i'm looking for a replacement for the bottlerocket. i wonder what frame to get that covers the spectrum of riding i do with it. singletrack to 15+ft drops etc....
any ideas? i don't want big travel as i have the demo9 still
Banshee Spitfire?
hmmmmmmm nasher
Banshee Spitfire?
not suitable for what jedi has in mind.
a rune fits the bill though, they make an ace mini-dh bike with angled headset cups and a coil shock
Fancy a swap for an 06 Enduro?
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i don't want another speccy 🙂
cant see an enduro being up to 15+ft drops without snapping.
Commncal mini-dh? Old rockies RM6 or RM7 likes? Same old kona stinkies?
To be honest with you, I am not sure a lot of 5-6" bikes are designed with the idea of 15th drops (5 m is a lot) nowadays.
si. what travel is that?
Santa cruz butcher/nomad
Alpine 160
Froggy/spicy
And even though you said no.....Spesh SX 😀
never seen a butcher
Yawn
More marketing hype,
re-inventing the wheel?
Some strange looking bikes around at the moment?
butcher looks ok, gspot looks good etc.... any others?
How about a Nicolai Helius AC?
Froggy/spicy
MWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you kinda missed the 15 foot drops me think
Butcher or Nicolai both nice
si. what travel is that?
Around 7", though they are supposed to pedal like a much shorter travel bike.
Nomad would do the job. 160mm travel, will take up to 180mm fork, tapered head tube etc. Can't testify for the 15' drop but I can testify that they do singletrack well and climb almost as well as my LT2. Seen quite a few of the old ones being used in the Scottish downhill series so obviously stand up to some serious battering
Tazer VP, only 3.25"-4" travel though
Tracer VP
Nomad
Heckler
Nicolai Helius AC - 5 year frame warranty including for racing is pretty good. Very tough frames.
As a matter of interest, what's the problem with the bottlerocket?
i bought it 2nd hand. its battered.
cant see a heckler standing up to the abuse either.
But a new Bottlerocket wouldn't be battered would it.
i might get a new one but before i buy new i want to see my choices
Intense ss or a corsair Koenig perhaps
The mountain cycles battery was going really cheap earlier this year but not sure if they are still available
Yeah, reckon a Slopestyle would fit the bill - decent range of sizes too. The MC Battery is a cracking little frame but very short.
Scott Voltage.
Mine is ace, and a good price too.
the short frame voltage felt horrid but bushwacked's long frame was rad. none left though.
I have nothing useful to add, I just liked the use of "horrid" and "rad" within the same sentence.
Mine is long and is good for everything, needed a bigger cassette for xc though, would be nice with a single front and 10 speed rear , 2011 bikes should be available soon.
I'm looking at a similar sort of frame (not for 15ft drops tho, 5-6ft max) i looked at the Cove Gspot but the rear air shock put me off a bit, i'm debating an Ellesworth Moment 6 inch travel can be built up to just over 30lbs or a lot more robust, i had go on my mates at Inners in the summer, it climbs really well and was excellent on the descents, they have some good offers on frame and fork combinations at the moment at Freeborn.
My other mate has just got an Intense Slope Style, ridding position is spot on you really sit into the bike and not perched on top, the only thing you can't fit a front mech so a little limited with the gears
Cheers
Nick
the new g spot is on my list. intense have all broke/cracked at herts. in fact only norco have never busted there 🙂
Intense Uzzi maybe? More or less the same frame as the SS, but less travel and a bit easier to pedal.
EDIT: obviously I typed that before I read your next post.
Froggy/spicyMWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you kinda missed the 15 foot drops me think
Why? Spicy is 160mm and the froggy 180mm, are they not all that then? Thought they were supposed to be all gnarlyradcore innit' are they breaky or just crap?
Not tried either tbh but thought they'd be worth a look
Either one of these three:
http://www.freeborn.co.uk/mythic-rampant-frame-1
http://www.freeborn.co.uk/mythic-wildcard-frame-sale-1
http://www.freeborn.co.uk/mythic-rune-frame-sale-1
Not too light either so you know they should be farily strong. The rampant looks awesome
you know its gotta be the Cove.
ironically, the bottlerocket belonged to my mate (bigL) who now has a g spot!
oooohhhh my colour..... minus decals 🙂
Scratch! Quality bikes!
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain_full_suspension/scratch/scratch9/
Orange Blood?
i dont think the trek would last!
What weight would that g spot be. Any idea?
I have been thinking about getting one to replace my enduro
Anything by Kona will be indestructable. Thinking Stinky. May be a bit mainstream for you but I love those bikes,
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/knolly-chilcotin-interbike-2010.html
thats yer kiddie
Probably the only suggestion that is up to your usage. dude.
Try to be a bit smoother when landing the drops. Remember - it's not about the bike 😆
A Norco of some description. It won't break 😉
Series 1 slopestyle. There is one over on the Dirt website for sale at £600. A medium in black.
euro,
its about want
I want one of these...
Can't image it'd be too pedal friendly for the single track, but it would eat the drops. What about getting the Bottlerocket powder coated to freshen it up? Not ridden one, but looks like it could handle anything.
edit.
These look like a useful alternative to the BR. Wouldn't personally have an air shock near me, but i think they come as frame only.
hmmmmmm thats a possibility
you always go back to the things you love.
I reckon you should be forced into a Dunlop from Sports Direct, stop you doing those ridiculous tricks and making the rest of us look stupid.
no, the demo9 is hanging up 🙂
Try and swing a leg over a Nicolai Helius AM.
I'm loving mine. Doing all the stuff I used to do on the 43lb Nucleon but it at only 33lbs it's worth taking out for more XC jaunts (which the Nukey never was). Apart from the well worn issue of 12mm rear hubs axle snappage and troublesome air shocks I've had no problems with it yet (although the Hammerschmidt is worrying me and two rear mechs in 6 months is painfull).
If looking SH try to find a Helius FR as they are also brilliant if from the last few years - the older ones are bit weird geometry wise.
Transition Covert with CCDB - job done!
That corsair konig looks a good prospect for a grand
http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Clearance+Section/MTB+Clearance+Section/Corsair+Konig+Frame_2297.htm
That Tracer looks like you'd be smashing the linkage of rocks left right and centre?
Another vote for Orange Blood. Suspension system looks very similar to your Bottlerocket but with a bit more travel. Nice slack head angle and super fun to ride. Sounds ideal for you!
A helius am with 120mm of travel, you can borrow mine on the 8th if you want. you won't break it.....
ok i'll have a ride after your coaching session 🙂
Agree with Ianpinder..Helius Am.
I had an Fr and it was a good bike.Stiff and good handling.Fitted with a double barrel/Lyrik coil Dh it ate rock gardens and anything else you would through at it.Handled me doing drops to flat(4-5ft) and some 20ft gaps.
You will love it.
The am is a fantastic bike but it would not enjoy Herts all the time. I ride a am and a st and the st is the better bike for Herts.
i was going to suggest a Nicolai Helius AM also............
new one is slightly slacker [more like the older FR]....
bomb-proof fwiw and very versatile / travel adjustable without geometry effect[s].
As tough as the Mythic Spitfire is I don't think it would cope with 15ft drops, or their warranty department wouldn't! It's more of a singletrack shredder than a cliff jumping bike. The next model up is the Rune and that's very popular on silly stuff in BC I believe.
Cove seem to have taken time off from growing their own to design some new frames that are allegedly just as durable but much lighter than previous years. The new Cove G-Spot looks like it would hit your spot and is based on the larger downhill Shocker but with just 6". You can guarantee Cove will have built something to withstand Canadian North Shore abuse so 15ft drops would be no trouble.
Of course the Orange Alpine 160 may not be a very pretty bike but they ride fantastically and and is basically a mini 224 so I am sure they would cope. Some don't like the single pivot but the one I tried in the Alps felt fantastic. I watched a guy in Chatel on one massively over jump the big canyon gap and knock himself out with a horribly heavy landing. The Alpine 160 didn't have a scratch on it!
Specialized SX would be great, 4" travel, built with similar strength to SX Trail. Unfortuantely they don't sell it here 🙁
http://dirt.mpora.com/news/exclusive-2011-specialized-4x.html
I've just ordered a Marin Wolf Ridge frame. Ugly but a great ride and its built very tough. 460 quid brand new, 140mm travel, maxle rear end etc. bargain! (from betterbikes on ebay).
Orange blood might be the chap for you. Have had one for about a year and it is holding up well. Never dropped anything bigger than the stepdown at Ae but landed that short with no problems. Climbs OK but obviously not the lightest bike in the world. Really good mini downhill bike. Raced the Mega on it and didnt put a foot wrong. I wouldnt be too sure about the Heckler for big drops. I snapped the swingarm on mine (They have slightly re-designed the swingarm since)
I did a skills course with James Shirley who rode a Blood - he showed me some pretty massive jumps on the FT William 4X course at the end of the day. He seemed to like it.
Tony, I've got a Mountain Cycles Battery, I love it, come to Devon and have a go. They are still doing amazing deals on them.
Giant Reign X?
kit,
i thought about a reignx
i really like this. not sure how strong it is but I think they're Greman and have only read positive reviews about the brand in general - for that price you could source a coil shock too. TBH I think that the brand overbuilds it's designs too, although I guess it would be weighty.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=31627
This comes with a coil
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=41189
I loved my Reign, but it was waaaaaay too much bike for me. Felt solid though, back end was very stiff. For the amount of travel it had, it was a very capable all-day bike. In fact, I did a few full distance Merida Marathons on it... albeit a bit slowly 😉
See too Gee Atherton's crash in Tignes (I think) where he trashed the forks, but apparently the Reign came out unscathed
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