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Building up a 16in frame, and I'm just under 5ft 9in.

Top tube looks so long that I'm thinking 50mm stem with 685mm (and maybe later 710mm) bars.

I gather it's designed to be used with a short stem. What do others use?


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 3:23 pm
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I use a 50mm stem on mine - a race face evolve. I struggled to find one actually as you go on CRC or somewhere and none of them seemed to stock the 50mm length stems. I found with a 70mm stem the weight distribution wasnt quite right. Im about the same height as you as well and also running 685mm bars with a 1 inch rise. Run a normal seatpost and the saddle is about central on the rails which I find is a good set up for climbing and descending.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 3:26 pm
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that's great, cheers robbo

got a 70mm stem coming off my handjob, but the top tube on the 456 is soooo much longer I thought I'd need something shorter


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 3:38 pm
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Yeh I found the back felt a bit sketchy with the longer stem and also I felt a bit stretched out as well.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 3:42 pm
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5'8" here with a 70mm stem on my 16" carbon 456 and 680mm bars. It feels spot on to me; stable and comfortable.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 3:58 pm
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6ft, 50mm transition temple lite stem, 710mm race face bars. spot on... I found the longer stem felt wrong on the steeper stuff.. like I was being pushed / chucked over the front...


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 4:04 pm
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70mm on an 18" it 12 degree rise and feels spot on.
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Posted : 23/12/2010 7:05 pm
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5'9" 60mm stem thinking of going up to 70mm


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 7:07 pm
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I love the handling of a 65mm stem and 710 bars (although 6ft and on a medium)


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 7:08 pm
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90mm for me with 711mm low rise bars, on a 20" frame - long arms/legs


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 7:25 pm
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For a 16" frame the on-one site recommends 60-80mm stems btw


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 7:34 pm
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im 5ft 9.. use a 60mm on-one stem on mine and it feeld perfect..

tried 70mm and 80mm and it felt like i was doing a superman impression everytime i rode it..

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Posted : 23/12/2010 7:51 pm
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70 or 50 feels ace on mine.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 7:53 pm
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60mm on an 18" with 775mm bars works great for me.
6'2" btw.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 9:07 pm
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No more than 70mm, but I suppose it also depends on the width of your bars for leverage etc.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 9:40 pm
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I am 5'8 and ride a 16" 456 my sety up was a layback seat post saddle pushed as far forward as possable with a 90mm stem which felt good

but I have just swoppped to 60mmm stem centered the saddle and the whole set up feels snappier / nicer


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 9:58 pm
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When i had one i used a 60mm my dad now has one and has gone from 50mm when he bought it up to a 90mm now. He's not gnar-core and prefers the more stretched out feel. I wouldn't have let him use anything longer than 90mm though.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 10:04 pm
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456SS here with Azonic CF bars (can't be bothered to measure). Stem? 70mm Thomson, but an inline post. With 150mm fork I don't want anything longer, might work differently with another fork.


 
Posted : 23/12/2010 11:32 pm
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Thanks everyone, interesting.

I wouldn't have let him use anything longer than 90mm though.

I should hope not, someone might have seen you out riding with him.

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Posted : 24/12/2010 10:09 am
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5' 11" here on an 18" with an 80mm/10 degree rise stem and straight post with the seat right foreward (otherwise my kneees rebeled) was the best I got with about 20mm of spacers under the stem.

That was on a steel 456 ..........on the Ti456 I never really managed to get it to suit me in any guise from 100/90/80/70 stems and layback to straight posts with 140 forks. On One say it was a mirror image frame...I don't think it was...tyre clearance was obviously more compromised but I think it was different in more ways than that. I have a feeling that 160 forks were the way to go but I gave up.


 
Posted : 24/12/2010 11:31 am
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5'8", 16" 456SS and a 50mm stem with 710mm bars (which aren't wide enough!).


 
Posted : 24/12/2010 11:42 am
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I'm 5'11/6' and I use an 18" frame and 100mm stem.

I have a 120mm RS REBA.

I'me having a problem of fiting, i'm always in the back of the sadle, I thought it was because I had a 90mm stem but no...


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 5:14 pm
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I'm 5ft 9in and I use a 50mm stem and 710mm bar - and it's perfect.

Oh hang on a minute, I'm talking to myself in the past.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 5:19 pm
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Bit of a thread revival....
I'm 5'8" on a medium carbon. Stem is 100mm, i tried 90mm and it felt to short. Inline seatpost if that makes any difference


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 5:33 pm
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I was just about to say what I use but then noticed my post above. Same still applies... need wider bars!


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 5:54 pm
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i run a 40mm stem on my 20inch, feels quite nice. went from a 90mm so quite a change.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 6:49 pm
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Running 90mm stem and 750mm bar on a 20" 456

Been stotting for alpine singletrack ! Any shorter and the front would lift when climbing !


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:52 pm
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5'8" here with a 70mm stem on my 16" carbon 456 and 680mm bars. It feels spot on to me; stable and comfortable

Snap! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:54 pm