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Good on them! Cotic make nice bikes.


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 10:45 pm
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Good to see a UK company spreading its wings. I wish Cy the best of luck.


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 10:50 pm
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I thought Americans didn't do steel. Or anyone else not from the UK.


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 10:53 pm
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CEN has probably helped with insurance for the US market. Hemlock notable in it's absence though?


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 10:59 pm
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Cotic 29er coming soon?


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 10:59 pm
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No Hemlock, its a four bar/FSR/horst link. Specialized owns the US(/North America?) patent, cotic doesn't pay to use it (just as many european brands dont')


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 11:01 pm
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Posted : 27/11/2010 11:03 pm
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yup theres a 29er on the way. no way cotic could go to the states without one these days.


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 11:08 pm
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Specialized's patent runs out either next year or 2012 which will be interesting for Euro brands using the Horst link.


 
Posted : 27/11/2010 11:15 pm
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How about Canada?


 
Posted : 28/11/2010 4:18 am
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How much do Specialized charge for their Horst-sticker?


 
Posted : 28/11/2010 9:15 am
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Thanks guys, I'm really excited about it. There's no Hemlock (or X or Roadrat despite the article) yet because we're taking it slow and building up from our solid hardtail products. We have plans to take the X into the US next summer as we've already missed their 'cross season (which tends to run August to November due to snow over the winter in a lot of places), and the RoadRat will go too once Niall at EU Cycle Imports and his reps and got out to the shops with that. Hemlock is still on 'wait and see' more for market build up reasons than anything else. As a small player it's pretty easy to sort the FSR licence should we so wish. And yes, we are working on a 29er, but that's not coming for about another year. These things take time.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 10:51 am
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Nice one Cy. Good luck with it mate.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 3:35 pm
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Ok, noob question I guess- how come on the Roadrat the brake rotor is on the drive side (front)?


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 4:05 pm
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so that the braking reaction forces due to the wheel rotation drive the axle up/into the dropout - not down/out of the dropout.

it's entirely possible i made that up.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 4:32 pm
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http://www.cotic.co.uk/geek/#ROADHOG_discmount

For the reason the brake mount is on the drive side front, as ahwiles said it's to do with braking forces.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 4:47 pm
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...and it makes it easier to fit a front mudguard when running discs.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 4:55 pm
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Just a wee thought, but with that front-mounted disc, the rotor would be moving through the caliper in the opposite direction to the one the manufacturer intended (short of some very interesting hose routing).

Doubt it makes any practical difference as most pads are more or less symmetrical these days.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:17 pm
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Steveomcd - brakes work backwards. Trust me!


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:30 pm
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Just a wee thought, but with that front-mounted disc, the rotor would be moving through the caliper in the opposite direction to the one the manufacturer intended (short of some very interesting hose routing).

Doubt it makes any practical difference as most pads are more or less symmetrical these days.

Going to a 15mm bolt thru set up would be much more elegant, just as fast to remove the wheel and be near enough as light.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:31 pm
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great news cy! well done and good luck! just got the soda and x frame in and they look cracking! ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:34 pm
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"Going to a 15mm bolt thru set up would be much more elegant, just as fast to remove the wheel and be near enough as light."

But would massively restrict wheel choice- not as many 15mm road or hybrid wheels out there.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:37 pm
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Nor would 15mm help in fitting mudguards.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 5:40 pm
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Shimano have launched a 9mm version of the QR15 standard for trekking bikes which I'm watching quite closely, but for now I think the set up works well.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 6:06 pm
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merikens do steel, plenty of niche meisters over there, from eastern woods research in pennsylvania

http://www.ewrbikes.com/owb_specs

to walt works in colorado

http://www.waltworks.com/dev/index.php

but almost everybody seems to ride 29ers.

Good luck to Cy, what with On One buying Titus its interesting times for UK brands' potential expansion.


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 7:45 pm
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Good luck Cy, hope all goes well over there. Good to see some exchange in the other direction!


 
Posted : 29/11/2010 7:56 pm