Seriously, get that massive chip off your shoulder.

Mine is only there to make it more comforable to stand on me. It is also heavy so it help keep me on my knees as well.

Wine…olives oh FFS the intelegensia are here already

more pinot, Junkers ??

Flyovers you say? This is always a favourite oif mine – originally built as a flyover over the M8. However there was no road for it to connect to at either end – built int eh wrong place? 30 years on it had office built on it

There wre a couple more example of the bridge to nowhere on hat stretch of the M8 – weird

Your Bow Flyover lacks aspiration. If it stopped bloody whining and spending all its money on union dues and copies of the Socialist Worker it could better itself until it was like this:

What, some nasty soulless monstrosity in the midst of a mess of incongruent thoughtlessness?

Behave. Bow Flyover possess an elegance, a refinement of character, a modesty of it’s creed your horrible example could never hope to achieve.

Begone, philistine, lest I set the dogs of decorum upon you.

Have we had any pictures of the Westway yet?

It’s my second favourite ever, because of this lot:
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This one’s my toppermost of the poppermost though,
laydeez an gennelmen, I give you the Mancunian Way:

It’s a bit like the London ones, though not paved with gold, obviously.

does it go well with chips and help get rid of the bitter taste of envy?

TandemJeremy – Member
Flyovers you say? This is always a favourite oif mine – originally built as a flyover over the M8. However there was no road for it to connect to at either end – built int eh wrong place? 30 years on it had office built on it

There wre a couple more example of the bridge to nowhere on hat stretch of the M8 – weird

That part of the M8 always makes me think that I am driving in some sort of racing arcade game for some reason.

Rusty; that Clash video is from RAR in Victoria Park, East London. My old building is visible in the background (middle tower block of three).

Of course, along the Westway, you’ve got yer Trellick Tower, in’t yer? Erno Goldfinger building. It’s sister one, Balfron Tower, is about 200m away from where I’m sitting.

I quite like a bit of post war concrete modernism, as long as it’s well designed.
Awful to live in mind, but very beautiful in a mournful kind of way.

Elf, my mum was one of the first people to move into Hulme:

As a young woman she thought it was wonderful – clean, bright & spacious, with heating, lighting and hot water on demand. Some flats even came with a garage! It was a very aspirational place to live at first.
Can you imagine how wonderful and futuristic this seemed to people who’d been living in recently condemned Victorian terraces?

Sadly, they were very badly designed and built – the open terraces and concealed stairwells encouraged crime and they were dangerously thrown together with substandard materials.

When I went to college there in the 80’s it was turning into a bit of a wasteland.

You live and learn, eh?
Hulme is lovely now, rebuilt using lessons learned from the past, but did they have to knock down all the decent pubs as well?

this is my most favourite thread ever since yesterday!

Can’t find a piccy, but that pair that dead end in mid air in central Glasgow were a source of amusement to me as a nipper.

Rusty – I remember the crescents – but the pubs – decent? I thought the old on in the centre was still there but it used to be the sort of place where it went silent and everyone stared when you walked in

I lived in Old Trafford and Whalley Range thru the 80s but I had friends in the crescents.

Yeah, we’ve got the Beautiful Robin Hood Gardens by me:

That’s Balfron in the background.

Lovely. Right by the Blackwall Tunnel, so ‘close to transport links’. 😕

I did hear tell of a flat in Balfron going for over a million quid, but I think that might be just a myth. I do have it on good authority that one went for over £600,000 a couple of years ago mind, but that was at the height of the property madness. Again, unsubstantiated. But a flat in the block will set you back a large sum, for what is essentially an ex council flat. Grade 2 listed building. Crazy. Flats in Trellick sell for crazy prices I know.

Airtragic – search for “bridge to nowhere glasgow” I posted the one that now has offices on it

TJ, I think it might have been the stupidity of youth that saved us. 😀

Went to college at Loreto, just down the road from the Sir Henry Royce (above) and just before this one:

Used to go to gigs at the PSV/Russel club:

I remember it as a pretty safe area back then, before the guns and the violence moved in just down the road 🙁

Hulme is lovely now, rebuilt using lessons learned from the past, but did they have to knock down all the decent pubs as well?

Ah the old Henry, spent a few Interesring nights in there, and the russell club further down
Memorys of a misspent youth ‘sigh’
The bullrings are a nice grassy hill next to hattersly now

Ooh that Sir Henry Royce looks an ‘interesting’ boozer…

What about pubs built in to housing estates?

Not been into the Callaghans yet. Funny, that…

We got it all round here…

Niiiice. A mate owns a flat in the block behind. Rents it out for a ridiculous sum (5 mins walk from canary Wharf, view of the River).

Ah the old Henry, spent a few Interesring nights in there, and the russell club further down

Remember that the Henry used to have a stripper on every lunchtime?
And that it was right next to the Church of the Ascension? 😀

Remember the ‘Save Viraj Mendis’ campaign?
Just checked my spelling with wiki, only to learn that Father John Methuen has died. He was a decent man who stood up for what was right. He’ll be missed.

but very beautiful in a mournful kind of way

I kind of know what you mean. That’s a really good way of putting it. Many folk (speshly on here) think I’m mental to live where I do, and praps they’re right, but I’m really quite fond of the bleak desperation of such places. I spose growing up in them lends a certain nostalgic affection.

It’s funny; stick me in a lovely rural or wilderness setting, and I’m like ‘it’s nice, but I’m bored now’. I feel myself having to ‘enjoy’ the experience through a sense of duty, rather than ever truly loving it. Mountains and that? Yeah, nice, it’s a lump of rock. But give me an urban environment, and I’m well away.

‘Perverse’ wouldn’t be an unfair comment…

this is my most favourite thread ever since yesterday!

Stick around Kev; it can only get better.

The PSV/russel club was legend, had some great times in there
Anyone remember the mayflower club

Seen loads of top bands here, nocking 30 years ago mind 😳

Remember that the Henry used to have a stripper on every lunchtime
Oh yes! With fag ends stuck on her arse! 😆

I live in the countryside(ish) now, and quite like it.
But back then I wouldn’t have swapped places with anyone.

It was loud, dirty, brash, mixed up and exciting.
And cheap. That was important too.

Oh, and TJ, we’ve got one of those ‘roads to nowhere’ as well 🙂 :
Remember this one?

Khani, never made it to the Mayflower – Belle Vue way wasn’t it?
Bit too young for the Electric Circus too, sadly.

Did you ever see gigs at Cheetham Hill library?
Great venue, but sadly another area now known more for the few idiots than the happy majority.

I miss living in Manchester. You don’t get that smell anywhere else. 🙂

Can’t place that one.

I go back to Manchester to see pals every now and then – next time we will take bikes and I’ll give you guys a shout.

It’s just at the bottom of Princess Street TJ, near the UMIST building.
Hardly anyone ever notices it!

I go back to Manchester to see pals every now and then – next time we will take bikes and I’ll give you guys a shout.

You’d be more than welcome, just let us know.
D’ya think wes will join us? 🙂

Oh and sorry wes, we appear to have ruined your thread – bloody lefties eh?

Oh and sorry wes, we appear to have ruined your thread – bloody lefties eh?

Its that bloody elfs fault

Yes it was right opposite bell Vue speedway, was a great venue seen loooaaads of bands in there from the damned to the dead kennedys, went every week for ages, it was 30ish years ago so it’s all gone now but it was at the heart of the Manchester punk scene for ages, marvellous place it was

Its that bloody elfs fault

Eh? What have I done?? 😯

Hijacked poor wes thread.

Elf the threadjacker – coming to a thread posted by you

No don’t get me wrong; I like the countryside and that, I just wouldn’t let my daughter marry one.

I spent many happy hours here. Throwing 2p coins at passing police cars, skinning up in the stairwells of the blocks, keeping warm by the burning Astras and Fiestas…

Ah, those were the days….

I miss living in Manchester. You don’t get that smell anywhere else.

That is true, I live in Essex now and on the whole it’s very nice where I live, but the waters funny and it smells different, I think it’s cos it’s not damp all the time

Khani, you might want to order a copy of this:

Kevin Cummins’ new book of Manchester music photos.

You’re probably in it 😀

Elf the threadjacker

You wear a turban Elfman ?

You’ve kept that quiet 😕

It’s where I hide me stash….

It’s where I hide me stash….

No one ever gets suspicious what’s under a turban then ?

Khani, you might want to order a copy of this:
I’ll have a look at that cheers 😀
I was one of the Manchester punks for ages, was in a couple of bands as well, used to hang round the old record shops and pubs round there all day and then to gigs and clubs later, good times 8)

Nah s’cos I’m Efnik, innit? Too scared of Perliticurl Karrotness. Or is it Particle Dungeness?

Christmas? Banned.

Is this geezer playing the “**** off – I’m ethic” card ? ………it does look a tad suspicious

You think all Efniks look ‘suspicious’, Ernie, because you’re a racist.

That is one mightily impressive turban. Can that really be hair under there?? I know Sikhs aren’t meant to cut their hair, but that can’t be for real, surely?? 😮

EDIT: No, it’s got to be loads of cloth wrapped round. Must surely be quite heavy, and place a fair bit of strain on the neck.

This thread is now officially beyond control. It’s gone, it’s gone.

You could fit a coffeshop in that 😆

Don’t remember the Oleisky’s and the Gleesons from Moston do you Khani? Had one of the very first Manchester punk bands, ‘Oblivion’ I think.

Dec Gleeson went on to be a photographer for ‘Kerrang!’
His brother Dave went on to be a very well known supplier of herbal relaxants in the area, but went funny after a bit, started believing his own hype.

The Boggiano’s (Paul and Francis) ring any bells?
Sean Holmes, Paul ‘Dings’ Rawling, Steve ‘Sos’ Brown, Dominica Cookson?

Off to bed before I get the vinyl out. Don’t think the neighbours would appreciate ‘Beasley Street’ at this time in the morning. 🙂

Best thread for ages, ta all!