Is This The Original Hi Flow No Clog Valve?

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When Reserve Wheels launched their new Fillmore valves last week, you lot got quite worked up. Were they solving a problem that doesn’t exist? What’s a reasonable price for progress? How much?! And other comments… One of those comments was that UK company 76 Projects had already beaten Reserve to it, with a Hi Flow No Clog valve of their own.

Perhaps kicking themselves that they didn’t make a song and dance about it with their own slick PR machine, 76 Projects has been in touch to highlight their own Hi Flow No Clog Valve (that’s their actual name, not the advertising tag line used for the Fillmore). Solving the same perceived problems but via a different technical solution, let’s have a closer look at the ‘Original’ Hi Flow No Clog Valves.

Whereas the Fillmore valves claimed 3 times as much airflow, the Hi Flow No Clogs claim 4x as much. More is better, right? As with the Fillmore valves, you can inject the sealant through the valve core, but with the 76 Projects version they do say they recommend you put sealants with particles in directly into the tyre.

The 76 Projects Hi Flow No Clog Valves are a similar price to many other standard tubeless valves, at £24.50 a pair. If you’ve got a screw on pump valve then you’ll need a little adapter at £7.50 – these valves are only compatible with a push on pump.

Whereas the Reserve valve has its seal at the bottom of the stem, inside the rim, the Hi Flow No Clog has the seal inside the stem, more like a traditional Presta valve. While both claim to be compatible with tyre inserts, the 76 Projects version won’t require the valve to physically move and push up against the insert, so it’ll be interesting to see how this performance compares.

The Hi Flow No Clog valves come supplied with spacers to allow fitting to different rim heights, as well as coming in a range of lengths, meaning there’s more compatibility across rims than the Fillmore, which is restricted to rims 18mm and 28mm deep:

  • Size 1 – 15-35mm rim heights
  • Size 2 – 30-50mm rim heights
  • Size 3 – 45-65mm rim heights

Should you need to, the 76 Projects valves are completely rebuildable for cleaning. They also come in a choice of pink or black.

What do you think? Is the existence of these valves proof that the clogging issue really does exist (what sealant are you non-cloggers using?!)? Why are these valves about the same price as other valves and not £40? Is the need for an adapter for a screw on pump an issue? Do you care at all, and you’re quite happy with your Dunlop valves, thank you very much?

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  • Is This The Original Hi Flow No Clog Valve?
  • Premier Icon stingmered
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    If it works… why buy the reserves then?

    Could I buy the adapter on its own? It’s only happened once but Leyzene pump unscrewing the valve core… total PITA.

    Premier Icon alan1977
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    Am i the only person that has always put sealant in through their valves?

    Premier Icon nixie
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    No I do as well with the core removed.

    Premier Icon ballsofcottonwool
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    About time MTBs moved to Schrader valves. Presta is a relic of skinny road rims.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    Goddammit, if I don’t get credited for my comment how can I try to claim commission from 76Projects?!?

    Premier Icon marko
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    About time MTBs moved to Schrader valves. Presta is a relic of skinny road rims.

    Is the correct answer.

    Premier Icon thols2
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    About time MTBs moved to Schrader valves. Presta is a relic of skinny road rims.

    I was expecting to see this image to launch the thread.

    Premier Icon DickBarton
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    Nah, I’ve had far fewer issues with Presta valves than Schrader, happy to keep using presta as it works very well.

    However, each to their own, choice is good but presta works very well for me.

    Premier Icon thols2
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    Whereas the Fillmore valves claimed 3 times as much airflow, the Hi Flow No Clogs claim 4x as much.

    Premier Icon b33k34
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    Note that both these and the Reserve valves are aluminium stems (whereas most *standard* tubeless valves are steel?). I rode with someone who’d paid a load for Peatys tubeless valves that both snapped. Theres not a lot of material on a valve stem they get yanked about quite a lot by pumps being put on and off.

    Premier Icon overend
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    Clogged valves drive me nuts; causes trouble doing the simplest task of pumping up a tyre and going for a ride. Waz that about and how can a bike be sidelined by the smallest most ridiculous component on it?

    Premier Icon Hatter
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    Is This The Original Hi Flow No Clog Valve?

    Nope and neither are Reserve, Peatys or Muc-Off

    miKit were, launched in 2015, still the most innovative design IMHO.

    Premier Icon Josh
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    Bring back the Dunlop valve I say.

    Premier Icon Superficial
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    About time MTBs moved to Schrader valves. Presta is a relic of skinny road rims.

    I used Schraeder tubes for years, then one day I bought some new wheels which were presta only, and I noticed that I was the only one of my riding buddies still using Schraeder valves. I don’t remember there being any discussion, it just… happened.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    miKit were, launched in 2015, still the most innovative design IMHO.

    You’re half right there. They are no clog, but still have a core you have to remove if you really want to fire air in

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    Is This The Original Hi Flow No Clog Valve?

    Nope and neither are Reserve, Peatys or Muc-Off

    miKit were, launched in 2015, still the most innovative design IMHO.

    Milkit are neither high flow nor no clog

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Had an issue once back in the day when a Schrader valve had filled with mud rendering it inoperable.

    Premier Icon Nobeerinthefridge
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    I bought schraeder tubeless valves last year, still to fit them as drilling out my rims just keeps dropping off the to do list.

    One day.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    Had an issue once back in the day when a Schrader valve had filled with mud rendering it inoperable

    Somebody will hopefully come up with some kind of valve lid®️ to help stop that from happening

    Premier Icon Sharky
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    Had an issue once back in the day when a Schrader valve had filled with mud rendering it inoperable.

    You should alert the automotive industry, before someone else suffers the same grisly fate.

    Premier Icon jordan
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    I like the thingy at the bottom to keep inserts out of the way!

    Premier Icon Klunk
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    hi flow is any without the valve, just need to be fast with your thumb.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Shame about the pump compatibility- obviously you can work around that but there’s times when you end up borrowing a pump. Have to admit I don’t understand it, they have a thread, so what is it that stops a thread-on pump from working?

    Premier Icon mashr
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    Agreed, was considering getting them but a pump situation that requires a small adapter always ends in trouble sooner or later

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Is this a problem which really exists, I remove the presta core, pour in sealant, replace core then use a compressor to inflate the tyre which will completely clean out the valve.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    The fact that your routine involves use of a compressor implies that it may well be an issue

    Premier Icon cheers_drive
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    so what is it that stops a thread-on pump from working?

    Because the design uses a hollow core the brass nut at the end is much larger in diameter than a presta one. The larger nut does not fit far enough inside most screw on heads heads hance the need for the adapter. Because push-on heads compress on to the valves there is enough clearance.

    Rob – 76 Projects

    Premier Icon superstarcomponents
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    Ashima had basically these on sale at Taipei bike show 4 years ago. I almost bought a load to sell under SuperstarComponents. Everything has been done before, don’t believe the hype.

    Neil SuperstarComponents

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    I’m sure lots of products exist or have been shown at shows but if you can’t actually buy them it’s not very relevant is it?

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    Neil SuperstarComponents

    Must be the PR department, can you put me through to the warranty department?

    Premier Icon billoddie
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    These are really looking for a problem that doesn’t really exist!

    Assuming setting up new tyres is not an issue from a blockage stand point, when changing tyres…

    1) Remove old tyre and sealant
    2) Clean up rim
    3) Remove valve core and clean off any dried sealant
    4) Visually inspect valve stem, maybe poke an old spoke through if it looks a bit gummed up.
    5) Mount new tyre
    6) Inflate dry to seat
    7) Deflate
    8) Add sealant and refit valve core
    9) Reinflate
    10) Have a beer…

    Premier Icon DickBarton
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    When adding the sealant (and inflating, make sure valve isn’t sitting at the very bottom of the wheel, otherwise the sealant just pools and will help block. Make sure wheel is positioned so the valve is sitting at about 4 or 8 o’clock then the sealant goes in and away from sitting at the valve.

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