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[Closed] Any bearing removal magic tricks? Spec pitch content.

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Bearings 1.d.

Haven't attempted getting them out yet, but im pretty sure it's going to be a pain.

I have a draper bearing puller but am sure it's not going to fit.

From anyones experience, is there space to shift the spacer between the bearings out the way to whack the inner races?

Cheers for any help.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 1:13 pm
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Just finished doing my Pitch bearings, I used a blind puller for those (because of the lip in the housing between the bearings).
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Used RRP's bearing presses to install - very easy when you have the right tools!


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 1:22 pm
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^it would be nice to have the money for a blind puller. unfortunately im being cheap.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 4:25 pm
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sv how much was your bearing puller? Debating over buying one.

Dean you could always phone round your local small enginnering firm/ mechanics and see if some-one has a bearing puller that could do the job for you for a beer or 2.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 4:38 pm
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sv how much was your bearing puller?

£105 from the US, a mate and I split the cost as we were doing his Trance and I knew the Pitch would need doing eventually. It popped those 6200 bearings out no probs at all.


 
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yaaaahh, so still no cheap deal, bugger. Cheers for the info though 😥

Why aren't there any ex-engineers flogging them cheap(ish) on ebay?


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 4:57 pm
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Just hit it with a big hammer and blunt screwdriver - it will be fine.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 5:01 pm
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Dean have a look at this thread, about halfway down there is a vid on how to make a split collette to remove them.
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stumpjumper-bearings-when-to-replace


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 5:21 pm
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It's not that hard a job, I can help you out with it if you need me too.

SV there aren't any 6200 bearings in the pitch, I think you might mean 6800 8x or 6802 6x, it's easy to make one of those splitt collette extractors, I've been making them for riders for years.


 
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^bingo. Cheers for that. One of those annoyingly simple things you don't understand why you didn't think of it.

Thanks.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 5:42 pm
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heat the bearing housing - it makes it much easier. Freeze the new bearings.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 5:46 pm
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tj - its about REMOVAL not fitting


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 6:00 pm
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tj - its about REMOVAL not fitting

I foresee in my magic ball of prophecy, that he will need to fit new bearings at some point to put the frame back together! D'oh!


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:37 pm
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heating the housing works for removal as well. alloy expands more than steel. BOiling water is enough to make a difference


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:48 pm
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kael - the thread tho is asking about removing bearings you ****tard


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:50 pm
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is tj's thread invisible or something? 😉


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:59 pm
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God you really are a nasty piece of work arn,t you cruzheckler.
STW needs you like a hole in the head...........


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:00 pm
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rob - the truth is that i am not remotely nasty, just reacting to a pair of imflamatory pricks


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:06 pm
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Kael,s a cool guy.
He puts himself out to help people....What,s the problem......you perhaps????


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:18 pm
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Cruzheckler - it's you who sounds like the ****


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:21 pm
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If either of you lads are really interested in my issue with kaesae email is in profile, feel free to contact me and I will explain. I presume when I don't that you are obviously jumping on a bang wagon. If you do fair play to you.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:28 pm
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Why not keep it to email rather than polluting threads with your bitterness.

Unless you are planning on stealing more designs?


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:38 pm
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Quirrel I have not stolen any designs, show me where this happened. I designed some tools, asked kaesae to make them. He said his skills were not up to it. I posted on here and someone said they could help. My second thread asked if anyone wanted some tools making cheaply. Kaesae popped up trying to flog his on my thread even tho he said he was Mot skilled enough when I asked. He got arsey so I proved him wrong with a bit of his email. Now he pops up on each of my postings trying to wind me up. But hey why let the truth get in the way?


 
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😯 😀 8)

That's not the truth heckler, you followed my progress on other threads on what I was doing, you contacted me after you had already found a fabricators on here ❓

You asked about the cost of my bushing tools and where quoted £8.49, realizing that you could not compete with that you tried to sell the headset press and bushing tool together.

What does a headset press have to do with a bushing tool, also knowing that I was working on a pivot point extractor and press system you tried to gain support for doing that on the thread you started as well.

Yes I came on and mucked about a bit, why wouldn't I, you're using the threads to promote commercial ventures and that's not fair.

After I came onto your thread you posted this

cruzheckler - Member
BTW all - my presses and other tools will be manufatured using a CNC lathe so should be spot on measuremnt wise

You knew exactly what I was doing and the equipment I was using. then you try and make out as if it was your own idea.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:46 pm
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CH...YGM...


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:53 pm
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Cruzheckler you appear to be stalking Kasae across the forum sure that is against the TOS


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 10:54 pm
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I removed similar bearing on a Stumpy around the horst link somewhere, used a hammer and a section of steel rod, socket set to remove the rest,


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:06 pm
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the horst link isn't a blind bearing though.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:15 pm
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No your right science officer it isn't a traditional blind hole bearing. However the bearing on the opposite side blocks access to it, so for arguments sake and for easy description of the best tools to use, it is often refered to as one.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:20 pm
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i bought one of these, beautiful bit of kit

http://www.rapidracerproducts.com/BPET.htm


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:25 pm
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Cruz - birds of a feather eh 😉


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:27 pm
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Cruzheckler you appear to be stalking Kasae across the forum sure that is against the TOS

So is continually advertising your companies wares on various threads and also slagging other companies products. But hey he gives some folks free bearings and tools so he must be a great guy!


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:31 pm
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Im after tools to remove bearings on my pitch, price war maybe? 😆


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 11:38 pm
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Kaesae you are 100% wrong on each of your assumptions dude. If I can be bothered I will crawl thru all my email and present those to you in time order to show you this. Just because you keep shouting the same thing loudly does not make you correct


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 6:37 am
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Let it die fellas before you both look even more childish than do do already


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 6:54 am
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Posted : 14/06/2011 7:01 am
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SV still a legend in your own mind sunshine 😯 no one is fooled by your stirring, am I wrong in thinking you are the court jester of MTBrider ❓


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 7:56 am
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Kaesae back to insulting remarks and avoiding the issue. Yes you are wrong about me being the court jester on MTBrider, you still sore about getting banned? At least they showed your lack of engineering knowledge relating to bearings and MTB suspension.


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 9:26 am
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*Pulls up a chair* 😯

"It's gonna be a long one, can someone pass me a drink?"


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 7:10 pm
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The RR product looks interesting but doesn't look like it will deal with the tricky double horst link bearing (am I missing something)

http://www.shacktools.com/sykespickavant-09580100-bearing-internal-extractor-13mm-p-2066.html

£95 inc vat


 
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Use a hair drier to warm it all up before you use the blind puller,
we use this for steel in alloy set up in the workshop al be it a industrial strength one.

I also nick the wifes one when i need to do my bike.


 
Posted : 14/06/2011 8:16 pm
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The RR product looks interesting but doesn't look like it will deal with the tricky double horst link bearing

It doesnt but the blind puller does. The RRP press is great though, I just bought the specific kits and used some M8 bar/washers/nuts.


 
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No the RRP tool is a fairly basic press, looks nice though. The pitch has more than one bouble bearing set up as well so a bit more tricky.

I will have a puller / press kit for the specialized frames including the double bearing housing, soon enough hopefully.


 
Posted : 16/06/2011 10:23 am
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Used the home made collett gimo, worked a treat. Definitely recommend.


 
Posted : 16/06/2011 10:12 pm
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Where did you get the tubing etc dean?


 
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Is anyone still interested in a puller / press kit for the specialized frames ❓

Had a bit of motivation recently 💡 so I've been off and finally designed and had produced the tooling range I've been dreaming about for a while.

Since it was this thread and riders asking me to go and get it done, I thought I would see if anyone is still interested ❓


 
Posted : 27/07/2011 9:34 pm
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Definitely.. it's for a 2008 StumpJumper in my case - but I think it's the same idea.


 
Posted : 27/07/2011 9:44 pm
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ygm


 
Posted : 27/07/2011 9:49 pm
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Anyone who is interested just give me a shout 😀


 
Posted : 27/07/2011 10:02 pm
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I've lost count of how many times I've used this- and you'll probably have the bits already!

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You will need...

1 M6 x 25ish bolt
1 M6 nut
1 chain ring bolt (outer piece)
1 of those chamfered nuts that they use on V brake pads.

Take the chainring bolt and cut 4 slots into the sides.
Drill the centre of the V brake pad nut so it slides over the M6 bolt.

Assemble as shown in the photo with the chain ring bolt pushed into the bearing.

Insert into the bearings, tighten together, then tap back out!

Hope this helps

A


 
Posted : 27/07/2011 10:21 pm
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very cool! any chance of a demo of it in action ❓ , it's very similar to what I intend using on my kits for now.

Ansdy do you own a specialized?


 
Posted : 28/07/2011 2:00 pm
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Ansdy do you own a specialized?

I've got a Pitch Pro, which is my main bike, but I've used this tool on a Stumpjumper 120, Safire, and 2006 Big hit- I'll try and take some photos tonight.

A


 
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I like your design, I have one that is a bit better for now, at least I think so. Your design however I think has a lot of potential.

Do you mind if I borrow it further down the line in the development stages of my tooling range ❓


 
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Anyone who wants one of these kits. I now have them in stock, if you've already contacted me please get in touch again as I have a lot of emails since last tuesday as in 500 maybe 600.


 
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Here's how the tools work.

I've used elongated nuts to increase the amount of threads that are used and to enable me to generate more force. It also means there is less likely hood of damaging the tool.

As you can see there is a thrust bearing to ensure that as much force is transfered smoothly as possible.

The Elongated nuts are far easier to use than their smaller counterparts, this makes the tooling simpler to use.

Removal

Installation

This tooling range has a long way to go before I will consider it to be complete, but with this simple but effective design as it's foundation, it has a lot of potential.

I will let any one who is interested in the removal tool for the horst link pivot see it later, a bit too busy just now.


 
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Anyone who wants one of these kits. I now have them in stock, if you've already contacted me please get in touch again as [b]I have a lot of emails since last tuesday as in 5[s]00[/s] maybe 6[s]00[/s][/b].

Rofl - to be honest if anyone is in need of penis enlargement or viagra then you da man!

Oh and fixed the numbers for you 😉


 
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Perhaps you a right Shmeckler, however I have a lot to do and it's more important for me to get it done! than it is to swap insults with you, no matter how much I enjoy it 😀


 
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Come again? oh that'll be the viagra!!


 
Posted : 04/08/2011 11:14 am
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Oh FFS you two [b]GIVE IT UP AND GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]

It's childish and tiring. If you have nothing positive to say to each other then SHUT THE FEK UP.


 
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Hello Peterpoddy, can you or anyone else reading this, think of anything positive to say about or too cruzheckler ❓

That said I have a lot on so I will sacrafice the enjoyment and laughter I get from these kinds of online exchanges and go back to what I was doing.

Hope everyone reading this has a good saddle year, farewell!!!


 
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Here's the tool that I've created to deal with the Specialized wheel drop out and other blind housing set ups, it's nothing complex but it isn't expensive and does work well.

I have another design but I think it's more imortant to get other kits available for other frames, than it is to develop a range that works fine for now.

I can do the Giant, Commencal, or Trek frames next, it will take about 4 weeks for the tools to be designed, tested and produced.

Do any of the riders who are interested in this project have a suggestion on what range of frames the tooling should be made for next ❓

Also are there any other tools that you want me to design and manufacture ❓

Not quite sure how I managed to get myself into this, but since I'm involved in it now, might as well see where the trail leads.


 
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Here's a demo of the bushing tool I came up with, some of the designs I tried didn't really generate enough force or were easy to damage.

This design is very easy to use and quite tough.

removal

instalation


 
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Trade advert?

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That said we do allow certain types of Trade Ads where we feel they will be of benefit to our users. Trade ads are allowed but only after following some very strict guidelines and rules. If you are in the bike industry and would like to know how you can use the classified forum to clear slow moving and old stock then get in touch with mark@singletrackworld.com.


 
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mine was not a firm advert - just an idea of COST not SALE price which includes costs + markup


 
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