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FWIW we had a great day out - miserable weather for most of the mornings & struggled with the navigation in places - my app reckons I spend over one-and-a-half hours stationary ! (and I am reasonably competent with a map!!) ... but I understand the issues that the organisers have down there with some of the locals.
Did I enjoy the riding & will I be back next year - definitely yes...
Thanks to all concerned for a good day out.
Thats ok then so we will all ride through sssi sites and other sensitive country areas and undo good work that has been done.Remember the countryside is not our playground it all belongs to someone and is by and large a working environment.Better to approach Landowners before hand and ask permission to ride stuff ,they don't all 12 bore you first you know.
Is a Stumpjupmer a bicycle rather like a Stumpjumper or is it the pram I found when I googled jupmer?
I was going to detail loads of things here, but there are people who would have got all hit up and started name calling again (which most if us grew out of 25 years ago)
anyhow, I don't see why you were quoting from a victorian version of an act that is reviewed on average every 10 years. The countryside and rights of way act 2000 clearly states all the facts I've been stating. A link to it is here:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000037_en_1
please don't try and argue this as like you say, you work in IT and I have worked in and around the enviromental sector for the past 13 years.
My point in the begining if this thread was the simple question of did anybody have the simple courtesy to ask the people who manage this land if you could use their resourse. I know you don't have to, but courtesy goes a long way.
People always moan about angry farmers, but does anyone ever think why.
You probably won't get arested for riding on a footpath, but you can gave civil action taken against you fir amongst others; trespass, agrivated trespass (which is also a legal mater where you were asked to leave and didn't or were told not to go and did). You can be done for criminal damage and worst case, if there is a group of you then you can be done for holding meeting under the trespass and public order laws.
There are a group of riders around wells who insist on riding around arthurs point (Milton hill). This is private land owned by a friend of mine. Please can whoever it is stop doing it as it is causing me grief with my friends. I have an idea who it is, but don't want to get involved.
PS, I think people are also getting confused by the diference between a footpath (pavement) and a public footpath but if you read the CROW act then all will become clear.
Sorry Andych but that last statement was utter botox & throws into doubt anything else you have written........ there is no way on earth that you have any friends 😉
What I was pointing out was that the laws stupijumper was quoting was A: out of date and B: covering surfaced pavements and not public footpaths in the countryside. I seem to have managed to have provided the correct information through a simple bit if resarch and knowledge rather than just hitting the copy and paste button as seems the norm here.
If you really want to get into rights of way law, then a footpath is the one on the definative map that OS show as either a red or green dotted line. These are PROWs. If a path does not feature this line, then you do not necicaraly have any right to walk or ride on it. This can be the case through private woods, forestry comm land and through housing estates etc.
If you want to start quoting archaic laws from 150 years ago then there is one that sugests that if you are trespasing on land with equipment other than that appropriate to your situation. Then that equipment can be siezed and disposed of by the landowner. This HAS happened to a motocross bike that was stopped on blackdown when I worked with the wardens and I belive has happened a couple of times on the quantocks.
Can't be bothered with this anymore. It's gone so far from my original civil question that I seem to be having arguments with people I don't know who can't even use their real names!!