I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week'. Even more so when you're in the process of selling stuff. I agree with the OP, I'd be worried if I'd paid for something however small (but £40 bars aren't a cheap thing).
As said, if you're in the process of selling stuff you should make an effort to be in contact with your buyers. Especially when you're selling the same item twice!
I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week'.
Ever been to less developed areas? Like Sub-Saharan Africa? Or Basingstoke? 😉
actually, I stand corrected. watsontony lives in Blackburn apparently so there you are. The third world...
Ever been to less developed areas? Like Sub-Saharan Africa? Or Basingstoke?
Has Rockon Tommy ?? 😉
But why did two people get emails saying they would be posted?I'm confused, if I paid for something and then found out so did someone else id be pretty miffed too.
Watsup this isnt aimed at you specifically just to say I think the op and exup acted on what evidence they have.
The pinkbike ban is coincidental but wouldn't have felt like that to me as the buyer
Given what was known at the time it was not an overreaction as the cause was mainly him selling bars to two people at the same time which is easily avoided. Then seein ghim banned elsewhere and no comms by various methods and I think many folk would have acted as the op tbh.
Some bad luck for him to loose all means of communication via internet and phone at the same time too for a week.
If i was selling stuff i would have gone to say a library or a friends house or used works computer or someone elses phone or a cafe or a free wi fi spot to contact folk who would be expecting goods I said i had posted.
Seems there's a lot of people round here with nothing better to do than sharpen pitchforks.
Some bad luck for him to loose all means of communication via internet and phone at the same time too for a week.
If i was selling stuff i would have gone to say a library or a friends house or used works computer or someone elses phone or a cafe or a free wi fi spot to contact folk who would be expecting goods I said i had posted.
Too right, without travelling to the middle of a desert is pretty much impossible to be without Internet access for a week if you actually want to find it.
It's very easy not to care or bother though 😉
Never mind not having Internet for a week, something's I read on here make me wish it had never been invented
so, just to satisfy my curiosity...
Did watsontony actually agree sales with both parties or did one of them just assume they'd got the bars and make a payment whilst w_t was dealing with the other one and posting them out (possibly)?
That crossed my mind wwaswas. Easily done
I think Exup should just apologise and stop being so stubborn.
when I opened this I thought it would be about watsontonys mates bike turning up.
I'm confused, if I paid for something and then found out so did someone else id be pretty miffed too.
It's fair to expect an explanation for this.
when I opened this I thought it would be about watsontonys mates bike turning up.
Was that the floro yellow Transition downhill bike that he commuted to work on and left in an outside bike shed?
I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week'
That's a ridiculous thing to say and you know it.
I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week
That's a moronic thing to say and you know it.
Damn - although this mass debate had nothing to do with me whatsoever I still got my pitch fork AND scythe out ready for action.
Oh well, back they go...
He's a witch - BURN HIM!
How do you know he's a witch?
He looks like one...
Cheers
Danny B
That's a ridiculous thing to say and you know it.
Not its not.
That's a moronic thing to say and you know it.
No its not.
Thanks for the concern though. Its good to know there are people out there telling me that what I know to be true is actually wrong. I don't know how I'd cope without you.
Thanks x
OK DWB - I'll bite.
Depends on what you me by 'you can't'
Do you mean you will cease to function, exist, be remembered by anyone up to and including your own family?
Or, do you mean that it is difficult to be in an area (of the UK in particular) that doesn't have internet and thus its actually very hard to be away from the internet whether you like it or not and therefore you actually can't get away from the web. You will be forced to use it wherever you are?
By 'can't' do you mean its simply not permitted to be without the interent - is this by law or mere social etiquette?
Or, do you mean you, as in DWB, can't imagine being without internet for a week and it is not something you would ever contemplate.
Only if you mean the last point are you right in any way what so ever...
Cheers
Danny B
I sent Tony several emails, tried his phone, tried to contact him through ebay all to no avail. I'm sorry that it has come to this but think that there was sufficient evidence for me to become concerned. There is culpability on all sides, while I understand that the double payment may have caused a bit of confusion his end (although I have to ask why a double payment was allowed to happen, poor comms?)but we both got emails saying that payment had been revieved and the goods would be dispatched asap! I can also think of no reason why the at least the pedals could not have been dispatched when promised. All this, plus the Pinkbike information did make me think something was wrong. For this reason I aired my thoughts on the forum, rightly or wrongly, but it was posted in good faith by Chopchop, i.e. if you know Tony ask him to get in touch. Up until this afternoon I was of the belief that I was being scammed, for the reasons above, and for that reason i placed a winning bid on his shocks advertised on ebay, my rational being that I didn't want anyone else to get stung. In retrospect, and with the value of hindsite not with me, I appreciate that this was wrong, but again, to me it was a well intentioned action. I have emailed tony asking him to get in touch so that I can speak to him in person re this.
You bought something off a private seller on a classifieds and because you didn't hear from him for a couple of days you trashed his ebay auction? Idiot.
Rorschach - MemberI'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week
That's a moronic thing to say and you know it.
One of the most moronic things I've heard this week. I was in Wales last week with very poor 3G reception so gave up on Internet till I got home. Not everyone sits in front of a computer all day.
DBW, consider this.
Broken router/hardware/ISP issues at home.
No smartphone.
Job that doesnt require internet access.
I've hardly suggested a ridiculous situation there, but it leaves one without easy internet access.
I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week
If you firmly believe that, then I pity your life 😐
Dear old Grannybgoode has lived for well over 93 years without an internet connection - beats watsontony's week by a far stretch.
How's she managed - simples, she's never had or needed it...
Cheers
Danny B
Blimey the truth comes out. Did Tim Berners-Lee take the credit for Grannybgoode's invention?
Thanks hammerite - now corrected...
Cheers
Danny B
Dear old Grannybgoode has lived for well over 93 years with an internet connection - beats watsontony's week by a far stretch.
How's she managed - simples, she's never had or needed it...
Cheers
Danny B
She probably doesn't sell much stuff on Forums and eBay though does she ?
If she did, she would probably find it quite useful to log on once in a while to find out who she needed to post stuff to.
That is irrelevant NG - DWB's statement is categorically that you can't live without the internet for a week (and by inference longer than this also, I can't see he meant you can't for a week but you can for 2 weeks - just weeding out any pendantry here).
I am merely pointing out that you can. he offered no clarifying statements such as 'you can't if x, y, z...'.
Cheers
Danny B
I've been to loads of locations in the UK for weeks holiday where I've had no internet access via 3g.
Having said that I wouldn't sell something if I was going to be in that position.
That is irrelevant NG - DWB's statement is categorically that you can't live without the internet for a week
He didn't say that you can't "live" without the Internet.
If you are going to be pedantic, and pick one small part of his post to argue against, then expect other people to do the same 😉
His point (which you have ignored) was that if someone is in the process of selling stuff, they should make sure they are online to deal with it.
And I had presumed he meant that "in this day and age" it's almost impossible to not be able to get online at all for a week if you actually need to.
But pedantry will win in the end, so I am out 🙂
Thanks for the concern though. Its good to know there are people out there telling me that what I know to be true is actually wrong. I don't know how I'd cope without you.
Thanks x
you're as daft as a brush innit pal..?
I can click on my friends list on facebook right now and spot 50 folk that don't have any internet connection.. plus 50 more with an unreliable one and at least another 100 without a smartphone..
the guy was incommunicado for a few days over the weekend.. a bit thoughtless maybe but good for him I reckon..
the witch hunters are out of order and your statement about interconnect connection is blummin myopic.. perhaps obtuse and pedantic at best..
that is all.. 😐
As I'm in an argumentative mood I quote in full
'I'm sorry but in this day and age, you can't 'be without the internet for a week'. Even more so when you're in the process of selling stuff. I agree with the OP, I'd be worried if I'd paid for something however small (but £40 bars aren't a cheap thing)'
That to me reads that you cannot live without the internet for more than a week - full stop.
And then that, woe betide if you are considering even attempting the impossible, you shouldn't do so if you are selling something online.
Don't out pendant me damn you... 😉
Cheers
Danny B
That to me reads....
Fair enough.
Interpretations differ.
I'm still intrigued as to the whereabouts of my pedals btw...
Are they nearly there yet?
wysiwyg - Member
I'm still intrigued as to the whereabouts of my pedals btw...
Lol
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I'm still intrigued as to the whereabouts of my pedals btw...
Ssssssshhhhhhhh.
Someone will tell you off for wanting what you've paid for 😉
Another weekend passes by.. Meanwhile I'm shunting down the track on a velocipede
If it's any consolation, there's been no sign of a refund or the bars either.
Edit: yes, I know Watsontony isnt a megastore online retailer blah blah and these things happen whilst dealing on the classifieds etc.
Ooo goody - better get the pitchfork and scythe back out then. When's the lynching? Haven't been to a good 'un in ages.
Cheers
Danny B
Anyone received either a refund or goods yet?
I guess he has lost the internet down the back of the sofa or something
It feels all sort of Idave to me though I hope I am wrong
Shouldn't effect me my pedals were posted nearly a week ago...
There is still no answer to the question that has been raised a few times in this thread - Why did they both get emails stating the payment was received and the goods would be despatched as soon as possible?
Just curious is all. I stuck up for Watsontony right at the beginning of this thread if you look back, before I'm lambasted for sharpening my pitchfork
Not looking good is it 😕
This may blow the myth out the water that regular posters are reliable deal with.
stw classifieds being used as a pay day loan and it's all gone a bit wrong?
That to me reads that you cannot live without the internet for more than a week - full stop.
Then you're an idiot and simply looking for a moot point to pick on. It was plainly bloody obvious what he meant - that not being able to gain access to some form of Internet connection somewhere, somehow within a week long period is near impossible.
Well I feel sheepish as I was happy to condemn the witch hunters a few days ago, but this is starting to look silly now. Tony, sort it out pronto.
Nothing here, no refund no reply to email or phone. Not good.
As Tony proves its actually possible to live without the Internet for almost two weeks 🙂
While probably actually having Internet access, but just using it very "selectively"
^ 🙂
No goods or refund here. He may not be a scammer but he's certainly got his head up his a**e.
Im up his way at the weekend, if its not arrived i can collect..
Adds to the do not deal with list.
There is a couple of guys that have put me on their 'not to deal with' list, can that be reconsidered I wonder!
Andy, if the people who have put you on their 'list' have the same approach to selling as Tony, they will be doing you a favour!
No bars then Steve?
Still no explanation?
Give him time this Internet thing a is as hard to find as a Post Office apparently
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so which do we need?
A reasonable explanation is a fair ask imo.
Dum dum dum dum another day bites the dust...
iDave was quicker than this.
Wasn't he?
Oh. Erm....
So where do people keep their "do not deal with list"?
I hope it's not on a cloud based storage site, just in case they can't get access to the internet for a couple of weeks.
Mine is pretty short....just Realman, iDave and Jo Burt were on it prior to this thread!
So where do people keep their "do not deal with list"?I hope it's not on a cloud based storage site, just in case they can't get access to the internet for a couple of weeks.
I keep mine on an [b]actual[/b] Cloud.
I live in Yorkshire, so normally if I want to see it, I have to go to Scotland or Wales 🙂
So how long is it reasonable to wait for someone to dispatch something from the classifieds?
I'm still waiting after 3 weeks....
Eviljoe, did you also buy something from Tony or somebody else?
No not Tony, someone else.
Not interested in a naming or flaming, just asking for an opinion from folks.
Seller has communicated, just not posted...
Well then it depends if the seller has given a reasonable explaination of any delays. Within a week is usually doable for most I should imagine.
ok..
I've changed my mind..
you're ALL on my banned list now - 'cept eviljoe, cos despite his name he's a goodguy
Aw Yunki,
that's sweet....
Right, **** it, I say we burn him. He's aware of this thread, and yet the buyers are still in the dark. No excuses. Most of us would have accepted his first response, we can all make mistakes, but to just then do nothing is pretty poor. I'll add him to realman and superfly1982.
Any news? Should I fetch my bombers from the shed and make sure that I have a full bladder?
No reply to emails, phone, nothing! No refund either.
Looking back over the thread, one person assumed that a pinkbike classified ban for the seller was for fraud, despite no evidence, even after mailing the staff, went off half cocked and tried as hard as possible to turn this into a witch hunt.Not pleasant.
Yeah, what a witch hunt eh when he was clearly in the right all along. People are too quick to judge yada yada yada....
Well guess what turned up in the post...
An e13 guide I bought yesterday.....
🙂
This is pretty poor to be honest!!
all seems a bit odd-- maybe there are money issues ?