for high end cartridge hubs like CK.. maybe consider superstar? wouldn't go shimano - can be quiet, but usually means they're failing...
I've got Aksiums on my CX bike and they've been pretty much faultless for the past two and a half years ( I did have to true them a bit after a slight mishap on my way home from work across the Quantocks last week).
I can't say they make enough noise for me to really notice.
Since first servicing my Pro IIs they have been almost silent. Not sure what I'm doing wrong/right, but I think it's easy to make them quieter simply by lubing the pawls and ratchet.
Superstar hubs are excellent, and quite quiet.
Hope's are much quieter if you keep the ratchet bit lubed with oil instead of grease (this is a tripple whammy as it also stops them freezing up and helps them freewheel much easier... consider it a free upgrade).
stupid question....but can shimano mtb hubs xt/xtr be used to build a strong rd wheel?
if rd means road then the answers is "sort of"
road frames are 130mm spacing while mtbs (and it looks like disc'd road/cx frames have settled on) are 135mm
a 135mm hub will fit in a 130 frame but it's not ideal.
I'm not sure why you'd bother in this instance. ime shimano mtb and road hubs have similar levels of sealing.
The hub won't make the slightest difference in strength if used on a road wheel.
and to the original question, if you grease a hope hub well it'll be pretty quiet.
Novatec of eBay, apparently the same as superstar ones.