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[Closed] Anyone seen a Cracked Yeti SB-66?! One here! Pics inside

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Just sounding this out for a mate really. He has had the frame for 5 months and rides local woods and he had 6days in Morzine on it. He barely gets airborne and doesn't ride too hard...he's only been riding 'properly' for 1yr.

He is gutted but I assured him Yeti are good with warrenties (they used to be) are they still good?

Any thoughts?

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Posted : 12/08/2012 8:27 pm
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[i]tis but a scratch[/i]


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 8:28 pm
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I don't see how they couldn't warranty that tbh. Silverfish will sort him out.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 8:32 pm
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Posted : 12/08/2012 8:34 pm
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Ah silverfish for Yeti is it? Well that's good as they are 10mins from us.

Pretty crap for what it cost. IMHO feels crap too...the suspension design isn't my Cupra tea


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 8:49 pm
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From what I know of them, the warranty is really good. But it seems that it needs to be.

Are Yeti the new "crack'n'fail"?


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 8:55 pm
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That's two I've seen now. Same place as my mates. Mind you he did rag it and jumped road gaps etc. He also went through bushings. He had it about 8 months.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 9:21 pm
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Hmm. Not the reliable brand they used to be then? My old DH-8 was bombproof! My mate does want something beefier, with 180mm+ travel next so maybe thats his best bet. He's hardly ragged this and it broke so I don't hold out much hope for when he improves and hits jumps etc...it would literally fall to bits


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 9:43 pm
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Best thing to do is tell him to get something with 0mm of travel at the rear. Then he can learn how to ride with a bit of finesse!


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 9:54 pm
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He'll get better the longer he rides.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 9:56 pm
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Bad luck. Hope it gets sorted. I think people underestimate how brutal Morzine can be on bikes. Especially the new breed of long travel lightweight Enduro bikes. That make it easier to travel at DH bike speeds.
With a crack like that I can't see them not replacing it.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 9:58 pm
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Same as mine, but it didn't get that bad. They replaced it pretty smartly.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 10:16 pm
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Overpriced tat not like they used to be but demand is so great these days.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 10:22 pm
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Tbh he's too old to be worried about riding with finesse! Starting the sport at almost 40 his main concern is keeping up with those of us in the riding group that haven ridden/raced since we could walk (well almost).

I think your right about Morzine...very hard on all your kit. My brand new m810 ss mech is floppy as jelly after 7days out there!

As for the brand, your right it doesn't appear to be what they used to be. Especially for the money.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 10:39 pm
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Srhame as I like the bigtop but £1k is cutting it fine on boiling point of lashing out at the yetis marketing department.


 
Posted : 12/08/2012 10:57 pm
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Good luck Yeti wouldn't warrenty my almost 2 year old 575 after the dropout broke, the carbon part was fine.

Their response was

Aluminum does fatigue, and after several years of normal riding it’s not unheard of to see stress related failures.

So much for a 5 year warrenty then, hence will not be touching a yeti again.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:19 am
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Good luck Yeti wouldn't warrenty my almost 2 year old 575 after the dropout broke, the carbon part was fine.


They were fine with my nearly 3 yr old 575 when the swing arm broke

To the OP - surely this is the responsibility of the retailer to replace rather than the importers?
at least as far as the end user is concerned


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:25 am
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This thread is well timed, I was looking closely at SB66's.
Knowing about the rubbish warranty would be enough, but they also have a tyre/seat tube interface issue!
No thanks!


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:30 am
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I'd have probaly spoke to the shop before posting about it online.

if they say "no" you can mention you'll post it.

Can't see warranty being a problem. on a 5 month old frame unless it was second hand.

9 times out of 10, the people who get get bad service through warranty get it for a reason.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:33 am
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A Yeti cracked at the chainstay?

Well I never...


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:34 am
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Aluminum does fatigue, and after several years of normal riding it’s not unheard of to see stress related failures.

I hope you didn't let them get away with that! It's almost an admission of the frame being unfit for purpose if it failed 2 years into a 5 year warranty.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:54 am
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Nothing wrong with the warrenty on mine. No problem with the tyre hitting the seat tube either.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 8:57 am
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I think that is a good demonstration how rough and rutted the Morzine trails are


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 9:05 am
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Not the reliable brand they used to be then? My old DH-8 was bombproof!

Owing the fact tha bikes are still mostly ade from the same material than 15 year ago, bigger but lighter bike can only mean one thing 😉


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 9:06 am
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I'm sure he won't have a problem with warrenty. He's well known by the shop where he bought it and they know he won't have trashed it through misuse.

I just thought i would see what the folks on here thought of it.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 12:09 pm
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I've had no problems with mine - don't let a few isolated incidents cloud your judgment.

There is a tyre/seat tube issue but not what i'd call a problem. I run a set of Hans Dampf tyres which are big, tall tyres. I've only once had the tyre rub and even then, only to take the mud build up off the seat tube. Running normal 2.3 or smaller tyres won't cause an issue. Tolerences are tight on bikes these days and manufacturers make recommendations re: tyres sizes, fork lengths etc with good reason.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 12:26 pm
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Yes I agree, they can't all be bad. From riding it for a couple runs though I have to say I wasn't impressed. The suspension felt clunky (possibly as the switch link thing kicks in?) and not smooth at all.

I much prefer the ibis mojo hd that another guy in the group has and the orange 5 someone else has. IMHO there are better frames on the market.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 12:34 pm
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Each to their own eh? We'd all ride the same bike otherwise.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 12:39 pm
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^^ absolutely. Back when all the DH boys were all riding Iron Horse Sundays and banging on about how awesome they were I bought one because of all the hype...had it a month and sold it. Bloody hated it! Only YOU know what works for you, all the reviews and comments in the world can't tell you how it'll work for the individual.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 12:53 pm
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Only YOU know what works for you, all the reviews and comments in the world can't tell you how it'll work for the individual.

Totally agree..7yrs ago if I had decided not to try a Kona Dawg vs all there "best in class" bikes I would not have found "the bike" for me 💡 Took me 3yrs and lots of test/demo days before finding a fs bike I was happy parting lots of cash on. Yeti were one of the first to be discounted, too fragile for my liking!


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:01 pm
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aren't yetis made primarily for the US market? bunch of mincers over there with their skinny tyres and gloop free trails....

and to the OP and anyone else with warrenty issues: do you think the manufacturer/distributor is going to look favourably on you if you start shouting about a defect on the net before they have had a chance to talk to you/look at the issue?

IMO, best to keep schtumm till you have spoken to them. then if you are not happy with the outcome then is the time to shout as loudly as you can about their crappy service.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:13 pm
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bikes break.

my AS-X was pretty bombproof - but a 9.5lb frame would want to be

that said, how many times can you drop a bike and rider from a 3' brick wall to the pavement and expect it to hold together? Same goes for Morzine and breaking bumps - they aint called breaking for nothing i guess.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:31 pm
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It's not my frame and I'm not bad mouthing or anything. Like people have said, bikes brake. It happens. I think people worry too much about what the company can do, at the end of the day this is a cycling community and people can openly talk about the experiences.

So far my mates is not a good or bad one (he's going to the shop today) so no opinion on the service or warrenty has been expressed.

It's just someone saying, "guys look at this" and "what do you think?"


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:38 pm
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Its not breaking bumps its braking bumps and if a £1700 long travel frame cant take some braking bumps im not interested in one.

Also guy in my local shop said that Yeti were warrantying any frame that had the issue of tyre rubbing the frame as it was a fault ( I was asking cos the SB66 carbon was on the wall and it looked really nice).

Yeti are becoming the Crank Bros of frame builders - look great, dont work


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:44 pm
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sorry, 😉 (breaking/braking)

bit harsh to say Yeti dont work, as years of evidence shows otherwise.

anyone else want to mention any frames that have had issues? I bought my Mega after they had a load of chainstay issues. The Hemlock had a pretty disasterous first batch with the linkage plates....


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:50 pm
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Any thoughts?

Yeah, I would have thought it would have cracked from bottom to top not top to bottom i.e. the direction of travel.


 
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It's just someone saying, "guys look at this" and "what do you think?"

True but its already caused one forum member to say .. .

This thread is well timed, I was looking closely at SB66's.
Knowing about the rubbish warranty would be enough, but they also have a tyre/seat tube interface issue!
No thanks!

When we've not even been contacted by the shop who sold it yet.

My own personal view is that I'd rather not see us or Yeti getting panned for poor service if neither of us have even had the opportunity to speak to the shop about it let alone get involved but that wont cloud the decision.

If its a warranty it gets replaced. If its not a warrnty it doesnt. If we're frustrated at being unfairly bad mouthed on forums (which i'm not suggesting is happening here but does happen) we have to just soak that up and get on with it.

I just wish people were as quick to comment when they've received good service. . .


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 1:58 pm
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Yeti have problems time after time though - Loads of 575s with chainstay issues, loads of ASR5s now have them, and lots of 66s too.

Making one mistake - like Nukeproof did, and subsequently sent a free chainstay to everyone just in case - is very different to a pattern of repeated problems on different models


 
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To be fair ritchie, it was roos post;

Good luck Yeti wouldn't warrenty my almost 2 year old 575 after the dropout broke, the carbon part was fine.

Their response was

Aluminum does fatigue, and after several years of normal riding it’s not unheard of to see stress related failures.

So much for a 5 year warrenty then, hence will not be touching a yeti again.


Which influenced my post rather than yetimanstus (or whatever).
A cursory look at the MTBR Yeti forum (which i'd have done before purchase anyway) has affected my decision more than this thread. The first page seems full of people with issues with their SB66s!

I am in the market though and you've already had some business from me (I have a turner currently!) and I've had good service from silverfish in the past.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 2:09 pm
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Yeti have problems time after time though - Loads of 575s with chainstay issues, loads of ASR5s now have them, and lots of 66s too.

A cursory look at the MTBR Yeti forum (which i'd have done before purchase anyway) has affected my decision more than this thread. The first page seems full of people with issues with their SB66s!

. . .and there in lies the problem with forums.

There must be, literally, thousands of those frames out being ridden day in day out by all sorts of people in all sorts of terrain with no issues what so ever.
They dont hit the forums to state this though. This threads a great example of that.
This chap wasnt previously posting comments to say how much his pal liked his SB66 was he? But the minute there's a fault . . .


 
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They dont hit the forums to state this though.

I think they do. Forums are full of people telling the world how much they love their bike. It's only when there a multiple instances and when problems seem common that potential customers get twitchy.

. . .and there in lies the problem with forums.

Again, and with respect; I'm not entirely sure I agree. If a product has problems (and I'm not suggesting the SB66 has) then it's only right that people tell others. Same thing if a product is brilliant. That's why we all do so much research before we spend thousands of pounds on bicycles.


 
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. . .and there in lies the problem with forums.

There must be, literally, thousands of those frames out being ridden day in day out by all sorts of people in all sorts of terrain with no issues what so ever.

Thousands of bikes from other brands out there too - but "Yeti" and "snapped chainstay" seems to be a recurring theme. Maybe my perception is wrong - as you say, people tend to highlight the bad, ahead of the good - but personally, I wouldn't have a Yeti, and it's mainly because of what seems to me to be a disproportionate number of those stories of people snapping chainstays, and snapping the replacement, and so on and so on.


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 2:25 pm
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richie - what's considered an 'acceptable' failure rate on frames (as a percentage) that results in a warranty replacement?

These will be the ones with a manufacturing defect ,rather than wear and tear/abnormal use.

I'd expect it to be a vanishingly small number on a frame costing as much as an SB66.

It's not only about how you react after the event, it's also about the fact that the event happened in the first place.


 
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I just wish people were as quick to comment when they've received good service. . .

I think people have here, in my case albeit with Evolution as the Yeti distributor


 
Posted : 13/08/2012 2:27 pm
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A cursory look at the MTBR Yeti forum (which i'd have done before purchase anyway) has affected my decision more than this thread. The first page seems full of people with issues with their SB66s!

About 3 out of 40 threads by my count.
& I love my 66. Yes, it did crack, but that was sorted quickly. Funnily enough, my last 2 FS bikes both cracked at the swingarm. Both sorted under warranty.


 
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