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[Closed] A "what tyres" thread - Tubeless CX/Gravel

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For some time now, I've had one of the original Kinesis Decade Tripster frames.  I've used it as a road bike with 28mm Schwalbe One tyres on it.

I'd now like to retask this bike for a bit of canal tow path and bridleway exploration.  I've already got a set of Stans Arch rims on there, I'm just wondering what tyres to consider.  Coming from a purely mountain bike background, I'm drawn to the burlier, more knobbly tyres, but is this the best way to go?  What sort of width can support a 200 lbs rider without exceeding 40 psi?


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 5:51 pm
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I'm well over 200lbs and run 40-50psi in my 33 or 35mm cx tyres tubeless (on Arch Ex).


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 5:57 pm
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Cheers.  I'm currently looking at WTB Cross Boss 35mm, WTB Nano 40mm, Hutchinson Piranha 34mm and a Hutchinson Black Mamba 34mm.  Any of those leap out at anyone?


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 6:05 pm
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I'm not far off that weight and run 40mm nanos tubeless at 40 psi ,no issues at all

Even heavier sometimes when I've got all my bikepacking stuff attached to the bike as well !!


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 6:12 pm
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I’ve no t had the best of luck with wtb tubeless on cx so now I only use Vittoria tubeless cx tyres, go up and seal easily seem to ride and last well. Iirc they do 40 mm ones now. We do 30-60 mile cx bridle path, mtb trails and roads around Surrey and Swinley on them


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 6:53 pm
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How much clearance have you got? I run 2.0 spesh fastracks, our towpsths get nasty greasy and i find xc mtb tyres great in the winter grip wise, run fast enough, great on bumpy stuff, good tubeless, cheapish and are more robust than gravelly tyres.


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 8:51 pm
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I'm running Schwalbe G-Ones although 650 rather than 700 at 40 psi tubeless. Work well for mixed use riding


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:09 pm
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If you want cx tyres I have nothing to add.

But if you want gravel tyres then panaracer gravel Kings are ace, light and go up tubeless. I have them on the cx bike that I use as my 'go anywhere' machine and they are brilliant.


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:10 pm
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Another thumbs up for Gravelkings!


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:21 pm
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Gravel kings look a lot less threaded than I was expecting. Do they really cut it off road?


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:25 pm
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Gravel Kings are what I currently intend to get when I wear out the G-Ones


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:30 pm
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When we say gravel kings, do we mean gravel king SK?


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 9:42 pm
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Just put on some Gravel King SK 38mm last week to do Cardiff to Holyhead, was really impressed with them. Really confident off road & rolled great on tarmac.


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 10:18 pm
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Gravel king SK has a small knobble tread, the standard one is like a file tread IIRC. I rate the SK as a good compromise tyre - it gets clogged in thick mud but is good on gravel, hard pack and even in the snow.


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 10:25 pm
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Bonty cx0s? Nice and fast rolling and have edge knobs for a bit of bite. Can be had in 38mm, I have 33mm and they are very capable even when slippery or light mud. Very reliable tubeless too


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 10:27 pm
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These look worth a punt. As a Nano 40mm user, I'm after something a bit more grippy for autumn.


 
Posted : 21/08/2018 10:34 pm
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42mm WTB resolute


 
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I wouldn't worry about too much tread. Gravel has tons of grip. It must be said that tread can aid robustness at the expense of weight.  For muddy CX going narrow is king.

I use a 40mm Nano on the front for gravel with a 35 mm knobbly at the back as that@s all that fits. CX tyres don't last as they are meant for racing on grass and mud. a couple of thousand gravel miles sees mine through to the canvas.

When my Challenge Strada Biancas come off the road bike they will become my ravel tyres. Much nicer than the Nanos and fit under mudguards for the winter.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 6:51 am
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My first impressions of specialized sawtooth 42c are good.  Loads of grip on loose climbs. Roll and corner well on road too.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 7:30 am
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I'm just over 200lb and use 38c a tyre at 40psi and often down to 30psi with no issues.

+1 for Gravelking SKs


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:01 am
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+1 for Sawtooths. Run mine at 35-40 psi will also go a long way off road.

I’ve put some Surly Knards on for winter and rate them as well. Surprisingly fast rolling.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:13 am
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Sorry for hijack , can anyone recommend a 35mm tyre that goes up tubeless and offers good puncture protection? For a mix of road gravel and fairly root flat trails. Thanks


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:41 am
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I've got 52mm between stays, so even a 49mm tyre will leave 6mm of clearance (not sure how much I'd actually need though.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:00 am
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Just watch out for wtb tyres on 'tight' rims like Stan's- it may have changed since I struggled with them but they can be a sod to get seated and need standing on to get off.

I ended up with some knards that came with a bike I bought off here and I really like them. Roll fast on and off tarmac and don't appear to have the fast wearing tread of a nano. They're the opposite of wtb tyres tjough- very loose. On a ust spec rim it still wasn't staying on the rim after two extra wraps of tape.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:19 am
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Thanks for the heads up. It's some old stand arch (pre ex) rims that they're going on. Found Hutchinson tight on them before but don't remember the schwalbe being too much trouble. Assumed they'd all be pretty tight being road tubeless though.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:26 am
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I've put some Maxxis Rambler 35c on my hardtail for my commute 2/3 road 1/3 gravel and love them. They are fast on the road and surprisingly grippy on the gravel. I've even done a few diversions onto rooty/rocky and apart from getting thrown about a bit they are damned good. 40psi on Stans Arch tubeless.Tight to get on but did it my thumbs. Note: Due to the cracking summer I haven't ridden them in anything wet so far so all the above might be bol*%#s when it starts to get moist.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 12:18 pm
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These are great too:

https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/TYTEREW7/terrene-elwood-700c-tyre

I've had Gravelkings too, and they were great but not quite as supple as the Terrene's.

The Maxxis Rambler 40's are incredibly light and supple, but more fragile than both the above so not great on sharp rocky stuff. I've got one for sale, so drop me a message if you're interested...


 
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Oh, and the Terrene go up fine on the old Stans Crest's


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 12:59 pm
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Gravelking Sk or G-One.

WTB resolutes are good but more aggressive in tread so draggy on the road


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 1:36 pm
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WTB Riddler 37c perhaps? A nice file tread with some good sized lugs on the edges.

Currently using WTB Resolute 42c back and front - bit slower feeling than the Riddler but grippier off-road ...


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 1:46 pm
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These look worth a punt. As a Nano 40mm user, I’m after something a bit more grippy for autumn.

I have used these too, and really rate them. Good compromise tyre in most conditions, roll really well, pretty puncture-proof, light, and pretty bloody cheap compared to many of the 'designer' gravel tyres. Not sure whether they run tubeless ... I did sort of check the Continental website and recall reading (or mis-reading?) that all Conti tyres with the Pro Tection can be run tubeless. But worth double-checking.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:24 pm
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Not sure whether they run tubeless … I did sort of check the Continental website and recall reading (or mis-reading?) that all Conti tyres with the Pro Tection can be run tubeless. But worth double-checking.

This suggests that the AT Ride may be able to run tubeless ...

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicycle/service/faq/tubeless-ready

But refers to MTB tyres, whereas the AT Ride is billed as a trekking tyre.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:40 pm
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WTB Riddler 37c perhaps? A nice file tread with some good sized lugs on the edges.

Mine are very puncture prone. A pity as they perform really well.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:44 pm
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Specialized Trigger? Got a 47mm one on the front of my Roadrat and impressed so far. Only the Sport version so not running tubeless.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:52 pm
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Running tubeless Soma Cazadero 42c on my Salsa Vaya at 40psi absolutely no trouble and a superb tyre. They also do a 50c version

https://www.cxmagazine.com/soma-fab-cazadero-42c-gravel-tire-review


 
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My sawtooth have both split across the tread leaving me stranded in the middle of nowhere.....

I can't see what could have done this so assume they're faulty... looks like a perish crack. 3 days old....


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:21 pm
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I run 700 x 35 G-Ones tubeless on Crest 29ers and they've been brilliant on anything except wet grass - they even cope, vaguely - with a bit of mud because they're narrow. I occasionally run tubeless ready Cross Bosses and occasionally a Cross Boss up front and a G-One at the back. I wouldn't get fixated on knobbliness, on hardpack a little tread goes a surprisingly long way with cross tyres.

Gravel King SKs look interesting. I spend a day with a mate who was using them and they seemed like a good mix of road speed and off-road grip. He seemed very happy and kept leaving me in his wake on the road.


 
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I have G-ones (40mm I htink) on my tripster and they ride excellently but are a bit fragile. I'll probably go for gravelking SKs next as they seem a bit more robust.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:11 pm