How much don Simon?

Tokina 11 – 16

I used to have a 50mm f1.4 on my film camera. It was absolutely fantastic. Coupled with 6400 ISO black and white film it opened up new worlds. Like taking pictures in moonlight or street-light for some great effects.. brill 🙂

my subjects often move unpredictably

Isn't that an argument FOR using a fast lens like the 50mm?

Large aperture = more light = faster autofocus?

Isn't that an argument FOR using a fast lens like the 50mm?

Large aperture = more light = faster autofocus?

also = tiny depth of field and unless the whole shebang is damn fast it'll have moved out of focus in a split second.

If something's a long way off the narrow DOF isn't a problem is it?

If something's a long way off the narrow DOF isn't a problem is it?

but unless it's really big it'll look small 🙁

Yeah but you don't have to use the max aperture though.

If you shoot at say f/8, I believe it still does the focussing at max aperture then stops down for the actual exposure.

So all other thinfs being equal a f1.8 should autofocus faster or at least more reliably than a kit lens, because it has much more light to calculate the focus from.

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8

I tend to just re-compose and then stitch at home, but that's a slight problem with moving targets unless you're really planning it well! 😀

rOcKeTdOg – Member

How much don Simon?

Just got in, I'm in Spain so it'll cost a fortune in P&P, second I think I have a sale here, sorry.

get a decent "L" lens. Firstly you won't regret it. Secondly, if you do regret it, you'll get most of your money back when selling second hand.

there is NO substitute for good glass and good glass always holds its value.

The nifty fifty is a sound (and very modest) investment for a beginner. Mine is on the camera more than anything and seems to produce brilliant pics despite me being really quite rubbish!!

Have a look here for cheeeeeeeeep lenses.
And here for secondhand sutff.

get a decent "L" lens. Firstly you won't regret it. Secondly, if you do regret it, you'll get most of your money back when selling second hand.

does this have anything to do with the original post?

there is NO substitute for good glass and good glass always holds its value.

Disagree. You can get a stunning photo using a glass marble (or pinhole) and dull tat using some expensive bling 🙂

don – they're not cheeeeeeep – they have the nift fifty for nearly £80, I've seen it as low as 60.

Where? links?

Cant remember off the top of my head, will see if I bookmarked them at home for you.

Kerso (who runs flash camera) will do MUCH better prices away from Ebay. He operates on many phot forums and is consistently rated as a good seller, I've had two lenses off him. He'll even provide UK receipts for cashback claims if canon are running offers.