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skiboy - Member

On my home tonight around 5:45pm, some idiot with his mates had a swing at me?,(easily blocked as I expected it because of his posture)

I live in milton keynes and ride the redways to and from work as i have done for around 10 yrs..only ever had a couple of incidents, 1 spitting and 1 hardman event !!! nothing worth mentioning,

but tonight, this guy was trying,

what would you do?

A: Ignore the **** and ride on.(after all their were four of them)

B: Take 'em to f-kin cleaners. (after all there were four of them)

C: laugh to yourself and enjoy the knowlegde that Karma will deal the blow
for you.

D: Re-pack the "winter batton" into your camelback

E: Phone the rozzers (and wait four hours for them)

I choose a combo.

Posted 2 years ago #
jackal - Member

I choose a combo.

Jab, right hook, left cross, uppercut...
That sort of thing?

Posted 2 years ago #
skiboy - Member

I should add, I was just riding past them, although i had noticed the **** in the hood positioning himself as i approached.

I should also add, last year i had a spanish man break into the apartment bedroom my 1 yr old daughter was in. (330am in gran canaria).

i found his head had a strange magnetic effect with masonry !! he got option B..

Posted 2 years ago #
flippinheckler - Member

You did the right thing carring on and not tackling them, one or all of them could have had knives, the scumbag is probably a big coward on his own, as tempting as it is to stop and smack him one, I would report it in case they have attacked others.

Posted 2 years ago #
jonb - Member

Spanish man would get option B. I can't imagine anyone who would do another option with their child in the room.

With your first lot I'd say A. There are 4 of them, one of you. They are prepared to start a fight with a random therefore they are either, insane, good fighters (4 people are always going to be better than one unless you're Bruce Lee), carrying a weapon or a mixture of all the above. Classic examples of people to avoid fights with.

And E phone the police. Give a description. The one occasion I've reported something like this they were very helpful, turned up quickly etc.

Posted 2 years ago #
Smee - Blocked

Spanish bloke would get as many Bs as WCA used in the run up to BBB.

Posted 2 years ago #
allthepies - Member

They're all up for it when in a group, bet they're not the hard men when on their tod.

Posted 2 years ago #
grantway - Member

Best thing to carry on but next time be prepared
Make sure bikes insured.

Just put an hammer in your camelbak just incase and
if you see them then get it out and lay it across the top
of the handle bars.
Just incase but I take its a normal journey so just maybe chancers
you may not see these again.

Posted 2 years ago #
skiboy - Member

i have to agree , never fight a battle if your not sure of the outcome, i did stop and take a look back, but i am aware in doing so any tatical advantage is given up, just wanted to know exactly wot the muppet looked like just in case i see him again. by himself..lol..best bit about spanish bloke was going to the court in maspolamas 4 days later and seeing that he was still wearing the same blood stained clothes, still had a swollen face and brow and he couldn't stand properly, all that and he got banged up to boot

Posted 2 years ago #
user-removed - Member

Back in my uni days I was cycling back from the pub on the pavement (BURN HIM!!!!11!) and noticed three neds in the bus shelter. As I went by, one of them stepped forward and poked me in the eye with a long twig.

I was properly blinded for a mo and could only see white flashing lights. Once I'd got my head out of my hands, I asked the guy what the hell he thought he was doing. He laughed and tried to whip my face with the twig, so I stepped forward and belted him (self defence, likesay).

He knelt down and watched lots of blood streaming from his nose (lucky punch?). His mates just stood there watching him and said nothing. I'm not a big guy, or even remotely hard, so I suspect they just thought their mate was a ****tt of the first order. Got back on my bike and went home....

Posted 2 years ago #
Filthy - Member

I prefer option F..

Look really hard so they dont want to have a go in the first place, obviously helps if you are over 6ft tall with a menacing expression. However if it happened to me I'd probably take option A only to avoid a criminal record.

Posted 2 years ago #
gazman - Member

another option arrange for 3 or 4 buddies to be positioned close by and knock **** out of them especially if its dark they wont recognise you, **** scumbags

Posted 2 years ago #
sharki - Member

I used to just block, then laugh at them as they got taken away by doormen.

Have never been in the position away from a bust place, if i had been once you've blocked then make the first one count.

Then warn the others to back off..

Always a difficult one to comment on without being there and seeing the others....easiest thing to do is to ride off, but they need an education in not picking on complete strangers......

Posted 2 years ago #
scraprider - Member

never one to back away ,but be safe mate , 4 of em ,knock the twot out, and ride like ****

Posted 2 years ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

I have had a couple of "near misses" in this sort of situation. What I have taken to doing is carrying my D lock looped over the bars of the bike. That makes it a "weapon of opportunity" to be used in self defence. Still dodgy legally and as I found out to my horror / shame having it there makes you more likely to use it ( I dented a van whos driver road raged me / tried to knock me off the bike with the lock)

Given any sort of choice tho I would always ride on by. Not for fear of knives or any of that - but just to make my life easier.

I have intervened in street / pub fights to prevent someone getting hurt and would do again. But if I can avoid confrontation it I will

Posted 2 years ago #
lyons - Member

hmm, walk away from it mate... I know its tempting to retaliate, but is it worth it? I dont care how good you are at karate, boxing or anything, if someone has a knive, or you are outnumbered, you really havent got much of a chance of getting away with no injury. Even if you did come of better, then you are as likely as they are to recieve a criminal record.

I had a confrontation a while back, and i occasionally still think, i should really have 'taught him a lesson', but we were outnumbered, and the little sh1t was carrying a bottle. So yeah, i'm quite confident i would have still come off better, but i might not have.

Ive dont a fair bit of 'martial arts' training, and every guy who has taught me said it's best to walk away if you can. I haven't regretted doing that yet.

Posted 2 years ago #
whosthedaddy - Member

This type of thing happened to me a couple of months ago too.

I knew the fu3kers though and they reconized me when I took the helmet off.So I just faced up, but then made a tactical withdrawl, got back to the house, quick change and grabed 'Bob', my equalizer and went chapping.

Never got them that night but over the next few nights

Fannies, the oldest was 18, youngest 15.

Posted 2 years ago #
the fettler - Member

defo best to walk away,then stalk him ,fine him later on a dark street. on the back of a motorbike with pickax handle,jump off break left leg
works for me

Posted 2 years ago #
pcb - Member

With any luck you'll see him on his own and you can give him option B.

But you did do the right thing 4 against 1 is bad odds.

Posted 2 years ago #
zokes - Member

How do you lot get in so many fights? The last fight I was in was at school over 12 years ago.

I don't particularly avoid areas where you might end up in a confrontation, can be quite gobby and obnoxious at times, and whilst 6' tall, i'm hardly a scary prospect...

Just wondering like...

Posted 2 years ago #
esselgruntfuttock - Member

How about a small can of WD40 in your pocket, legal to carry, easily accessible, they won't know what it is when you point it at them.

Posted 2 years ago #
devs - Member

I've had a pikey swing a plank of wood at me but stop mid swing when I said "How ya doing?" of all things and also some kids jumped a fence to have a pop at us last week in front of their pals. The thing is I am one of the bigger scarier looking members of society and Dave behind was even bigger! Ned's face went from mischief to fear very quick when he got close and realised. I stand up on the pedals and look them right in the eye and this has been enough to get them to back off so far. I quite like a ruck though so I wouldn't be too bothered if they didn't but 4 would be a challenge right enough.
Not sure I'd have duffed up Spanish bloke unless he refused to leave immediately. I'd be more concerned with just getting him out and away from my family.

Posted 2 years ago #
Daffy - Member

In any situation like this, I'm forced to ask...."What would Ton do?"

Posted 2 years ago #
shoefiti - Member

I probably would have given the Spanish guy a whooping, maybe more so if he was Italian thou, i've seen the way they look at women (not to be trusted) It'd probably been far worse for them if they were Welsh thou, as i wouldn't of had a clue what they were on about, which makes me really angry. Have I left anyone out?

Posted 2 years ago #
Jamie - Member

Daffy:
In any situation like this, I'm forced to ask...."What would Ton do?"

Im going to take a punt on something violent.

Posted 2 years ago #
samuri - Member

I had a similar incident the other night....

http://www.samuri.co.uk/2009/10/16/ride-entry-16th-october-2009/

Forestall them, show them you mean business. As you say, they're cowards and will back down when confronted. I'll always walk away from a fight nowadays rather than get into one if I can.

Posted 2 years ago #
samuri - Member

How do you lot get in so many fights? The last fight I was in was at school over 12 years ago.

I don't particularly avoid areas where you might end up in a confrontation, can be quite gobby and obnoxious at times, and whilst 6' tall, i'm hardly a scary prospect...

Just wondering like...

Ride over to Leigh, you'll be in a fight within the hour.

Posted 2 years ago #
ski - Member

I think taking on 4 while stopping your bike getting nicked all at the same time would be a challenge even for Bruce.

Only real option is to ride on, it gives you more options and if you feel strongly enough about it report it latter.

Posted 2 years ago #
s8tannorm - Member

I'm liking the WD40 idea ... think I'd back it up with a lighter though

Posted 2 years ago #
Jamie - Member

In a similar situation i would just ride off. You may even get the upper hand on 3 of them but then the fourth nicks your bike or punches you in the back of the head. Neither being pleasant.

Unfortunately some people are just **** and will always be ****.

Posted 2 years ago #
zokes - Member

Ride over to Leigh, you'll be in a fight within the hour.

From reading your blog, and remembering what you said about the place on that ride a couple of years back, I can well believe it! This is why I convinced the Mrs to move to Belmont and commute to Wigan, rather than 'this lovely house in Leigh' that she'd seen on the internets...

Posted 2 years ago #
MrNutt - Member

is this another "what forks for milton keynes?" thread?

Posted 2 years ago #
BigDummy - Member

Just put an hammer in your camelbak just incase and
if you see them then get it out and lay it across the top
of the handle bars.

This is a brilliant suggestion. Practical, proportionnate and realistic.

Posted 2 years ago #
Olly - Member

Posted 2 years ago #
Olly - Member

water pistol loaded with vinegar/piss/petrol?

good for dogs and chavs?

Posted 2 years ago #