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David Turner on now and the future: ‘Old is Mould’

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It’s always worth having a chat with David Turner – he’ll always have something to say, and he’s not afraid to say it. Since his bikes hold a fond spot in the heart of many a mountain biker, and there are plenty of fans who would love to own one of his Turner Burners, I was quite surprised to hear that he doesn’t look back at those old frames with much reverence. ‘Old is mould’ he said – though it’s an anti-hoarding philosophy that he applies beyond bikes.

That’s not so say he’s not proud of what he’s made in the past, but he’s more focussed on the bikes and riding that he’s doing now. Which means the Cyclosys gravel bike and the Nitrous hardtail – which David reckons is a downcountry bike.

If you want to know what might come next from David Turner, you need to know where he’s riding, since it’s the need he sees before him that drives what he makes next. Luckily for us, he seems fighting fit and full of energy, so there should be more ideas in the pipeline. He doesn’t dismiss the idea of another full suspension bike, but right now he’s happy with his hardtail. Will we have to wait until he’s knees get creaky for a full bounce bike?

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  • rickon
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    I wish he’d go back to making DW-Link bikes, getting rid of the awful bushing system that adding friction at the start of riding, and then adding play when it had ‘bedded-in’. It was like an advocado, and most of the time I missed the ripeness period!

    Make a new 5-Spot and a Flux!

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    My latest Czar was on bearings (they moved away from Bushes around 2007) and the original bearings are 5000 miles old – it’s running a dream even now. The old bush version was okay but did need a bit of messing about with every now and again.

    DW-Link is still the absolute sweet spot for me.

    I’m also running a Nitrous in rigid guise – It’s a fantastic ride.

    These bikes are keepers – I never sell my Turners.

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    Yeah, I feel like I should have kept my Flux – but it’s rose tinted specs. It was 26, short, steep, slack seat angle. A new version would be amazing.

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    Got a full set of main pivots for Mrs Wachowchows 2006 HL 5-Spot a couple of weeks ago direct from David. Great guy / Company to deal with. Making only what he wants to ride will hopefully mean that everything he makes he is fully passionate about and invested in.

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    Great vid – I used to have a Turner Rail, was a great little bike 15yrs ago, but I’m sure I’m looking at it with rose tinned specs and it’d ride like a dog in comparison to modern bikes.

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    Moved away from bushes 2017 I mean!

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    I’m riding a Flux v4.0. I got a good deal buying the frame direct 3 years ago and built it up with all my favourite bits. I didn’t even get badly clobbered on import tax.

    I’m sure a more 29’er, longer, lower, slacker bike would make me a better person but the Flux still rides really nicely for what I do.

    Treated it to a new BB, just yesterday.

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    I swapped a couple of messages with him on Facebook, when my 2010 5Spot developed a hairline crack in the seat-tube brace. His advice was to retire it, on the basis that most new, modern geometry MTBs are far better than what i had, and it wasn’t worth trying to repair.

    I’m still riding it of course… waiting for the day the crack reaches the other end of the weld…

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