[Closed] 1x 10 is the way forward!

Nice. What device?

32-42t E-Type/SRAM S3

Its for the DMD mech brackets that the Specialized use.

Wouldn't even come close to either a high enough, or low enough gear for me there.

Depends where you ride. As a SS is my only MTB at present I'm sure I could conquer quite a lot on a 1x10. Is that an Epic EVO? Quite like them fellas!

Yeah I couldn't do a 34x34, I'm running 32x36 and only find myself wanting downhill on fireroad/ tarmac so don't see any impetus to get a bigger ring, maybe to get a better spread between gears (or is does it not work like that?).

I run a 36 (with 11-36), and if anything I'd want slightly more on the top end, primarily for riding on the road to the trails admittedly. So there's the spectrum covered!

Does the Epic Evo not come with an 11-36 cassette though?

how do you fit a bash-ring to that?

You don't? Not everyone feels the need. Looks like the ring replaces the spider on the cranks.

speaker2animals - Yep an Epic evo, Ive replaced the Command post with a Thomson, command post is in garage doing not alot. I changed it due to the weight. Plus a few other bits. Gold handle bar are a BIT much. Crashed with carbon bars and these has to replace.

mafiafish - 32x36 - super spinny - im sure you cant get much speed with that.

Njee20 - No it came with a SLX 11-34 but replaced it with a XT so to have the Alu SPider not rip sheds in to the freehub. AND thanks for 'your' help with advice with 1x10.

On my first ride I got to 30mph down a road. heh why would I want to go faster on a mtb bike? road bike is for road....

ahwiles - bash ring? I had never bent my 39T that it replaced. so no need for a 34t. and yes Njee the X0 has a removable spider. http://www.homebrewedcomponents.com/ has a very good calculator to determin what I needed.

No it came with a SLX 11-34

The ones we had [i]definitely[/i] came with an 11-36, strange! Personally I'd recommend changing to an 11-36 when yours wears out, no reason not to, you get a wider range with little difference in gaps, otherwise you may as well save some weight and run 9 speed.

You're welcome for the advice, glad it's worked out. I'm really happy with the change still.

umm it may of to be honest, It was last year. Have you ever ridden an Evo? what do you think of it. Although im using it as a bike for all dutys, trail, and racing. Obviously not 100% suited to that but its still fun.

Manged a 12 hour enduro which was a blast.

Not properly, had a little spin on one and a friend has one. I like the Evo bikes as a concept, and everyone seems to like the Epic particularly.

Edit:

yes Njee the X0 has a removable spider

That's neat, although can you not just use 120mm rings?

SRAM chainsets has a weird BCD of 120bcd and couldnt get any rings for it.
Now please dont post a link up or I WILL CRY.

re reading your post - Yes I could of got a 120bcd from the same site but liked the look for the full ring without the spider.

You don't?

i do.

and what happens when the chain has dropped off the bottom, and you pedal 3/4 backwards to set yourself up for a corner*.

(*a left-hander, if the pedal position above is anything to go by)

With a ring specifically designed to be run singly (eg no gates and deep teeth) isn't chain dropping reduced? Aren't some of the chain dropping issues caused because people tend to use one of the multi gear rigs that come on their bikes, which are designed to aid chain shifting?

Just a thought.

"isn't chain dropping reduced?"

Folk seem to have different experiences. I have an E13 Hive (top device only) on my HT, and the number of times the chain comes off the bottom of the chain ring and snarls up the device is enough to be annoying.

There is scope to shorten my chain some more, so I'll try that next. Failing that I'll get one of those Superstar Plasma jobbies with the top and bottom device.

I agree 1x10 is the way forward. I upgraded my SS evil around six months ago and I have never fell short of gears, and I love less clutter on the bars.

If I went to a shop and ordered a bike built to my own specifications, I have often thought that I just don't need many gears. I need some, but I generally don't ever get out of that big one at the front, but I do need something to help with climbing because of my knees. Looks like a great solution.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=58726
Cheaper than the Superstar Plasma and comes with bashguard

1x10 is not the way forward.

Running out of gears downhill, and uphill, is stupid.

Running out of gears downhill, and uphill, is stupid.

i've ben using 1x10 in the alps since april - up and downhill. honestly never run out of gears to the extent that i've wanted to go back to 2 or 3x10.

i added a blackspire stinger after a while, as the chain dropped off the bottom quite a bit, and was annoying. superstar guide for the top has been fine.

probably isn't for everyone, and if i didn't live in the alps, where its either up or down, with little flat, i may well have 2x10.

Strange, I'm running 2x9 22-32 and 11-32 and regularly run out of gears up and downhill.

11-36 cassette gives a massive range.. with a single ring at the front..

some of the gearing on bikes now is ridiculous -- i mean a 22 chaining and 34/36 rear sprockets... if it is that steep you would be better off walking...

i mean a 22 chaining and 34/36 rear sprockets... if it is that steep you would be better off walking.

If it's that steep I reckon you'd need ropes

If you run out of gears with a 2x10, both up and down hill can only mean you lack strength and leg speed.

Sorry, I don't know why I wrote up, I just meant down 😆

1x10 is great... Unless you're riding places where you've regularly got very steep climbs that last a long time, or you do a lot of road commuting to get to your trails, it works perfectly for a lot of people.

My only issue is now I've had 1x10 (32T with 11-36) for a few months, in the last 2 weeks the chain has suddenly decided it wants to come off and jam inside the Superstar XCR chainguide I'm using. Annoying at best, but bloody infuriating when it happened twice in one lap at SITS yesterday, when I was on for a quick lap!

Flow - Im guess your Flowmtb, HI stayed with you guys last and this year - Superb DH! 🙂 but I would hesitate to keep 1x10 if in the Alps doing XC. But for the south trails, Wales and a few races I do I hope its perfect. Ive only done 1 ride so only time will tell.

One of the main reasons why I did this is because cost. new chainrings for an XO chainset is just Ridiculous and didnt want to downgrade another component. The crank is stupid light.

2nd reason I want stronger legs, although im sure a 11/36 cassette will help.

1 x 9 here on a Heckler. 11-34 & a 34 ring. Been using a MRP Lopes guide and it has been spot on.

I run a 32 front and 12x36 cassette on my 180 bike. I use this all week long doing big alpine climbs and full on DH runs and to be honest except for the odd super steep bit of climb when i'm shot, i have found it perfect.

Also running the mech low in the gears on the descents means the mech is tucked in and less likely to get hit by rocks and go in your spokes. and other than a fast road descent i havent run out of gears.

I use as imple chain device up ront (shimano's clutch mech should get rid of this) and I dont hit the chainring as it is small enough at 32.

however all this is about to change, Next year we will be helping a company launch a small and lightweight gear box... stay tooned!!!

i think it is totally dependant on what you want to get out of you riding and were you live.Im not messing about with multiple rings next year on my race bike,on my training bike i probley will stick with 2x10spd

1 x 9 works for me.

32t chainring & 11-34 cassette

Did a 23 mile route on the N. Yorks Moors yesterday, 2200ft of climbing, 900 ft in one 5 mile stretch.

I only walked the most technical stuff that most riders would walk anyway

I rarely spin out on this set up, but when I do it's about 30mph at ~120rpm

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I do have 3x7spd, & 3x9spd bikes & will also have a 3x10spd bike soon too

1x whatever spd is just another bike to have fun on, there is no right or wrong IMHO

I really wish I had gone 1x10 on my C456. I ended up buying loads of new 9 speed stuff and have had horrendous problems with the front shifting.

+not having the granny would make me MTFU on climbs.

Very distinctive bike - will have to look out for you on the hills. If you see someone on a carbon 456 with a black and spaniel say hi 🙂

hmmm, thinking about switching on my new bike to 2x10 (12-36 on the back and i guess 22-33 on the front). don't seem to use the top gear at all really unless on the road!

Whats the thoughts on that set up? Or do i need to man up and go all the way to 1x10!

That chain device and bash linked to above at CRC is £110 normally! I have never understood why chain devices cost so much. That is more than my entire set of mechs and shifters and cassette cost me!

All they are is some aluminium plate and some plastic guides. Even £40 seems steep for what they are.

no probs with 1 x 9 here. 34 tooth Renthal x 11 - 34 XT cassette. Superstar XCR guide. Loving it... I do not run out of gears on the trail, only on the road when trying to slip cars. 😳

I think the width of the Renthal ring has a lot to do with the chain staying put, mind.

Rob, how wide is the Renthal?

Been thinking I might be better off trying a different chainring, currently got a Gusset 32T ring which is pretty wide, but maybe I could do with wider still?

Not for me it isn't 😆

mafiafish - 32x36 - super spinny - im sure you cant get much speed with that.

I only run out of speed downhill on fireroad or on tarmac which doesn't really bother me and lets me climb any trail I wouldn't be better off walking (unless it's very long but that's more down to fitness really which should improve). I've raced DH XC (light-heartedly) and enduros on that gearing and it's been fine. Only thing that is wrong is that I would definitely take the weight penalty of a full chain device over my xcr. Chain often comes off when doing DH/ Enduros (cost me a LOT of time at Eastridge this weekend)!
I'm running a 28lbs prophet with 2.4 tyres by the way. If I was running a 25lb cross country rig with rocket rons or crossmarks I'd likely run 34.

Ive been running 1 x 9 for a few months now and must admit I love it. Not having a rear mech to worry about jamming up, cleaning, or even just that extra space on the bars is so nice.

Im on 11-32 and 32, but think I need a 36 up front, it's no good on steep downhill sections.

I've got 11-36 XT cassette with 36t Middleburn Uno on the front. It's great and, with the exception of really slippery climbs in the depth of winter, it gives me everything I need. All kept in place with an old Roox Chaindog.