if i were to build a solid secure wooden shed, what would in need?
was thinking 4x4 framework, marine ply roof, floor and inner skin and decking boards outer skin (for aesthetics).
any advice appreciated.
Bit of Tongue and Groove and this
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that would be perfect, no access tho.
that would be perfect, no access tho.
was thinking 4x4 framework, marine ply roof, floor and inner skin and decking boards outer skin (for aesthetics).
That'll do the trick, but the weak link will always be the door...
As above they make the best shed/workshops if kitted out right and a pita to get into if you weld a lock cover onto it out of 12mm plate bits
got a idea for a double door, inner opens in, outer opens out, both locked separatley.
This is mine...work in progress. Frame-work is mostly treated 2x4. Imho I don't think decking will look right on the outside as a cladding...
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3 X 2 TREATED CLS, for frame, then 3/8 inch marine ply inside weldmesh outer then t and g cladding outside.
Roof secured with builders band, doors opening outwards, with hinge bolts and 3 x 2 treated cls frame,all secured to deep bolts set into concrete.
With decking boards you dont have a joint to seal so gaps between boards will hold water, unless you put them verticaly eg up and down instead of left to right
Most exterior plywoods will be fine. All require to be painted properly anyway.
Marine ply as such uses the same glue line as other plywoods , but generally the plies will be of a minimum level of durability and all of the same thickness.
Marine plywood is designed for use in marine situations which require insurance certification compliant with LLoyds register and it carries a stamp staying BS1088. It costs at least twice what normal plywood does.
Use exterior plywood from your merchants and save money.
That'll do the trick, but the weak link will always be the door...
Get a 2nd hand double glazed door and a shed alarm.
Good ground anchors, 19mm chain and a squire SS65C closed shackle padlock.
I disagree with the marine/standard ply compare. It is NOT twice the price...... Only the other day I had a guy in the w.shop wanting to re bed his flat bed truck. pricing up the ply at 18mm thick was £29+ vat (from TP) and the marine £43+ vat from a different supplier a difference of £15. No brainer as the ordinary ply wont last 5 mins outside, I know this for fact (I`ve been in the trade for 26yrs.....) even painted, the ordinary stuff WILL de laminate within 1/2 years.
Go with the marine ply for anything outside!
Ton, Also I think 4x4 is a little overkill for the framework. As mentioned 3x2/4x2 will be ample, you can then insulate between with "extra therm" or similar!
Hope this helps. 😛
That ply at TP Is bloody expensive. I tend to agree with you in part, though, but the suggestion was for the board to be used inside the shed, or under felt.
I'm not suggesting it isn't, but I have seen plywood recently, marketed as marine , but utterly without a stamp, at a lesser price than I would expect, but it couldn't be used for an insured marine job.
There is no longer plywood imported from Indonesia or as much rom Malaysia these days, which is where high quality tropical hardwood boards traditionally have come from. What remains of the Malayan product imported commands a high price in comparison with the low quality exterior boards from China, which tend ironically to be made from logs felled in Malaysian forests in the first instance. Marine ply from Malaysia will command a higher price.
You are correct, TP is expensive!!!!, I was making a generalisation!!!!, inside is fine, outside NO!
Mate of mine has a 10' x 10' shipping container with secure door in his garden that he's clad. Outside looks like a shed but you'd need burning gear to get in.
No doors, no windows....
Stock reponse, ask your insurance company what thy consider enough.
Insurance companies will want something build by some approved registered company and will still weasel out of paying anything should be be unlucky enough to have something stolen.